March 25th, 2009, 02:04 PM | #1 |
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Octane, Money and You??? What do you run in your 250 and why?
I use 87 octane gas. It is what is recommended for my 08 250R.
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March 25th, 2009, 02:08 PM | #2 |
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I run 87 octane too. I don't know for sure whether it's reccommended in pregens, but I'm a cheap son-of-a-gun, so I buy what's cheaper! Runs great, so I don't think it's a problem.
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March 25th, 2009, 02:09 PM | #3 |
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87 is what is recommended for the pregens, too.
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March 25th, 2009, 02:15 PM | #4 |
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I always run 87. I tried running premium in the past and found that my gas mileage sufferd and performance did not improve.
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March 25th, 2009, 02:16 PM | #5 |
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Ok. Really quick qestion then: Why do all the new bikes have stickers that say use 90+ octane to keep from causing severe damage to the engine? I noticed that while checking some things on an 09 here. Is it just a trick to make you pay more for gas?
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March 25th, 2009, 02:18 PM | #6 |
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where are the stickers located and is it a factory Kawasaki sticker or something the dealer had printed up?
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March 25th, 2009, 02:23 PM | #7 |
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I don't know if it's just from the dealer or not. It's right on top of the tank, just below the gas tank. It says "Important - Use only 90+ octane gasoline to avoid causing serious damage to engine." I thought it was full of crap, but wanted to make sure. I guess it could be a dealership thing? I know I saw it on all of the new Kawi bikes, but I didn't check the Suzuki or Honda (it's a 3 brand dealership).
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March 25th, 2009, 02:32 PM | #8 |
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I run 87 too. Recommended for the Ninjette, plus I've read that unless you get knocking (on any vehicle, even one which recommends higher), there's no point going higher.
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March 25th, 2009, 02:36 PM | #9 | |
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http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/R...RONMONPON.html if it's 90+ RON, that's the same as our US gas 87 octane PON. |
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March 25th, 2009, 02:40 PM | #10 |
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I use 87 octane on mine from either chevron, shell, or exxonmobil. Don't really see the point on using higher octane unless I have a turbo on my bike lol.
Hmm, I don't see the sticker requiring 90+ octane on mine, but I have seen that sticker on other bikes especially the high performance super sport bikes. |
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March 25th, 2009, 02:45 PM | #11 | |
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And I feed her 87
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March 25th, 2009, 02:52 PM | #12 |
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I might be able to get a pic. I don't actually have a camera at the moment though. I'd have to borrow someone else's (which is what I do for any pics I'll have unless I get them off the internet). I'll see what I can do.
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March 25th, 2009, 03:18 PM | #13 |
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Baby ninja gets 93. I fill up the R1 & just hand the nozzle over
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March 25th, 2009, 03:24 PM | #14 |
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bah... fill up the ninja first, then fill the R1 w/ 87.
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March 25th, 2009, 03:26 PM | #15 |
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I use 91 occasionally I guess just to help clean the engine. Probably doesn't do anything but eh, it's Costco 91 so it's about the same price between 87 & 89 at regular stations
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March 25th, 2009, 03:28 PM | #16 |
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March 25th, 2009, 03:30 PM | #17 |
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Costco 87 it is from now on then , unless I hear some knocking I guess
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March 25th, 2009, 03:39 PM | #18 |
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yes, knocking is the "litmus" test.
not saying not to use the higher octane, but there is no benefit for our bikes other than lightening your wallet. save your money for some cool mods, instead... or synthetic oil. |
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March 25th, 2009, 03:39 PM | #19 |
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I have read high and low about what gas to use in the 250 and the average is 87 octane. I hear running a higher octane makes the motor run to rich. In reality higher octane gas burns at a higher temp which could change certain characteristics of the motor. In my car however I run Prem. octane in it, and car motors are usually more refined and controlled, I notice it idle smoother and has quicker pick up.
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March 25th, 2009, 03:40 PM | #20 | |
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If the engine is tuned to run on regular you won't benefit from using premium. In a nutsell the higher the octane the slower it ignites so when your piston moves up to Top Dead Center (TDC) for combustion, using premium fuel may reduce power and fuel economy- unless you advance timing and/or increase compression via taller pistons.
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March 25th, 2009, 03:47 PM | #21 |
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March 25th, 2009, 04:11 PM | #22 |
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i have always filled up with premium...just looked at the label information in the owners manual....it says Gasoline With Reasearch No. (RON) 91 Min.
so this is normal 87 yes? |
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March 25th, 2009, 04:13 PM | #23 |
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March 25th, 2009, 04:15 PM | #24 |
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just looked in owners manual again...under gas tanks section...says use 87 MINIMUM....so would there be no harm in using higher?
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March 25th, 2009, 04:18 PM | #25 |
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nope... no benefits, either.
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March 25th, 2009, 05:17 PM | #26 |
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87 Octane, as recommended. No knocking.
Some of you guys should read this about Octane. http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/What_ki...hould_I_use%3F
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March 25th, 2009, 05:21 PM | #27 |
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Shell 87 all the time. Though I've dumped in some v-power into the 06 when it was hesitating and needed some cleaning
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March 25th, 2009, 06:36 PM | #28 |
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87 too!
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March 25th, 2009, 07:13 PM | #29 |
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Chevron 87. No need for anything higher.
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March 25th, 2009, 08:05 PM | #30 |
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I use 87 also, since that's what the manual commands.
I read in Rider this month that at altitude you'll sometimes find 85.5 (Eastern MT in particular), but that it behaves the same as 87 because of the altitude... Not that I plan on being above 10,000 feet anytime soon, but anyone know if there's any truth to that? |
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March 25th, 2009, 08:08 PM | #31 |
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Yeah. I don't have first hand experience, but I read that gas stations up high will sell you that.
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March 25th, 2009, 08:31 PM | #32 |
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I'm not sure if the higher octane is what caused backfiring in my bike, but since I started using 87 octane regular, I have had no problems. I use Chevron regular.
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March 25th, 2009, 09:26 PM | #33 |
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coincidence... as I've always used regular and mine still backfires on occasion.
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March 25th, 2009, 09:40 PM | #34 |
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March 26th, 2009, 07:36 AM | #35 |
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March 26th, 2009, 08:40 AM | #36 |
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87 will give more HP than 91, as long as there aren't detonation issues. I run 87 in all the racebikes. 87 FTW!!!!!
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March 26th, 2009, 09:12 AM | #37 |
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March 26th, 2009, 10:47 AM | #38 |
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March 26th, 2009, 11:14 AM | #39 |
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Maybe because it is considered "Top Tier" as are all of these:
QuikTrip Chevron Texaco MFA Oil Co. Conoco Phillips 66 76 Entec Stations Shell The Somerset Refinery, Inc. Kwik Trip / Kwik Star Aloha Petroleum Tri-Par Oil Co. Turkey Hill Minit Markets Mileage Stations Chevron Canada Shell Canada Petro-Canada Sunoco Canada More Info. I have always used 87 in the ninjette. |
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March 26th, 2009, 11:18 AM | #40 |
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I use 91 in mine. To me, the money isn't that big of a deal. If 91 is $.10 more than 87, then we're talking about less than $.50 extra a fill-up. So, in a month, I end up spending less that $2 more for 91 and I don't have to worry about knocking. Just my line of thinking...
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