February 17th, 2010, 02:52 PM | #81 |
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jesus... it's not like our bikes have the power to rip the bars out of your hands if you give it too much throttle.
try the mod... I think you'll like it. start w/ one zip tie and if you think you need more, try and add another later. there have been instances where there was not enough room for 2 ties w/o binding. it's all about personal preference. for me, I wanted to be able to go from closed to full open throttle w/o having to regrip or pregrip. How much precision you have over it is directly proportional to the amount of gray matter between your ears. with that said, I just went to a slower throttle on my trials bike this weekend to gain more slow speed throttle precision because that bike does have the power to rip the bars out of my hands. |
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February 17th, 2010, 03:08 PM | #82 |
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Just out of curiosity, any other bikes out there (aside from R1/R6) that have a 1/5 or more aggressive throttle? Specifically, are the 2009+ ZX6R's 1/5? I think the 6R's would fit in ours with the same grip and everything. Might be a better option than the Yamahas.
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February 17th, 2010, 09:14 PM | #83 |
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The R6 tube already slips on and costs $10 on eBay. No need to reinvent the wheel, IMO.
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February 18th, 2010, 12:58 AM | #84 |
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What year R6?
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February 18th, 2010, 11:46 AM | #85 |
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February 23rd, 2010, 06:00 AM | #86 |
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I live in NYC I need this mod now R6 throttle tube or The BRG 1/5th Turn Throttle Adapter?
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February 23rd, 2010, 06:05 AM | #87 |
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I think r6 throttle tube Yamaha part number is 5SL-26240-01-00 for $8
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April 7th, 2010, 12:49 PM | #88 |
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I did the r6 swap works a little better then stock go's right on needs no mods:-)
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April 22nd, 2010, 06:38 AM | #89 |
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I had a problem with the R6 mod. It took up so much slack out of the cable that I couldn't adjust it back down against the idle adjuster stop. I would need a longer inner cable to make it work on my pre gen. I loved the way the quick twist felt though and would use it in a second if I could make it work.
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April 22nd, 2010, 04:04 PM | #91 |
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that's funny I had know problems
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April 22nd, 2010, 04:54 PM | #92 |
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went full slack on both ends and still had 3 or 4 mm of distance to idle set stop. I suppose I could cut off a little housing to shorten that length and increase relative length of cable but I don't know if the shorter cable would bind more. hate for the fix to be the start of another adventure...
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April 22nd, 2010, 06:57 PM | #93 |
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That may work
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April 22nd, 2010, 07:33 PM | #94 |
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I wouldn't. I had issues with a quick tube that I purchased and it didn't fit correctly out of the box. Unless you don't mind replacing parts that you need to hack up to get things to work, I would advise against trying to modify the throttle to get the tube to work.
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April 22nd, 2010, 07:48 PM | #95 |
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any chance the throttle cable routing is nonstandard, creating a longer path to travel eating up your slack?
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April 22nd, 2010, 08:05 PM | #96 |
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the routing would not make a difference.
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April 23rd, 2010, 03:39 AM | #97 |
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I wouldn't know how to just snip the housing anyway...I have some bicycle cable housing cutters but they are not designed to preserve the cable and even if I did manage to just get the housing off...how would I deburr the end?
Hmm. Does anyone know if it is possible to re attach the cable end after you cut it or if anyone sells a throttle pull cable with a bit more slack in the cable? thanks again I would love to be able to use the R6 tube
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April 30th, 2010, 01:53 PM | #98 |
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I bought a R6 throttle tube Yamaha part number 5SL-26240-01-00 it is actually .005" SMALLER in diameter then the stock throttle tube on my bike now. I ended up just using the zip tie method.
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May 16th, 2010, 07:38 PM | #99 |
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Could someone point me in the right direction at Cycle Gear? I have been looking, but have not found the R6 throttle tube. A lot of tubes on the site, but non seem to be labeled.
