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i waited for them each time. so i'm not sure how that would work with an accident that requires medical attention, or when you have to leave it for other reasons. it better to do research and call a couple of local towing businesses, and have their numbers on your phone. this way you know exactly how their place works in terms of fees and service. i deal with only three places locally, depending on the type of job.
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February 3rd, 2013, 11:55 AM | #82 | |
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February 3rd, 2013, 12:44 PM | #84 |
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To open the door and do anything would cost me $97 so no, they wouldn't. They said comeback on Monday and I can get them for free. Real ****ing convenient
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February 3rd, 2013, 12:45 PM | #85 |
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It's a wrecking yard. They make money off **** like this, it's their business. They're not there to be nice, or they'd lose money.
Next time make your own arrangements before the bike is towed. And have a spare key for your house, it costs like $2 |
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February 3rd, 2013, 12:48 PM | #86 | |
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And your anger over them not letting you have the keys to the bike? That's because half the assholes out there think that it's acceptable to just dump their junk off on the towing company, since the government won't enforce the laws about paying up. So, since they don't know you, and don't know if you or your insurance is going to dump the bike on them, they are justified in keeping the keys, so if they end up having to sell it to recoup their losses, they don't have to pay yet more money to get a key cut for it. |
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February 3rd, 2013, 01:53 PM | #87 |
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We don't have towing, or wrecking yards, or compounds, or boots, or clamps or payed parking or anything like that, and retaining someones property would be very illegal here.
It's rather nice It sucks you had to pay all that money to get your vehicle back from someone whom makes their living selling people back something they already own. .... And I can't help but think someone may be involved in the business themselves... |
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February 3rd, 2013, 01:57 PM | #88 |
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This is like the RIAA saying they lose trilliions of dollars due to piracy. The tow yard isn't losing money in any sense of the word "lose", unless it means that after the inflated charges get in the thousands, many people just say screw it and let the yard deal with it. It costs almost nothing to get the vehicle to the yard, costs the yard almost nothing to store it, yet the fees for those basic services are charged out at a borderline criminal markup.
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DAMNIT JIGGLES!! Had to view the post finally (w/ all these replies)... Hate to see this Jiggles, hope you the best in recovery for you and your bike. More so the bike, since I take it just your pinky hurt? If that's all that's a blessing... Be safe!!!
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February 3rd, 2013, 03:26 PM | #92 |
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February 3rd, 2013, 03:27 PM | #93 | ||
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It depends on the area, of course, but we could average around ten cars brought into the impound lot a month, and these costs get to be paid by the people who use the service. Very few people are not at fault when they have to pay, they may have gotten their vehicle impound through DUI, or driving illegally with no license, no insurance, whatever, or they may have been at fault in an accident. Very few people end up paying because of not at fault accident, but even then, that is one of the expenses involved with driving. The fact is that the police expect certain standards, they expect to have a fully equipped truck available to provide an assortment of services, towing, recovery and clean up operations, etc, within a very short time frame, and they expect that so that the roads can get moving again quickly. Providing these services is expensive, just as it is expensive to provide ambulance services, or many other on call services that end up being pricey. That's why providing emergency accident response costs so much more than other types of towing, and no, it is not inflated prices, it's the cost of doing business. BTW, the guys out there cleaning up the messes left by drivers who can't be bothered to pay attention to what's happening around them put themselves in significant danger, it's a job that should pay very well, and doesn't. So yeah, I get a little bent when people bitch about the prices charged by towing companies, because frankly, you have no idea what it takes to run the place, what it costs to clean up your mess, and if you don't like it, don't go running into stuff. And for the record, CHP regulates the rates of the towing companies on their rotations, and those rates are in line with what is normal. |
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February 3rd, 2013, 03:33 PM | #94 |
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Yeah, I get it. He screwed up, they spent money cleaning up after him. If he locked his keys in his house he wouldn't expect a locksmith to fix it for free, would he?
