April 7th, 2009, 05:51 PM | #41 |
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Update - after talking to the guy with the new Oxtars (he bought two pairs but got two sizes) I've decided to pass on them. He said they were a full race/track boot and walking in them would be hell beyond a certain point.
So I'm back onto the Setups or what about Icons? I mean at the $100 level how are those icons? |
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April 7th, 2009, 06:30 PM | #42 | |
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April 7th, 2009, 06:31 PM | #43 |
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Thats what he said. Did you try the Oxtars on? Maybe you would have found them comfortable, and remember that most boots need to be broken in.
As for the Icon, I'm still intrigued, c'mon Icon owners - how are those shoes?
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April 7th, 2009, 06:32 PM | #44 |
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Also, crashing in sneakers theres a BIG chance that not only your ankle will suffer from road rash, but will be smashed up into a bajillion little pieces.
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April 7th, 2009, 06:33 PM | #46 |
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Wayne - I'm wearing for the last couple of days a pair of old boots, figure its a smidge better than basketball sneaks.
Mike - haven't tried on the Oxtars - but I did try on a similar race boot (A*s SMX-5) at a cycle gear store. It was fairly stiff - dont know how much to compensate for the breaking in process. |
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April 7th, 2009, 06:34 PM | #47 |
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The Oxtars I was looking at was from a guy who bought 2 pairs of Size 44 when they were being closed out (Oxtar Evo RX) but got one Size 44 and one 46 (my size).
He said for a whole day of walking around it might be horrible and that I should get maybe lower end riding boots or commuter boots. Those setups are looking pretty good right now.. |
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April 7th, 2009, 06:35 PM | #48 |
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Well, I can think of a few guys who's ankles exploded even though they were wearing the best boots on the market, but it's at least FAR less likely you'll need pins and screws to hold it together with a good boot.
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April 7th, 2009, 06:41 PM | #49 |
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Oh my, exploding ankles even with high quality boots?! That must have been a crazy ass crash. Hope they're okay.
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April 7th, 2009, 06:46 PM | #51 |
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Arggg - decisions decisions.
1) Oxtar Evo RX (full race boot) 2) Setup Vision (full race -but like a commuter) 3) Icons of some kind. |
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April 7th, 2009, 06:50 PM | #52 |
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My vote is whatever choice that has better protection and Chuck Taylors folded and carried in a bag.
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April 7th, 2009, 06:52 PM | #53 |
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I've read many reviews on the net about Icon boots, many people say its too chunky and find it hard to fit under gear lever. Anyone care to help?
But, IMO they look good, like a casual shoe would look, and the protection on them looks half decent.
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April 7th, 2009, 06:58 PM | #54 |
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I was thinking of JT over on KawiForums. he crashed at like 90mph last year with full gear and very expensive racing boots and is still recovering from numerous surgeries (including a lot of pins) to his ankle. He bought a new bike and is almost fully healed now, but it took all winter. There was another crash a few years ago where a guy with heavy protective street boots hit the curb feet first and actually tore one of his feet clean off. Good boots are undeniably a must for riding, but it all depends on your velocity and how you impact when you go down. The very best protective gear will not save you from ALL accidents and even if you're an ATGATT guy it bears keeping that in mind every time you ride.
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April 7th, 2009, 07:12 PM | #57 |
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April 7th, 2009, 07:17 PM | #58 |
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i don't know about other boots mentioned, but the tcx ss weigh 710 grams (1 lb., 9-1/8 oz.) each.
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April 7th, 2009, 07:22 PM | #59 |
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April 7th, 2009, 07:33 PM | #60 |
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Have you got a link to these Setup Vision boots, I did a quick Google search and they look awesome, but I don't know if its the same boot.
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April 7th, 2009, 07:41 PM | #61 |
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April 7th, 2009, 07:45 PM | #62 |
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Mesh, can't you just leave a pair of shoes at school and another at where you work? (I'm sure you have more then 2 pairs of shoes). by that you can buy whatever boots you like and don't need to wear them except riding. Just my
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April 7th, 2009, 07:46 PM | #63 |
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The exact pair I saw on google, they look sweet. Pretty sure they would provide decent protection by the looks of them.
So if you do get these, what colour mate? Just read a few reviews, they seem to be comfy and provide protection, but the down side is their ventilation. Oh well, sweaty feet or broken feet? I'd have the sweaty feet please. Just found out that Vision is Sidi's sister company, made under the same roof kind of thing. Thats always a plus.
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April 7th, 2009, 08:02 PM | #65 |
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So have you decided? And where are you going to purchase these from?
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April 7th, 2009, 08:03 PM | #66 |
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Mike - most likely going with the blue Setups. I think they'd be perfect for my type of riding which is 95% commuting to work+school and 5% joy riding in the hills.
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did you see me post earlier setups are made in the far east? that's how they kept the cost down.
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Well in that case, get off the computer and go buy them . Just found out that they were not available from NewEnough. Must be quite hard to find a pair.
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April 7th, 2009, 09:19 PM | #72 |
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How can anyone knock Far East footwear manufacturing? I mean isn't that where Nikes and most quality running shoes are made? And if you're thinking of buying Sidi, I believe they are made from European lasts that are typically more narrow than American lasts. That means they fit narrower feet and if yours is wide fit may be a problem. I wouldn't buy a pair of European-made boots without trying on a similar pair at a local bike shop first.
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April 7th, 2009, 09:21 PM | #73 |
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I'd love to try them out - thing is only stuff carried out here in the stores are the top of the line Sidis and A*s. At this price I guess its a gamble. One thing I did get is my EU shoe size.
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who's knocking far east footwear manufacturing? was that directed at me?
and boot companies are not like shoe companies which offer a range of widths in the same sizes, but there are certain manufactures that start with a wider foot pattern than others, european or not. SIDI are noted to fit narrower feet. Oxtar=TCX are also made in Europe and use a wide foot pattern. A* typically lay somewhere between the two. European or far east... you need to know what companies offers what and buy accordingly in stead of bunching them all together. If you buy online, search out a firm that will exchange goods w/o a lot of hassle.... that's why I highly recommend newenough, again and again. |
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it doesn't need to be a gamble. do you even know your shoe size and width? if the store has SIDIs go try them on and see how they compare to the A* you tried earlier. The SIDIs should be similar to the setups in terms of width.
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April 7th, 2009, 09:36 PM | #76 |
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They had like 1 pair of Sidis which were a size 8 or something. Not really the best in terms of boot selection.
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April 7th, 2009, 10:05 PM | #77 |
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C'mon Kelly. You know by now that I'd never "direct" anything your way that wasn't a compliment. If anything, I was reinterating what you said and giving my reasons for it. Things have gotten a lot better lately, but it used to be that if you bought any Italian boot you'd better have skinny feet. Now that boots are made all over the place it's less common, but I'd still want to try on any boot before I'd order it online. And the Euro/US sizing thing is still a big PITA. Half the time the conversion charts on gear websites aren't even close!
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yeah, with MC boots it is a real PITA trying to figure out what will fit and what won't. It makes it a bit easier that the companies make their widths based on what they feel their market is. I was just trying to pass on what little I know about boot companies based on what experience I've had recently with street bike boots.
I agree with you, though, that trying them on is the best thing to do, but for many, that option just doesn't exist... at least not for me. Based on what I think I've learned about boot companies and my feet, I have two pairs of TCX boots on their way from newenough. You can be sure if I need to modify my ideas based on what I learn from them, I will be sure to let the forum know. |
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Remember to do a little review when you get them, and post pictures
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