Nevermind, found the 03-05 R6 sleeves at Black Hawk Customs, will that year sleeve work? |
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May 16th, 2010, 08:40 PM | #100 | |
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I bought a R6 throttle tube Yamaha part number 5SL-26240-01-00 it is actually .005" SMALLER in diameter then the stock throttle tube on my bike now. I ended up just using the zip tie method. I think the 2007 and older 250's have a smaller cam on the throttle tube. The R6 tube swap originated on the older bikes before the 2008 was even produced. Kawasaki shows different part numbers between the generations. 2008 : GRIP-ASSY,THROTTLE 46019-0001 2007 : GRIP-ASSY,THROTTLE 46019-1077 |
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May 16th, 2010, 08:44 PM | #101 |
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It isn't a factory part, it's a replacement item made by Motion Pro.
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May 25th, 2010, 12:48 PM | #102 |
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Single zip-tie mod completed. I really like it.
As a byproduct of less twist, it gives that little extra throttle zing when blipping downshifts. This translates into less hand movement = smoother downshifts. |
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May 31st, 2010, 02:29 PM | #103 |
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Save your money...do the zip tie method. It's easy to do and cheap and reversible.
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June 11th, 2010, 11:23 PM | #104 |
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Best bang for buck mod!
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July 20th, 2010, 10:37 AM | #105 |
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Just finished doing this mod, just the thing I was looking for. Thanks for posting this up. Putting the housing back together was PITA for me though I wasted like 10 min trying to get it to fit correctly.
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September 11th, 2010, 11:01 AM | #106 |
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bloody brilliant!
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November 8th, 2010, 01:48 PM | #107 |
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I did this mod using the gen 1 R6 throttle assembly. WOW!. It's like a new bike. I highly recommend this mod to any 250r owner who thinks they've gotten bored or out grown their 250. It makes the throttle so much more responsive.
The bike feels so much quicker. You don't notice much difference at higher speeds, but on the low end, HUGE difference. While it used to feel like there was a lag trying to accelerate through the lower RPMs, now just a slight twist of the wrist throws the tach up to 10K in the blink of an eye. I was torn between trying the zip tie and getting an R6 throttle assembly. In the end, I decided it was worth the $13 to have a throttle assembly that didn't really need any modification. Turns out it did need a slight modification. I had to take about a 1/4 inch off the throttle stop with my dremmel. But other than that, it was a piece of cake. If you're looking for a little more pep from your bike, this mod is great!!! |
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November 8th, 2010, 02:02 PM | #108 |
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part number for the Yami throttle?
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November 8th, 2010, 03:36 PM | #109 |
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The Yamaha part number is 5SL-26240-01-00.
Here is the link I got the info from.. http://www.rcramer.com/bikes/ex250/throttle.html My bike is a 2007. I've heard that this may not work on the 08+ Ninja 250s. Something about the throttle tube already being larger on those. |
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I read where some people dremmeled it down to match the stock throttle. But I didn't have to take off that much to make it work. Now I wish I had taken pics. |
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November 8th, 2010, 06:30 PM | #112 |
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Did any of you need to adjust the throttle cable down by the carbs?
I used a PVC slice because I was lazy to go out and had time to spare. Will probably go get some zipties to compare thickness but I didn't add more than 2mm to the stock tube and I found it incredibly tight and initially, some binding as well. Once I loosened the cable, it was snug but the binding disappeared. So far, took it for a quick spin but I can't really tell the difference. I may have shaved off so much that it became less than 1 zip-tie thickness but I can't imagine getting anything thicker on there without it getting caught on something. |
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November 8th, 2010, 11:07 PM | #114 |
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this is actually the mod i was looking for to fix that lag in the throttle. I know what i'm doing once i get home from work!
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November 11th, 2010, 06:04 AM | #116 |
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so the crazy glue isn't holding so well. is there any other glue I can use to get the ziptie to stick? Maybe I just need to sand it down a lot more...
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November 11th, 2010, 04:05 PM | #117 |
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someone suggested spray adhesive. You could try that. I found that super glue tends to be more brittle if it is allowed to cure in a cold place. Try allowing it to cure inside the house where it's a little warmer. Sanding it down rougher is also highly recommended. If you think your not holding it in place long enough, Use another ziptie to wrap around the throttle tube or a clamp until it's cured.
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There is also a super glue made specifically for plastic and comes with an adhesion promoter you could try that as well. I think its from loctite brand
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November 12th, 2010, 01:57 AM | #120 |
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so i finally did the mod, and had a hell of a time putting everything back together. took it for a test drive and there's a noticeable kick. the only problem is after releasing the throttle, it sloooowly goes back down. does anyone know how to fix this?
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