February 8th, 2012, 10:38 PM | #41 |
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Thanks!!
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June 14th, 2012, 01:38 AM | #42 |
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Thanks a ton for the the writeup! Just an FYI for everyone out there doing this on a 2009 (maybe it's the same on the 2008+ bikes) that there is no U shaped markings on the clutch hub so stop looking for it for almost an hour
Just make sure you line up all the U shaped cut outs on the edge of the friction plates with each other. |
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June 14th, 2012, 07:27 AM | #43 |
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Good info, thx!
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June 14th, 2012, 12:41 PM | #44 |
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That was a pictorial how-to and a half....awesome.
What kinda mileage are folks getting from their 250's before needing new clutch packs..?? |
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June 14th, 2012, 12:45 PM | #45 |
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Mine was 20-25K
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June 14th, 2012, 01:25 PM | #46 |
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it depends on how you use the clutch. i have over 20k miles and my clutch plates look brand new (i also dont hardly use the clutch) however my friends bike has around the same mileage but his clutch plates were completely spent.
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June 22nd, 2012, 04:32 PM | #47 |
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Nice DIY. I will use it to try to figure out whats wrong with my bike's clutch.
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June 22nd, 2012, 05:48 PM | #48 |
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Wow.....Who needs an FSM with guys like you on board...excellent + +
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June 28th, 2012, 11:10 PM | #49 |
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Just replaced the plates in my Ninja today, thanks to this guide!
Thanks again. Note, remember to torque the clutch springs at 78inch pounds, not 77foot pounds like I did.
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June 28th, 2012, 11:35 PM | #50 |
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LOL, for some reason I thought you were joking about replacing your license plate for a sec...... it's late. night, night.
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July 26th, 2012, 09:05 PM | #51 |
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Does anyone with an 08+ know the part number for the paper gasket?
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July 27th, 2012, 09:08 AM | #53 |
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After some digging through Ron Ayers I found it.
For future info its under Engine Cover(s). Thanks for recommending Ron Ayers! It's about $30 less for the plates than where I was looking.
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See if this link works...$53.99 Generally you only replace the fiber plates. The metal ones only get replaced if they are out of spec. EDIT: Oops, I just realized you have the newgen. The links are to the pregen plates, but they probably have newgen plates as well.
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August 4th, 2012, 01:36 PM | #56 |
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I have a set of plates, gasket, and upgraded springs that I didn't use when I broke my first motor. I would have to double-check, but I'm pretty sure they are the EBC plates. They haven't been installed, but I did pre-soak them in oil (it's been a while, so it's a good idea to do it again though before installing them). I'm not currently putting them up for sale, but might consider it if someone wanted them.... maybe, since I'll eventually need to do mine.
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August 16th, 2012, 07:54 PM | #57 |
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How do I know if my springs are weak should I be able to sqeeze them with my hand because I can.Not like collapse them but able to move them I would think by hand no way should I be able to to so
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August 17th, 2012, 04:54 AM | #58 |
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The proper way to test them is with a caliper. The springs shrink as the get weaker.
The uncompressed length of OEM springs should not be less than 31.7 mm. Many aftermarket springs are longer to start with.
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August 24th, 2012, 11:51 AM | #59 |
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clutch not turning
Ok I did all the obove and the pics are awesome so now im putting it back together and the clutch is not turning as im tightening the spring bolts is this a problem i dont want to put it all together and have somthing wrong or will this be ok it turn out the person that had the bike before me didnt have it indexed as you say to do here so i changed that so that why im even messing with it any ideas
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August 24th, 2012, 12:22 PM | #61 |
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yes it a 2003 got it from a guy that had his friend change the clutch and it did not work out so i took it off his hands for a great deal now i need to figure it out cant wait to ride it
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December 10th, 2012, 05:50 AM | #63 |
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possible?
My first gear is slipping, is it possible for me to change out just one friction disk for the first gear? Moneys tight =( . If so , which disk is supposed to be first gear?
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December 10th, 2012, 06:44 AM | #64 |
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Its all or nothing. Try adjusting the cable first. Some people just throw in new springs. The aftermarket ones are stronger and can get more out of the plates.
