June 24th, 2010, 11:54 AM | #1 |
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DIY - Slingshot Racing Preload Adjusters
Ever since I got aftermarket clipons I've been searching high and low for something sexy to cover up the top of the forks.
My search eventually led me to Slingshot Racing's Ninja 250r preload adjusters http://www.slingshotracing.net/catal...-ad-p-191.html. Tuning your suspension to your weight is always a good idea. But why spend $100 on preload adjusters when you can just cut spacers or swap fork oils? 1. The preload adjusters allow you to fine tune the suspension on a level that is hard to achieve with spacers and fork oil swaps. 2. It's much quicker to twist a few screws on the preload adjusters than to disassemble both forks each time an adjustment needs to be made. 3. The preload adjusters are SOOOOOoooo sexy Slingshot Racing has done a bang up job with the finish on this product. So now that you've decided you need these , just how hard is this mod? I'd say slightly easier than installing a full system exhaust... which is to say, VERY EASY. Now lets get on with it: OOOOOoooooo.... AAAAaaaahhhhhhh...... I'm assuming that your putting these on because you've got aftermaket clipons. If you don't, you can find instructions on how to remove your stock handlebars here: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12960 (Thanks kim) Regardless of whether you have stock handlebars or not you'll need to start with your forks covers exposed. Ewww.... exposed fork covers First things first. Put the bike on stands. This isn't required but it makes the job a little easier. Especially if your working alone. Up up and away Next, you'll need to remove the old fork covers. To do this, I used a square headed screw driver and pushed down on the fork cover. You should hear a faint poping sound when you've gone far enough. While holding down the fork cover, you'll need to remove the c-ring that holds the fork cap inside the fork tubes. I used a small flathead screw driver for this but any number of tools would work just as well: tweezers, pliers etc. BE CAREFUL NOT TO DAMAGE THE C-RINGS. Be gentel with them. You'll need them later. Once you've taken the c-rings out, slowly release pressure on the fork cap. It is under pressure and may jump out if you let go too quickly. Once the fork cap is out, take the rubber o-ring that is on the fork cap and put it on the preload adjusters. Unscrew the orange part of the preload adjusters (the preload adjuster cap) and apply some anti-seizure lubricant on the threads. Now you'll need to install the preload adjuster. Its just like taking the fork cap out in reverse. To push the preload adjuster into the fork tubes, I used a long socket from a ratchet set. Once you have the preload adjusters pushed all the way in, take the c-rings that you saved earlier and put them back into their notch in the fork tube. MAKE SURE THEY're SEATED PROPERLY. Now take the preload adjuster cap and screw it down onto the preload adjuster you just installed. Torque to 5 ft/lbs and thats it! Now do the other side and your done. Overall, this job took me alone about 20 mins..... with taking pictures and everything. Now you can use standard tools to very easily fine tune your suspension to your weight. Here's some pics of the finished install: So now that both your front and rear suspension is adjustable (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11956) (thanks kim), you should learn about learning to adjust them properly. The suspension section from ninja250 is a great start with some excellent resources. http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Suspension This is what I'm currently reading: http://www.gostar-racing.com/club/mo...0YOUR%20WEIGHT Have fun! Last futzed with by sixstring; June 24th, 2010 at 08:53 PM. |
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June 24th, 2010, 01:46 PM | #2 |
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Very nice diy.
Is this better than emulator set up? Posted via Mobile Device |
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June 24th, 2010, 02:45 PM | #3 |
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think these preload adjusters do the same things as emulators.
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June 24th, 2010, 02:54 PM | #4 |
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You are correct Jerry.
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June 24th, 2010, 03:12 PM | #5 | |
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the emulators give you fine tuning capability of the hydraulics on the compression stroke of the forks. it helps to dampen the stroke of the fork as forces are transmitted back from hitting a bump or any downward force. |
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June 24th, 2010, 03:36 PM | #6 |
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so basically if you have this, can you put in the racetech gold emulator and use this to adjust spring rate to your weight?
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June 24th, 2010, 04:16 PM | #7 |
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the preload adjusters primary function is to match the race sag to the desired amount, based on rider weight. I'm of the belief that it also stiffens up the front end (increases the fork springs' effective spring rate) a bit, too, but others on this board have different views.
there are host of variables that go into tuning the forks... spring rate, preload, oil level/weight, compression damping (which the emulators adjust), rebound dampening, etc. It all depends on what problem you're trying to fix. |
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June 24th, 2010, 04:51 PM | #8 | |
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Nice DIY
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But they do make those other type springs |
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June 24th, 2010, 05:07 PM | #9 |
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Great DIY! /linked in the DIY sticky...
