January 11th, 2009, 09:32 AM | #41 | |
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Excellent! Glad it worked out for you. The silicon sealant is a great idea. Since I'm not planning on riding in the rain, I won't do that right away. Maybe when I take the nose off to extend the mirrors some.
Did you burn the lights in for the required 10 minutes, once you fixed the fuse? I found out that by holding the starter button down a little bit longer, the low beam comes on and stays on. Once that surge is past, I can then turn the high beam on and off, as needed, no problems. F-Sane (http://www.f-sane.com) recommends changing the fuse for the headlights from 10A to 25A. This will prevent the fuse from blowing in the future. Most people have both lights on at the same time and this will support the initial surge of power that the ballasts use to ignite. DISCLAIMER (On my part): The wiring may not be designed to carry this much current, so I can't recommend leaving high beams on for startup purposes! Quote:
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January 11th, 2009, 12:03 PM | #42 |
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Yeah, I ride to work and it is ofter wet, so I figured why not water proof it completely
I have run the low beam in for about 15 mins, but the high beam no as it blew the fuse and I couldn't replace it with a larger one, I figured another 10A would just blow again, I will be getting that soon, just woken up down here Yeah, I was thinking about the current while starting it up on high beam and it does sound like something to be avoided due to the wiring. Well that is easy, start on low beam, if need be switch to high beam though these are so much brighter that I may not even use high during the day. |
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January 11th, 2009, 02:56 PM | #43 |
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Right, all finished. I replaced the 10A fuse with a 15A fuse and all is good
All nice and water tight as well |
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January 11th, 2009, 03:16 PM | #44 |
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Congrats Viper-Byte. I know it was an experience.
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January 12th, 2009, 04:02 PM | #45 |
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Well, the lights showed up today, hopefully I get get them in over the weekend or something if i have time. I think I should probably go get a manual too, might be a smart idea, anyone know how much they are?
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January 12th, 2009, 04:21 PM | #46 |
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Did you jump into the middle of this thread? I ask, because post #3 provides the info you seek!
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January 12th, 2009, 04:35 PM | #47 |
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My bad haha, I read it all about 3 weeks ago and never went back through all of it again. But i definatly will be when i do the install, btw thanks for the writeup.
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January 12th, 2009, 04:38 PM | #48 |
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January 12th, 2009, 06:10 PM | #49 |
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Good news for you. Hold off on the DIY. Viper-Byte has a great mod for it, assuming you received the same kit that he and I did! It should make it slightly less tedious.
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January 12th, 2009, 08:05 PM | #50 |
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Yeah what he said
Oh really? I ordered it form the same place you did, and came in the same packaging and everything...so I would assume its the same. You know when its supposed to get posted up? |
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January 12th, 2009, 08:27 PM | #51 |
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I will aim to have my write up on the install of mine tonight, in a few hours.
The only things I done differently was I used the extender things on the existing bulbs (they just pull off) and cut then down and took the inside out, works the same as the washers. I also put on some silicon sealant to full waterproof the bulbs. Also, my fuse kept blowing at 10A, I installed a 15A fuse and it will stay on no matter if the bike is started on high, or low beam. I will post the pics of my install tonight. |
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January 12th, 2009, 10:24 PM | #52 |
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Sweet, sounds good, thanks.
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January 13th, 2009, 03:52 PM | #53 |
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Right, sorry about the delay, had to make an unscheduled trip to the Hospital.
I have uploaded the main pics I took for this in my photo album here: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/album.php?albumid=29 As I have said, I used the riser that the stock bulbs come with as seen here: I pulled it off the bulb, you will need to be careful as the metal lip on the bulb is sharp The metal prongs just come out if met with a hammer I had to use a file to cut the riser down as I didn't have anything better suited, this allows the part of the HID bulb that is heatshrunk to get through, the cut in the wall it to allow the wires to get through. This is what it looks like on the HID bulbs: Then just clamp it in using the spring as normal: I often ride in the rain, and thought with cutting the rubber seals to allow the rubber seals that came with the HIDs to fit in, this will possibly allow water in, so I got some silicon sealant, with the thoughts that it will bond the two rubbers together, provide a water tight seal and be easier than glue to come off if need be. It is as simple as that. (these are only the parts that I have done differently to Sam, otherwise I used his DIY to install them ) |
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January 13th, 2009, 04:05 PM | #54 |
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You guys have got to post your impressions of the lights when riding. It may be a PITA to install, but the difference in lighting over stock is night and day.
This mod is a must do if you ride a lot at night in areas with little or no street lights. be sure to check your headlight aiming after you're done with the install. |
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January 13th, 2009, 04:12 PM | #55 |
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I didn't find it too bad to install, I just took my time and all was fine.
The difference is really amazing, I have only taken it out for a test ride at night so far and the difference is AMAZING! Not only is there more light to see with, being the colour that it is (I got 8000k), it is clearer to see. I went for a ride yesterday and while it was cloudy, I could see the lights relecting back on the signs a little I think the mod is a must do if you do any decent amount of riding at night, even during the day, they will allow the cagers to see you better than the stock lights (my impressions anyway) Yep, I have checked my aim and adjusted it accordingly. |
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January 13th, 2009, 04:22 PM | #56 |
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Viper-Byte...congrats on the mod. I hope the DIY helped you.
