So what is Kawa thinking with the Ninja 650? - Page 2

subxero · April 14th, 2015, 05:48 AM

I don't think there is anything wrong with the 650 per-say, some people out there probably like it and think it is a good machine and that it looks cool.

I am not one of them. I like a little more sporty look but I guess I can't say much about the mechanics of the bike, it could be a great machine, I just think it is kinda ugly and not my cup of tea. However if it was the only bike I could own I'd ride the balls off it

Jono · April 14th, 2015, 09:12 PM

*This is all based on my experience riding two 2009 Ninja 650's.

It's not a bad bike, but it's just not what I was looking for. First of all, I am not a fan of the ergonomics. This pic comparison sums up why I went for the SV. The upright seating is just not that comfortable to me.

Secondly, I didn't like how the the Ninja 650 felt. For me, I didn't get a lot of front end feedback.

And lastly, it just doesn't sound very good. It sounds like a big Ninja 250. Why not get a v-twin that sounds very beastly in comparison.

Sadly, if you're looking for a new motorcycle, Suzuki ruined a good thing with the SFV650. The new Ninja 650 just looks really funky. I really like the FZ-07 but have never ridden one. I really wish Yamaha made one with at least half fairings. I like my sport bikes with wind protection.

So go crash those ninjettes and get R6's! That's what Kawi wants you to do.

Sirref · April 14th, 2015, 09:14 PM

nono Kawi wants you to crash your bike and get a 636

Jono · April 14th, 2015, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

nono Kawi wants you to crash your bike and get a 636

You mean 300. It's cheaper and is basically the same as 636

alex.s · April 14th, 2015, 09:18 PM

man that 300 is really nice. i test rode one in ga and man. only thing i'd change is those bars. ****in thing is schweete

Sirref · April 14th, 2015, 09:20 PM

I almost didn't upvote that post because of the source of the pic
...almost

The 300 is a sweet bike, but the 636 is the perceived "step up" from it that kawi is going for, not the 650

Jono · April 14th, 2015, 09:31 PM

Don't follow that youtube channel. It was just the first image that popped up in the google search.

Also, you can clearly see why Kawasaki doesn't make a 650 that looks as nice as the 300/636. It would hurt the sales of their 636.

Brother Michigan · April 14th, 2015, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

*This is all based on my experience riding two 2009 Ninja 650's.

It's not a bad bike, but it's just not what I was looking for. First of all, I am not a fan of the ergonomics. This pic comparison sums up why I went for the SV. The upright seating is just not that comfortable to me.

Secondly, I didn't like how the the Ninja 650 felt. For me, I didn't get a lot of front end feedback.

And lastly, it just doesn't sound very good. It sounds like a big Ninja 250. Why not get a v-twin that sounds very beastly in comparison.

Sadly, if you're looking for a new motorcycle, Suzuki ruined a good thing with the SFV650. The new Ninja 650 just looks really funky. I really like the FZ-07 but have never ridden one. I really wish Yamaha made one with at least half fairings. I like my sport bikes with wind protection.

So go crash those ninjettes and get R6's! That's what Kawi wants you to do.

That's not really the comparison you should make. The SV650S has clip-ons, the SV650 (no S) does not, and has a much more upright riding position.

Put clip-ons on the Ninja 650 (or just a set of "sport" bars) and you'll have something much more comparable to the SV650S.

Sirref · April 14th, 2015, 09:33 PM

Don't subscribe to youtube channels of posers in general, especially that one

the 636 is a sweet bike, but then again all of the 600s are

Jono · April 14th, 2015, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Michigan

That's not really the comparison you should make. The SV650S has clip-ons, the SV650 (no S) does not, and has a much more upright riding position.

Put clip-ons on the Ninja 650 (or just a set of "sport" bars) and you'll have something much more comparable to the SV650S.

But that SV doesn't have a windscreen. Therefore in my situation it was automatically ruled out. And putting clipon's on a Ninja 650 doesn't magically change it. A friend has an 09 Ninja 650 and did the 636 front end conversion. The bike just wasn't designed to have clipons. With the 636 front end, it makes the bike worse to ride as he didn't get rearsets to fix the leg position and the tank shape will always be a problem with little to no fixes.

And after all these 'fixes' it costs less to get a SV650S.

cadd · April 14th, 2015, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

I almost didn't upvote that post because of the source of the pic
...almost

The 300 is a sweet bike, but the 636 is the perceived "step up" from it that kawi is going for, not the 650

He is the biggest joke ever. It makes me angry after 30 seconds into his videos.

liberpolly · April 14th, 2015, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

Sadly, if you're looking for a new motorcycle, Suzuki ruined a good thing with the SFV650.

How come? (I know nothing about them)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

I really like the FZ-07 but have never ridden one. I really wish Yamaha made one with at least half fairings. I like my sport bikes with wind protection.

FZ6R?

Jono · April 15th, 2015, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liberpolly

How come? (I know nothing about them)

FZ6R?

High price and weird ass looks. Much rather have a FZ-09 for the price.

FZ6R seems like a nice bike, I've bever ridden one, but I think I'd prefer the twin in the FZ-07. It makes more torque and a little more HP. Plus the parallel-twin that runs a cross-plane 270-degree crank sounds good.

Link to original page on YouTube.

April 14th, 2015, 05:48 AM	#41
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April 14th, 2015, 09:18 PM	#45
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	man that 300 is really nice. i test rode one in ga and man. only thing i'd change is those bars. ****in thing is schweete __________________________________________________
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April 14th, 2015, 09:20 PM	#46
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	I almost didn't upvote that post because of the source of the pic ...almost The 300 is a sweet bike, but the 636 is the perceived "step up" from it that kawi is going for, not the 650 __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

April 14th, 2015, 09:31 PM	#47
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Don't follow that youtube channel. It was just the first image that popped up in the google search. Also, you can clearly see why Kawasaki doesn't make a 650 that looks as nice as the 300/636. It would hurt the sales of their 636.
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April 14th, 2015, 09:12 PM	#42
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	*This is all based on my experience riding two 2009 Ninja 650's. It's not a bad bike, but it's just not what I was looking for. First of all, I am not a fan of the ergonomics. This pic comparison sums up why I went for the SV. The upright seating is just not that comfortable to me. Secondly, I didn't like how the the Ninja 650 felt. For me, I didn't get a lot of front end feedback. And lastly, it just doesn't sound very good. It sounds like a big Ninja 250. Why not get a v-twin that sounds very beastly in comparison. Sadly, if you're looking for a new motorcycle, Suzuki ruined a good thing with the SFV650. The new Ninja 650 just looks really funky. I really like the FZ-07 but have never ridden one. I really wish Yamaha made one with at least half fairings. I like my sport bikes with wind protection. So go crash those ninjettes and get R6's! That's what Kawi wants you to do.

April 14th, 2015, 09:33 PM	#49
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	Don't subscribe to youtube channels of posers in general, especially that one the 636 is a sweet bike, but then again all of the 600s are __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

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