If the towing company could go after the deadbeats who dump their cars on the towing company, and do so successfully, then we wouldn't have to have fees like that. As it is, towing companies are forced to do whatever they legally can to convince people to pay their fees, and sometimes that means holding onto property that they had to clean up. |
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Trust me, you don't want that. Seeing as how you would still be held liable for damages, you would probably be getting a bill for thousands of dollars for just the tow on a simple fender bender. If you don't want to pay, then figure out another way to get your car out of everyone else's way. Quote:
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February 3rd, 2013, 05:27 PM | #100 |
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February 3rd, 2013, 05:29 PM | #101 | |
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And if you dump the bike on them, they don't know what it's worth, they can't tear it down right now to check it out to find out what the damages are, so they don't know what they can get out of it. Oh, and let's just say they can get 10 grand out of it, if they do, they owe you everything but the fees. (oh, and the state will enforce that, even if they won't force you to pay for it if you dump a piece of junk on them.) And they can't add in fees for all the extra time they have to spend on doing that. Why couldn't you just pay them? Insurance will reimburse you for that, or hold it against your deductible. I know, it seems a small thing for them to give you a break, but like I had to help the new owners at the company I worked for learn the hard way, that kind of thing runs the company right into the ground, because everyone is in a bad spot. |
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February 3rd, 2013, 05:32 PM | #102 | |
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That's on top of the $65/day storage fee
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February 3rd, 2013, 05:35 PM | #103 |
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No. They are charging you for opening up on a weekend. If that's not the case, if they well and truly are charging fees they aren't allowed to, I can show you the code sections that will help you out and CHP will make sure they aren't ripping you off.
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February 3rd, 2013, 05:39 PM | #104 | |
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Anyway, its too late now I'm just going to go get the tomorrow. I'm wondering if I should rent a uhaul and pick the bike up too. Or does insurance pay for all the storage fees an everything. Is all I have to pay my deductible? Even for getting the bike out?
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February 3rd, 2013, 06:15 PM | #105 | |
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I'm assuming you have full coverage insurance, if so then yes, they will pay everything. Some insurance companies will ask you to pay the fees and pick the vehicle up, this is illegal. If the bike is totaled, then what should happen is that you go pick up your stuff, (during the week, during business hours there should be no charge for this, it is basically built into all the other charges, such as the storage charges) and then you sign the bike over to the insurance company in exchange for the money. At that point they should be picking up the bike, paying the fees, and selling it for whatever they can get out of it. If they are going to fix it, then usually the body shop will send a tow truck with a check for everything, or have the tow yard deliver the bike to the body shop and cut them a check on the spot. The insurance will reimburse for that. Some insurance companies will also try to give you issues about towing coverage limits, this is BS as well. You don't need to have towing coverage, towing coverage is for breakdown towing, this type of towing is covered under the collision portion of the policy. Actually, part of it can be covered under liability, but usually they just group it all under the collision. Every now and then, if they don't think the bike is worth anything, they will pay the towing company for everything up through the current date, and tell you to deal with it from there. Depending on what you want to do, you can sometimes sign the bike over to the towing company, since you already got your money, or you can pick it up (fees are already covered, as long as you get it that day) and try to part it out yourself. Given your description, that's highly unlikely for your situation. It's also more common if it was being covered under the policy of someone that hit you, instead of your own policy in an at fault incident. TLDR: yes, if you have full coverage insurance, just let the insurance deal with it, as long as you can get your stuff on Monday for free don't worry about it. Just make sure you inform the insurance about it and where it is right away. |
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Dude that sounds messed up, I get angry just reading about it...
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Nice to see you got better at braking after your first accident.
Maybe you should start learning from your mistakes before you get yourself killed. Or stick to track only. Glad you are alright and I hope insurance covers all them expenses. Take care. |
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dam jiggles, glad you are ok and have the bawls to post your second crash. i didnt cause i was scared of what you would say. but now i think i might
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me too, me too!
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Thanks Jigglette. How about the full version for me? You like me, remember
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I do like you! But I don't know you!
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I'll wait until I see what my lawyer says
My doctor is gna be super pissed, I promised him I wouldn't crash again. I see him tomorrow for my regular checkup
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