I went out Sunday afternoon while it was overcast. Twice people were thinking about pulling out from side streets and I just flashed the high beam. Both times they slammed on the brakes, so I know the lights "helped" them to see me. I haven't had a chance to ride at night or adjust them. Probably won't get to do this in the next few days. Looks like a possibility of snow on Wednesday, Thursday, and Sunday!! |
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January 13th, 2009, 06:05 PM | #57 |
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Thanks for the remainder of your side of the writup. looks good.
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January 14th, 2009, 07:43 PM | #58 |
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David - do you have any more pics that show the temperature a little better? I think I'm leaning towards the 8000K for the tone, but I know that the 4300K is going to be a stronger intensity.... pics of the color would help me a little bit!
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January 14th, 2009, 08:26 PM | #59 |
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I guess I should have included a before and after shots in my post.
I have not really got too many after shots, but here are some, I have put all the ones so far in the album link above, I will get more tonight for you from riders perspective. I actually think the 8000k is a very nice combination of light and colour, with the little night riding I have done so far. Daytime: |
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January 14th, 2009, 10:40 PM | #60 | |
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Quote:
The 4300K is the closest color temp as what manufactures who produce cars with HIDs use. |
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January 15th, 2009, 02:33 AM | #61 |
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As promised, here are some better pics , I feel that the 8000k is really blue while warming up, but after a few mins, IMO it is actually not all that blue.
Low beam stock: High beam stock: Low beam HIDs: High beam HIDs: (probably not the best example as I had only had the high beam on for 10 seconds before the pic, which is why it is so blue. Low beam HIDs: High beam HIDs (fully warmed up): |
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January 15th, 2009, 10:10 AM | #62 |
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Where is the bike in the last two pictures? Are you next to it or standing over it? Kind of a dumb question but just curious as to where the pattern is on the ground in relation to where you stand.
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January 15th, 2009, 10:38 AM | #63 |
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the light pattern will be where ever you aim the headlight once you adjust them.
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January 15th, 2009, 12:47 PM | #64 |
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That is me sitting on the bike as the rider would see the lights, note: my drive way goes up hill.
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January 15th, 2009, 12:51 PM | #65 |
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^^Thats what I was asking, thanks. Looks good.
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January 15th, 2009, 12:53 PM | #66 |
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January 15th, 2009, 02:27 PM | #67 |
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Thanks for the walk-throughs gentlemen. It's pretty cool when people take the time to document every step of the way for those (like me) who're getting started. Hopefully within the next couple of months I'll be able to actually put these threads into action!
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January 15th, 2009, 02:36 PM | #68 |
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Tony,
check out this thread if you need projects to keep you busy in the future. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5586 |
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January 17th, 2009, 12:59 AM | #69 |
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Hey, just curious as to where the fuse is for the lights...just in case I end up blowing one I can actually find it.
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January 17th, 2009, 01:36 AM | #70 |
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January 17th, 2009, 01:38 AM | #71 |
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Sweet, thank you!
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January 25th, 2009, 12:57 AM | #72 |
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HIDs are awesome. I wholly intend on getting some once I get some cash and take the Bike to my parents house (since I don't have any tools).
Would you recommend a service manual purchase to help with the install?
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January 25th, 2009, 01:07 AM | #73 |
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Yes, they are awesome, IMO they are worlds over the stock lights.
It is not all that hard to install them, I do not have a manual, though I have just ordered one. The only part I was not sure about was the wiring (there are only 2 connections for each light to be made and they only plug into the existing light sockets. So it is not a lot of wiring), Sam has since edited the DIY to include this, so it is fine now. I can see that you are looking at doing a few mods, if that is the case, I would suggest getting a service manual, post #3 has a link to a cheap place. |
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January 25th, 2009, 08:26 AM | #74 |
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January 25th, 2009, 10:57 AM | #75 |
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January 25th, 2009, 02:01 PM | #76 |
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Going to get started on my HID's right now!
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January 25th, 2009, 02:22 PM | #77 |
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Kelly, Could you post a pic of your bike with the 4300s? Is there any blueish tint?
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January 25th, 2009, 03:19 PM | #78 |
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Sorry, no night time pics, but the lights do have a bluish tint when compared to the stock halogen lighting. It is much like the HID headlight color on factory automotive headlights, which are 4300K. |
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January 25th, 2009, 03:34 PM | #79 |
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Thank you. I wish I could rep you. I am sold on the 4300s. But I am going to wait until it is closer to riding seaon to install them I allmost want to move somewhere warm. But I would miss snowmobiling and snowboard too much.
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January 26th, 2009, 06:53 PM | #80 |
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Here is a pic of my HID install with 6000k bulb.
Sorry got no install pics, but I do have a pic of the bulb and the spacers I used. |
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