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March 15th, 2013, 01:44 AM | #65 |
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somehow that doesn't seem right. I watched a youtube video of a guy doing it and he said hand tight, 10-12 lbs I think he said. I thought 10 pounds is way too weak, 15-20 pounds sounds about right. 87 pounds sounds way excessive though, those bolts look weak and might break at that force. I'm probably wrong, but does not sound right
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March 15th, 2013, 02:26 AM | #66 |
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87 in/lbs = 7.25 ft/lbs
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March 15th, 2013, 08:48 AM | #67 |
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FWIW I followed this on Wednesday and everything went flawlessly. THANK YOU for the great write up and all the pictures!
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April 14th, 2013, 11:15 PM | #68 |
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@Purspeed, thank you so much for this DIY. I have a short attention span but somewhow managed to understand this. One thing I noticed on my 2006 is that the direction of the friction plates have the "teeth" biting towards the front. like on a cutoff saw how the teeth bite down like claws onto wood, thats how the teeth on these were facing, except maybe the very last one, but I might have mixed it up so I refaced it to face the same as the rest. It might not matter which way they face but I like them to all face the same way at least and unless I mixed them up I think thats how it came from the factory cause I only have about 6000 miles on this. also how you said the smooth side of the metal plates faces inward, Im pretty sure thats how these were oriented so good call. The only reason I did this because I thought my springs were low but turned out I did it for nothing, but now I know. thanks again!
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What you need is a new set of springs. You can check the condition of the plates and discs while your'e in there, but its a safe bet that they are fine if you havent been slipping it for too long.
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Hi, so when you are referring to edges, you mean the surface, correct? As, one surface side of the metal plate is smooth/roundish other side is flat. On the 08+ manual there is no mention which surface should be placed towards the bike or away from the bike. I had put the flat surface towards the bike when i changed my clutch last year. [And that is how OEM plates were placed]. Is it specifically mentioned in the 2007 manual on the surface orientation?
Also, does the 2007 manual call for any thickness spec for the metal plates? Quote:
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August 20th, 2013, 06:17 PM | #71 |
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Center Rod Free Play
Should there be any free play (in and out) of the center rod which connects to the clutch cover lever?
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There is a small amount of free play, but not much. Not sure what the actual measurement is, but I'd guess about 1/16".
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October 23rd, 2013, 06:29 PM | #73 |
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Need help with my 2008 250r. There is no indexing on the plates. I have aligned all the U shaped clutch plates together and the clutch still won't grab.? What do I do?
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You should ask this in the 2008 section.
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Although I realize this information is a bit late for your clutch replacement, I'm answering anyway so others with the same question can benefit, too. The metal plates are manufactured by "stamping" them out using dies and a hydrolic press. These dies are essentially cookie cutters for metal...in this case, sheet metal. When these parts are stamped out, the outside edges are cut by the die "slamming" down on the sheet metal. Due to this process, one side of the edge will be sharp and if you flip the metal plate to the opposite side, that edge will be slightly rounded. You can baaaaarely see it in the pics I posted, but in person, you'll certainly see it and feel it. The edge that I'm talking about is the outside edge of the metal plates. The main issue when stacking the plates along with the friction discs when installing is that the rounded, outside edges are all pointed either away from the bike or towards the bike. What you'll do is simply pick up a metal plate, feel the edge (or look at the edge closely) place it down...then place down a friction plate...then pick up another metal plate, feel the edge and orient it the same way as the first one and so on. Imagine it like stacking dinner plates. After washing dishes, when you stack your dinner plates, you stack them one way (because that's how they fit together best). In this case, the metal discs are totally flat on both sides, so to figure out how to stack them, look at the outside edges: you want to stack them according to the outside edge, which is a by-product of the stamping process. One edge will be a sharp 90-degree edge, the other will be a dull, ever-so-slightly rounded edge. In terms of manufacturing spec thickness of the plates, I do not have the information or OEM plates to measure, unfortunately. Hope that clarifies things a bit for you. TO EVERYONE: Feel free to post questions in this thread. I'll try to pop in now and again and answer them for you. And if it's a while, at least it'll give others a chance to clear things up when I do post, so it's a win win.
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