December 19th, 2008, 06:08 PM | #1 |
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Anyone have a HR1 Riot or full V.A.L.E. full system from Two Bros?
I'm trying to decide on an HR1 Riot slip on...
http://www.hardrockmotorsports.com/h...0_NINJA08.html ...or a V.A.L.E.™ M-2 Complete Exhaust System... http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopp...R-FULL-08.html Can we compare/contrast? I sent kkim a PM, but I need something to occupy my time while I wait for his brain to warm up. For further consideration, I'm trying to decide on one of these, and an upgrade path for intake and jetting. Thanks all! |
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December 19th, 2008, 07:30 PM | #2 |
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Those anodized HR1 pipes look friggin sweet! The catch is that BOTH of those are going to be loud as a mother ****a! It's kind of irritating and you're bound to piss off the fuzz...
... No wait you ARE the fuzz! |
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December 19th, 2008, 07:39 PM | #4 |
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Clenzer72 was selling a HR1 Riot slip-on at a good price on another board, he may still have it.
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December 19th, 2008, 07:53 PM | #5 |
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Lol... You guys kill me. I've never been big on enforcing noise.
That said, I like the sound of both and the HR1 is adjustable. The 2bros has a silencer insert IIRC. I may be going full for the flow and no cats. I like the price of that used one though! Posted via Mobile Device |
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December 19th, 2008, 08:08 PM | #7 |
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I made the mistake of buying an HR-1 can
My opinion , OVER priced , No quality , and the ajustability they brag about isn't there . It's so loud i kept my revs under 4,000. I would stay with an A P or Yoshi if i were you |
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December 19th, 2008, 08:27 PM | #8 |
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But I like loud!
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December 19th, 2008, 08:52 PM | #9 |
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December 19th, 2008, 08:58 PM | #10 |
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give him time... let him have his fun.
after he tires of the loud exhaust ringing his ears, I predict an AP quite core in his future. Cochese... have you seen this thread? http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10209 |
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December 19th, 2008, 09:24 PM | #11 |
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Kelly, I will probably modify the jets in the carbs, and will anodize my wheels in gold, get a Corbin seat,and get a new windscreen either from Zero Gravity or someone else--and who knows what else I will do. I will, however keep the stock exhaust. I love the quiet.
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December 19th, 2008, 09:27 PM | #12 |
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Alex... yeah, but choices, that's what makes this country so great.
... but I agree, I like quiet bikes, too. Must be an age thing? |
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I can't stress enough how annoyingly loud the short pipe mufflers are. Although I heard a LOUD HD come chugging up my street earlier today so It made me feel a little less bad about the loudness of mine Now there is NO reason to have that attrociously loud a pipe. |
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December 19th, 2008, 11:23 PM | #15 | |
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Kelly, I hit up your ear plug thread! CRXTrek (Steve) has graciously sold my his HR1 I'm gonna shim for now and install that, after I paint the endcap flat black. |
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December 19th, 2008, 11:27 PM | #18 |
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December 19th, 2008, 11:45 PM | #21 |
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December 19th, 2008, 11:57 PM | #22 |
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December 20th, 2008, 12:03 AM | #23 |
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December 20th, 2008, 12:22 AM | #25 |
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December 20th, 2008, 04:43 PM | #28 | ||
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Ok, I got an email back from Area-P about buying a header directly from them to fab the HR1 to... Quote:
Only issues I see are here... (thanks for the pics kkim!) The stock manifold has a tab to put a bolt into the frame near the rear brake lever/foot peg. This is not present on the Area P header. I see this needing to be fabbed on. My only other concern is the departure angle of the header as it would feed into the Area P can not matching the angle required for the HR1. That, and the diameter of the header vs the stock manifold and whether it will fit. Any ideas? I think it's safe to assume I'm the first knuckle head to try this or at least post about it. |
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December 20th, 2008, 04:46 PM | #29 |
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I'm interested in seeing this through since, even with the cost of the used can ($100), the header ($300) and some minor welding fab at the muffler shop, ($50-100), I'm still into a full exhaust for $450-500 as opposed to the full system from any of the vendors, and it's something to call my own.
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December 20th, 2008, 04:49 PM | #30 |
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You can use a clamp ,like h-d pipes have and bolt it at the same place for support
Any muffler shop can enlarge the hr 1 to fit http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/produc...d=40306&mmyId= |
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December 20th, 2008, 04:59 PM | #31 | |
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If a Harley can do it, the Ninja probably can. I don't know much about exhaust fab. Do the use some type of spanner to widen the mouth of the HR1? |
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December 20th, 2008, 05:06 PM | #32 | |
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Most shops custom bend full car systems from straight tubing stock and they can put in any mufflers |
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December 20th, 2008, 05:06 PM | #33 |
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Do any of the clamps here look like they need to be ordered?
http://hardrockmotorsports.com/HR1_w..._products.html |
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December 20th, 2008, 05:07 PM | #34 |
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The clamp in the link i posted can be picked up at any parts store |
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December 20th, 2008, 05:21 PM | #36 |
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December 20th, 2008, 05:27 PM | #37 |
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This looks like it will make a great,LOUD,system on the cheap
Pipes look to have the same bend where it matters...by the foot peg Good luck |
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December 20th, 2008, 05:32 PM | #38 |
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The area P header flairs out at the end... I don't know if you've noticed that or not. It will not fit a muffler with a stock diameter inlet.
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December 20th, 2008, 05:35 PM | #39 |
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The HR1 needs the headpipe cut right behind the support tange at the bend and he will need the pipes massaged to fit together
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December 20th, 2008, 05:39 PM | #40 |
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Looks like its nothing $100 at the muffler shop can't knock out!
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