December 17th, 2014, 12:03 AM | #41 |
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December 17th, 2014, 01:35 AM | #42 | |
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December 17th, 2014, 01:35 AM | #43 |
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December 17th, 2014, 11:45 AM | #44 |
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"Hitting" the rear brake might not produce the result you're looking for. Do some homework on highside crashes.
Think about it... when you're under heavy braking, what's happening to the rear tire? It's unweighting, which means it's easy to lock. Locking the rear can be dangerous and lead to a highside as the rear locks, then regains traction. Look at your front brake. Now look at your rear brake. Why is the front so much bigger? Why do supersports have two HUGE front brakes but one tiny rear brake? Which end of the bike do you think does most of the work? In short, where is the vast majority of your braking power concentrated? Next time you ride, try stopping using only the rear brake. What happens? (Hint: Leave LOTS of room.) Now try doing a similar stop using only the front brake. What happens? Do you think you can stop safely using only the front brake? Are you aware that many track riders and racers use the rear brake seldom, if at all? Watch some racing footage... the rear tire is often OFF THE GROUND under heavy braking. Bottom line: The rear brake is indeed there for a reason -- it settles the chassis and can shorten stopping distances somewhat -- but it should not be "HIT" as a rule.
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December 17th, 2014, 11:52 AM | #45 |
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Interesting points man, so for slowing down into turns and slowing down softly when I have plenty of room(the only 2 times I'm using just the back brake), is it best to just use the front lightly? Or engine brake?
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December 17th, 2014, 12:19 PM | #46 |
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Front brake is where it's at.
Your brakes can do WAAAY more than you think they can. You should be in gear for the drive out of the corner before you roll on, so there will be some engine braking too.
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December 17th, 2014, 12:49 PM | #47 |
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Welcome, I would suggest a track day or two before you try to move on.
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December 17th, 2014, 01:33 PM | #48 |
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You're almost ready for the interstate. Def get a liter bike.
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December 17th, 2014, 01:42 PM | #49 |
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H2.
It's the new 'busa. People ask "Why would you need 300 horspower?" Why wouldn't you need 300 horsepower?
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December 17th, 2014, 03:07 PM | #50 | |
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if you mess up your downshifts to use the engine to slow the bike down you can blow the engine. therefore the front brake is where it's at, downshift as you're slowing down. Many times you don't need to brake before a corner but just roll off the gas a bit because you aren't going that fast. Just remember not to turn in and add throttle at the exact same time, that's begging for a lowside. Head to the track sometime to really practice your skills with people who know how to teach you based off of what they see you doing (mid-ohio is the best for this that is remotely near you) also sidenote: don't cover your rear brake, if you accidentally press it at the wrong time you're screwed and it also doesn't let you weight the peg properly. Cover the front instead with 2 fingers. I ride like that 75% of the time on the streets because it cuts down your reaction time significantly.
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December 17th, 2014, 05:13 PM | #51 |
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Thanks guys, will change up how I ride as it sounds to be much safer. Cheers for not sticking with bad habits
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December 17th, 2014, 07:27 PM | #52 |
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December 17th, 2014, 07:49 PM | #53 |
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Welcome Chris, Lots of great advice hear for you.
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December 17th, 2014, 09:10 PM | #54 |
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December 18th, 2014, 08:54 AM | #55 |
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December 18th, 2014, 09:56 AM | #56 |
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