August 6th, 2017, 08:23 AM | #1 |
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Erik Buell's revenge?
http://www.bikebandit.com/blog/post/...ycles_dying_us
Who's sorry now? Erik's probably reading this with a big smile on his face. Mr. Levatich go fire-up your golf cart. Bill |
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August 6th, 2017, 08:51 AM | #2 |
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Oh no, say it and not so!
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August 7th, 2017, 09:28 AM | #3 |
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If Buells were selling well Harley would still be building them. But the were never more than a niche market.
Now part of that is that I don't think Harley, and especially many Harley dealerships marketed the Buell's very well. But I think Harley learned something from the Buell exercise. I go into Harley dealerships now the new "Street" bikes are right up front and center. While Harley's sales are down, they have been around a long time and weather much worse storms. I wouldn't write them off yet. |
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August 7th, 2017, 09:58 AM | #4 | |
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August 7th, 2017, 10:15 AM | #5 |
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Problem is that people my age are completely turned off by HD and the culture surrounding it. We see men and women ages 50+ who are completely closed-minded. My dad raced bikes for many years. He was a Honda/Kawi guy. He used to make comments about HD owners and how very little they actually rode. Anyway my dad won a HD in a raffle about 5yrs ago. I don't remember what kind it was but it was more along the lines of a touring bike. Had everything. He gave it an honest shot. He hated it and sold it a few months later and owning one verified everything he already knew. Loud, overpriced pieces of **** he would tell me. People are buying a name, a brotherhood, a culture. Something my generation really cares nothing about. Give me a brand new R6 or an old 1979 Honda CB 750FOUR and I'll be the happiest lady in the world. Love my ninjette's. If HD riders want to look down on me for my choice in bikes then I look down on them for being THAT closed-minded and maybe that generation ruined the HD sales for my generation. HD has no one to blame but themselves and their not so friendly customer base. As far as Buell's go it's funny that they ended up with HD. Can't stand a Buell either, thanks Dad.
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August 7th, 2017, 10:42 AM | #6 |
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I've met several really awesome HD riders. One of my friends is a former CHP rider, and he is amazingly great. Will help you work on any bike, no matter....will ride along side you even if you had a Kawi 125. Really awesome guy. His Harley is his baby, and rain or shine, cold or hot, he is out riding.
I've met a few bad apples on both sides of the fence. I've been on a Harley and really enjoyed riding it. I'm not so much into sportbikes anymore. If I get another, it will be a standard or adventure/touring ride. You know, KLR, Triumph Bonnie, Triumph Scrambler, Versys, etc. I'm done with sportbikes, and cruisers aren't me. I'd get an older bike like a good old FZR, CBRF3, you know, the oldies. However, any newer sportbike, nah. It would have to be something special. Back on topic. I think Harley will last. I think they may try to market a little differently, or put out something kind of weird. I think they will be around for a while longer.
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August 7th, 2017, 11:26 AM | #7 |
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Polaris didn't roll Victory into Indian because the classic big cruiser segment is dying. Harley needs to make some changes, but they're already on their way with bikes like the Street series and the Roadster. They'll be just fine, much to your chagrin.
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August 7th, 2017, 12:03 PM | #8 | |
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August 7th, 2017, 03:56 PM | #9 | |
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August 7th, 2017, 05:26 PM | #10 | |
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August 7th, 2017, 06:16 PM | #11 |
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How about DucDavidson?
https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/201...on-interested/
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August 7th, 2017, 06:38 PM | #12 | |
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August 8th, 2017, 07:46 AM | #13 | |
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August 8th, 2017, 03:46 PM | #14 |
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Didn't EBR just die for the second time? I doubt Mr. Buell is smiling much
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August 9th, 2017, 02:48 AM | #15 |
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I'm noticing alot less water pumps, I mean Harleys around.
At one stage after a "working holiday" all the boys would hit the shops and buy a Harley, now, it's more big jap bikes. There's still a few boys with them, but they are rarely seen. The bike spots at work now might have 1 Harley to 20 other brands. The guy's with the Harley at work, well IMO, have them as a image thing as appossed to transport or fun. Plus living in Australia the price of them, for what you get, is ridiculous. Remember to covert from AUD. http://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/?Q...le%5D%29%29%29 I remember being on a sandy holiday and seeing the prices that the US boys could pick them up for, same same for cars and trucks, made me sad. |
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August 9th, 2017, 04:34 AM | #17 | |
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August 9th, 2017, 07:23 AM | #18 |
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Hey, you can shave almost three hours off with that alternate route!
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August 9th, 2017, 07:55 AM | #19 |
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Ouch, that would be like a drive from Michigan to California. Well, if you're into Hot Rods at least you can visit the website. Hey, why are Aussies so enthralled with American Detroit auto junk? You guys love Offenhauser engines also. Pretty cool but unexpected.
And . . . why does your postal service charge sooooo much to ship to the U.S.? Ah well, throw another shrimp on the barby Mate. Cheers, Bill |
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August 9th, 2017, 01:41 PM | #20 | |
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Harleys are pretty expensive for what you get even here in the states. They have held a premium image for a while, which worked with their core riders, but it's not working on the younger generations. But, Just noticed this article: http://www.motorcycle.com/mini-featu...worldwide.html Even Yamaha's sales are down in the US, so it isn't just the Harley's not fitting in with Millennials, it is all motorcycles. The video game kids don't want to get off the couch. Many of my kids friends don't have drivers licenses at age 18. |
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I started telling them when they were little that I reserved the right to kick them out of the house the day they turned 18. The deal was as long as they were going to college or a trade school they could continue to live at home. My four kids are 26, 25, 21, and 18. Only the 18 year old is still at home and she starts community college in a little over a week. The requirements for her living at home are that she goes to school full time, and works a part time job paying for her own cell phone and vehicle insurance, she rides a motorcycle she paid for herself and pays for gas and maintenance on our old jeep. The 26 and 25 year old got jobs with the same company, about an hour away, after graduating college and are sharing an apartment to save money. The 21 year old started college, dropped out and joined the Army. He is stationed about 2 1/2 hrs away. My kids are not typical millenials. |
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