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The media storm and the fear of religion or "the Other" has made a big deal of nothing. A little personal private comment with the boss should have been all that was required. Probably no one at all would have noticed if he was wearing it on not. On the other side of the coin, he could have said okay and discreetly "lost" his sticker? Is there a sticker that you would refuse to wear if your boss asked you to? |
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November 29th, 2011, 02:13 PM | #42 |
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maybe i am naive... but who gives a ****? on both parts? its just a sticker, if you dont want to wear it who gives a ****. if someone doesnt want to wear your 36 pieces of flare, who gives a ****?
someone in the world got butthurt. boo hoo. im tired of hearing about how sacred peoples beliefs are and how you cant violate peoples beliefs. my beliefs are violated every day, you don't hear me bitching and complaining. i also don't post rant videos ranting about how one person or another is right or wrong. because its retarded. oh sorry, i mean "R-worded" unless someone is actively trying to kill you, i don't care.
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November 29th, 2011, 02:19 PM | #43 | |
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anyways I cant think of anything in my work place that I would be forced to go against my religious convictions.
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Some of the commentary by atheists elsewhere on the net has been that "He should wear it because its just a sticker. " Then they go on to say, "But they shouldn't be allowed to make me wear a 'Jesus Loves Me' sticker."
Why not? Its just a sticker, right? Clearly the management is just messing with this guy in the video. But you can only mess with people's religion so much before they kick you in the arse.
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November 29th, 2011, 10:19 PM | #46 | ||
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It's like people that believe atheists are only using science. There's a million different versions of atheism too. We shouldn't lump any group of people into one category. There's soooo many things that people would say no to. Some guys wouldn't wear "I'm gay", some black people wouldn't wear "I love the KKK", some jews wouldn't wear "Heil hitler", some women wouldn't wear sweatshop brandname jeans. whatever. We are all allowed to choose as long as it doesn't endanger people. We all have the right to choose what goes on our body and represents us. If I take a job at Tim Hortons, I am in required to wear their uniform but I would not agree to wear a sticker that said "kill kittens." I'm not on the guy's side OR the boss's side, I just think it could have been handled better. People are so eager to take a stand for or against that sometimes we forget that we can agree to disagree and no one gets hurt. It would go a long way to stop people who are paranoid of "the other". What do you expect, I'm from Canada. We TRY to let people flaunt their beliefs but draw the line at pushing their beliefs on others. Not just religion but anything. Live and let live. |
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November 29th, 2011, 10:21 PM | #47 | |
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November 30th, 2011, 06:31 AM | #48 | |
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However, there is a difference between 'offensive' stickers and anti-religious stickers. There are lots of stickers that I would find offensive, but stickers that attack ones religion are a different matter. In this case, the guy in the video wasn't just offended, he honestly believed that if he wore that sticker, that he would go to Hell. That's totally different from a black guy who's offended by working at Kirk's Kernel Kingdom (KKK) and wearing their logo on his work shirt. But say I took a job working for a muslim group and they wanted me to wear a 'I love Mohamed' sticker. I would be offended, because I'm not muslim, but at the same time, it wouldn't carry any religious significance to me so I would probably wear it to keep my job. But if they wanted me to wear a 'I hate Jesus' or 'I hate Jews' sticker, then that would have religious significance and I would refuse to wear it.
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November 30th, 2011, 10:37 AM | #49 | |
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November 30th, 2011, 11:13 AM | #50 |
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Im confused by your posts Alex since no one in this thread has said anything mean or even been confrontational?
This has been one of the nicest discussions of a "hot" topic that Ive seen...
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Just remember all atheists are not alike. I get kinda flippy when anyone is put into a people bucket. I have a born again christian uncle who is NOT a christian in my eyes and I know Wiccas who follow the good people rules better than some christians or muslims. We are all human so one giant swarm. No carbon copies no matter what the title. There's a cool rabbi who talks about how it could be that all of us are saying the same thing but we use different roads to get there. I like that. That's one thing about the jewish faith that I wish would spill over into all faith and non faith people...The idea that it's GOOD to wonder and ask questions. Quote:
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No one ever expects people of strong faith to "change their minds" but some of us did. Same path different result. Even Einstein followers may have to rethink speed of light soon. Kinda exciting. It's totally cool eh? Some forums have trolls or a bunch of 'too cool' kids, this one has a nice mix of everyone. Hope it never changes. |
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December 1st, 2011, 11:20 PM | #53 | |
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Curiouser and curiouser. Did you mean to say you wouldn't be offended by an I love muslims, I love Obama sticker? Wandering off topic again ...is it true that some people in the US thought Obama was a Muslim? Nevermind, politics may make our happy discussion fly off the rails. |
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December 2nd, 2011, 05:33 AM | #54 | |
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I said that I would be offended by being forced to wear an "I love mohamed" sticker, but that I would wear it to keep my job. I would be offended because it wouldn't be true in my case, not because of any religious significance.
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There's the difference in both our cases, we would prefer not to wear certain sentiments, me because it would be inaccurate and you because you would find it offensive because of your religion. But we'd both be stuck wearing a McDonalds hat if we worked there. Now, my friend, we get to the REAL burning issue: When I put the reindeer antlers, red nose and big red tail bow on my Ninja, do you think people will try to run me over or stay 10 yards back because they think I'm a nut job? |
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December 2nd, 2011, 10:47 PM | #56 |
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"If youre 555 them im 666" - Slipknot
lol I listen to metal too but ive recently started to listening to more positive metal/hardcore. Ive always have listened to a mix...
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Maybe "I like Mohamed Ali the Boxer".
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December 3rd, 2011, 03:27 PM | #59 |
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Christmas was originally a pagan holiday. I still celebrate it but I dont really get into that whole with out Christ there is no Christmas debate. Im fine with celebrating the birth of Christ on Christmas, but I acknowledge that he wasnt really born then and its just a representative birthday...
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thats inaccurate. lol
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Woohoo!! It's turning of the season, death and rebirth, end of a season, beginning of a new one, time for different people to celebrate their history/religion, time for others to take a few minutes to hang with their family, put things in order for the new year..etc etc. Time for crow-people like me to oogle over shiny lights and pretty things. Don't like shopping and don't buy a bunch of crap but I do have a nice get-together with friends and family. Also I don't need a holiday to eat like a pig. Each seasonal change means a lots to me but most of all it represents time to slow down and be thankful that I'm alive. Time for some people to say Bah, Humbug. C'mon Mr. Jiggles, ignore the commercial crap and get out there and just enjoy the fact that you're here, you've got food and shelter and people that give a sheet. Turn off the TV if it's getting to you, take a ride, relaaaaxxxxx, chill. Go get a massage. I think if I was good friends with you, I would make it my #1 mission to make you laugh your arse off. You need it. WRT heavy metal, listen to Disturbed if you want heavy with a message instead of storytelling like other musicians. Wonder why we accept stories from other music genres yet with metal, it's like the story in a song is assumed to be reflective of the band's personal feelings?? Glad Shakespeare and Stephen King don't get that treatment. |
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I wish I could but only at holidays can we take time off work to get together. You're lucky.
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I hate @Jiggles and think he is an egotistical ass. but thats just me. I hate white people in general...
oh how far we have strayed from the satan talk... but its depresses me anyways...
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