November 12th, 2010, 02:47 AM | #121 |
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k, i took a look at the pics at the beginning of this thread and it looks like the zipties were filed down at the ends at a 45 degree angle. correct me if i'm wrong. maybe that'll do the trick...
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April 9th, 2011, 03:54 PM | #123 |
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I have filed both of my ends down and trimmed the side in as well...But im still having slight binding at WOT is barley sticks for about 1 sec then goes down smooth..If i almost go WOT is never binds at all...ANy idea how to fix this?
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April 9th, 2011, 04:00 PM | #124 |
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make sure it's not your cables binding somehow and if that's not the problem, try using some slightly thinner cable ties.
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April 9th, 2011, 04:15 PM | #125 |
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That's pretty dangerous, you might want to take that out until you fix it. Good luck.
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April 9th, 2011, 04:57 PM | #126 |
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im pretty sure its the actual pull cable...what is the cable ties?
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April 9th, 2011, 05:27 PM | #127 |
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cable tie= zip tie
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April 11th, 2011, 08:53 AM | #128 |
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i double checked everything is there is still little biding!...it only binds with the bike off if i twist it past WOT and if im riding it doesnt stick, catch or bind...WTF...should i remove push cable?
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hmmmm, okay... what makes you think the throttle is binding... is it an actual physical resistance at the throttle grip when you turn it to WOT? how can you turn it past WOT??? |
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April 11th, 2011, 09:59 PM | #130 |
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okay since the throttle requires less turning there is a little gap at the end of WOT that does do anything now...does that make sense?? its like a .2 inch play right at the end that if i go passed WOT it will stick for a sec and snap back...and if the bikes on and i rev it WOT it doesnt stick b/c i dont need to go passed to that .2inch play and even if i do it doesnt stick like when its off?? maybe the throttl line needs to be shortend at the carbs? my adjustment for throttle cable is already turned in all the way...If i loosen it at all my throttle binds/sticks more and more!!
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April 11th, 2011, 10:01 PM | #131 |
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and yes it deff the throttle cable binding b/c if i play with the line and the adjuster i can make it stick more/less or not at all for a few secs...... anyway I ordered the r6 throttle and will play with that!!
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April 11th, 2011, 10:19 PM | #132 |
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WOT = wide open throttle and should happen when the throttle is opened all the way to it's physical stop. Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say.
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April 11th, 2011, 10:44 PM | #133 |
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im saying the last .2inch of the throttle dont make my rpms jump any faster and also make it stick...my throttle is a shorter twist now so lets say WOT is a 1.5" twist it only takes me 1.3" to be at WOT..so the last .2" doesnt do anything and is where my cable sticks/binds...so im saying i dont need to twist all the wat to achieve full throttle!..sorry for the confusion
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gotcha... do you have the proper amount of free play at the throttle?
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April 12th, 2011, 09:19 AM | #135 |
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not to much free play b4 I twist the throttle like it used to be. its very sensitive now and as soon as i twist the rpm move
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You need to have some free play when the throttle is at rest. Sounds like the cable is adjusted too tight.
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April 12th, 2011, 11:22 AM | #137 |
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will check on that and loosen it up to see!
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Mine barely has any binding but it's definitely tight. I dont see how I can adjust it to loosen it up at all though. I looks as if it's as loose as it can get. Will have to check again later.
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April 15th, 2011, 06:21 PM | #139 |
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ok so i got my r6 throttle today and its a shorter throw for sure..its a little less of a twist than the OEM tube w/ the zip tie mod..Id say about a 1/5 turn now w/ the r6 throttle..I love it but it still binds at WOT for a sec.... i have the throttle disassembled and have found that it the pull cable that BINDS! If i pull on just the line its self it still get stuck if i pull it out all the way...What can cause this?? is mt cable kinked some how? even with everthing taken apart the line catchs!!! ERR help!
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April 15th, 2011, 06:24 PM | #140 |
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have you tried cleaning and lubing the cable?
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10016 what year is your bike? |
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April 15th, 2011, 06:31 PM | #141 |
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2002... and no i have not cleaned the line yet but its the main pull throttle cable for sure.... its smooth all the way untill i pull the line out all the way untill it can move any more then it sticks for a sec
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April 15th, 2011, 06:35 PM | #142 |
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get a cable luber and shoot some wd40 through there and see what kinda crap comes out the end. be sure to put a rag on the end to catch whatever comes out so you can see what was in there.
if that doesn't fix it, then a new pull cable should solve your problem, if you are sure it's the cable that's binding. |
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April 15th, 2011, 10:31 PM | #143 |
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Gonna have to try this mod. Thanks for the write up
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April 16th, 2011, 06:34 PM | #144 |
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its deff the cable and im gonna order a new one its only 13$$...I know this b/c even if the throttle is disassembled the cable still sticks by hand..IE the throttle tube isnt pulling the cable my HAND IS and its still sticking
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May 3rd, 2011, 12:06 AM | #145 |
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I know this is in the pre-gen section but does anyone happen to know if the r6 (or any others) throttle will work on the 08+? I am thinking of giving the pvc method a shot just to see the result but would much rather a more professional style solution, just for safety if nothing else.
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anyone have some pregen and newgen throttle tubes laying around to see if the outside diameters are different? |
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May 14th, 2011, 11:59 AM | #148 |
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I was having trouble getting the zip tie to stick (they would both just pop off) so I tried using a cut closet rod mount and it's just slightly smaller than the throttle so it kind of clips on and stays. No need to hold it with pliers hoping that the glue will stick when you let go, just glue and walk away. Here is what I'm talking about. With the right piece just cut about 1/4" off the round part.
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How are everyone's zip ties holding up?
I'd imagine over time the tie will wear down.
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It shouldn't really... They're plastic just like the throttle tube itself, and there shouldn't be any friction on it. It wouldn't hurt to check, but even if it started to wear through a little bit, which I *think* is unlikely, it wouldn't hurt anything.
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October 15th, 2011, 01:41 AM | #151 |
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Just a thought on this, I have my throttle tube off completely at the moment while I wait for a new handle bar, But was thinking Why not just cut a piece of irrigation pipe and file, like cut a thin bit off the end slice it or even take a piece out bevel the two edges at the required angle and clip it on even with the glue, may even be able to get different thickness with class ratings of pipe, It is only another alternative as irrigation is my occupation and it is readily available to me. if any one could think of any issues I could have with this, I'd be interested.
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This has been covered on here somewhere already, I think by kkim. IIRC, it had to be just thin enough at the ends so that it didn't get stuck in the throttle control box, and had to be a smooth transition of thickness pipe so that it keeps the throttle pull linear...
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it's actually on the first few pages of this thread. the pictures are down, but you'll get the idea.
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October 17th, 2011, 03:44 AM | #154 |
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Sorry If I was misunderstood, I was just looking at alternative material, this is ok isn't it, Pictures are better.
Hugs it well and is a natural shape. This a class 9 pipe, I hope the thickness is fine and it doesn't bind, I will assemble it before I glue it for a trial to see how it fits.
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That looks pretty darn good!
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FYI - this mod sucks.
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February 3rd, 2012, 11:18 AM | #159 |
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Because when I attempted this some time last year I immediately experienced cable binding issues. Trailerboy experienced the same thing on his bike @ a trackday event last month. Granted he didn't have any issues prior but you may eventually experience this. Hopefully not during emergency situations.
I'm not a big fan of simple DIY homemade mods--I'm a direct fit kinda guy.
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