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June 24th, 2010, 07:10 PM | #10 |
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come ride my dirt bike with preloaded springs using washers and tell me the front end is not stiffer.
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June 25th, 2010, 06:39 AM | #11 |
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Thanks Alex,
So to actually torque these adjusters using my torque wrench, I need at least a 1 inch long 27mm hex socket.... These things are harder to find that I had thought. In fact all my local hardware stores seem to stop at 24. Just FYI for anyone planning to do this mod, get your 1 inch 27mm hex socket ahead of time. The emulators are probably more practical than these fork covers. I got them primarily because they look awesome... but if you think about it, the 250r already has pretty stiff suspension compared to the old ninja. Stiffening them up would make everyday riding a even more uncomfortable... but would make more sense on the track. The cartridge emulators, from what I understand gives you progressive dampening.... which would work better on the road. Maybe I'll get a set of those too |
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June 25th, 2010, 07:40 AM | #12 |
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According to that article, this will let you adjust the preload but you will need adjust/control the damping so I guess that's where the emulator comes in. Reading up on the older gens, lots of people swears by the emulator.
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June 25th, 2010, 01:39 PM | #13 |
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I have the emulators in the dirt bikes. They work very well for what they are designed to do.
I have no problems with the front end of the stock ninjette. |
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July 14th, 2010, 12:08 PM | #14 |
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This Slingshot preload adjuster won't work with stock clip-on? From the pic, it appears that the top needs to be openned and with the OEM clipon, it's covered.
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July 14th, 2010, 12:28 PM | #15 |
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I assume when you say stock clipon, you mean the stock handlebars.
The preload adjusters fit the stock handlebars amazingly. You'll just need to pop them off and pop them back on. If course you'll have to increase the preload a bit. If you take the stock bars off, you'll see that there is a cavity that the adjuster caps can fit into. |
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July 14th, 2010, 12:49 PM | #16 | ||
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yeah i meant stock handlebars. I was thinking of getting the clipon awhile back but it won't allow me to use my cruise control bar ends. anyways, I read up at slingshot, here is what they say: Quote:
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July 16th, 2010, 06:44 AM | #17 |
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NVM...I'll cut 10mm off the spacer. That should be exactly where stock should be.
or use this http://www.slingshotracing.net/catal...0mm-p-188.html Posted via Mobile Device Last futzed with by randomwalk101; July 16th, 2010 at 08:12 AM. |
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May 2nd, 2011, 11:35 AM | #18 |
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what is the purpose of the very small screw that fit into the gold part ? I lost one, but i can't figure out the utility. Should i replace it ?
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May 3rd, 2011, 10:55 AM | #19 |
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it is to keep the gold cap from vibrating loose.
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May 5th, 2011, 03:54 PM | #20 |
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No contact info (phone number) on their site???
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August 26th, 2011, 01:22 AM | #21 |
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are the Bikers preload adjusters the same to install?
im thinking about getting them since they look cool! lol... what effects do they have on the suspensions by the way? never had pre-load adjusters on any of my bikes, so im not sure what they let you do~ i remember reading about it a while back, but it didn't stick
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August 26th, 2011, 07:02 AM | #22 |
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They do look cool, but I'd be worried about random strangers walking by and just twisting them.
They do what your rear preload does, but very minimally up front. I think the slingshots I have are adjustable only 5-20 mm. IMO more for looks. |
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November 5th, 2011, 04:03 PM | #23 |
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Thanks for the DIY. Just installed mine after putting on the Woodcraft clip-ons. I did it by myself. But 2 people will make it much easier. And for some reason, the right was more difficult than the left. Not sure why... But it all worked out. About 20 minutes to complete.
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March 2nd, 2012, 05:51 AM | #24 |
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Installed mine yesterday, was pretty easy with the above DIY
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May 3rd, 2012, 03:14 PM | #25 |
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Today after the bike was parked outside in 90F heat the fork oil started coming out through the threads of the preload bolt.
I'm not even filled up completely (or to the recommended Racetech oil level...I'm running their springs). Has anyone had this happen? I dont think there is an O-ring in there... |
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