July 17th, 2012, 02:16 PM | #201 |
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July 17th, 2012, 02:36 PM | #202 |
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I had to lane split on my second day on the bike. There was a car flipped over on the highway and 101 was backed up ~2 miles. Stood in traffic for a few minutes and then everybody started giving me weird looks, like why I wasn't splitting. Decided to go with it and saved sooooo much time. Stalled once though, when a truck blocked me and I stopped, forgot to downshift, and tried to start in 3rd. It was embarrassing.
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July 17th, 2012, 02:43 PM | #203 |
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I'm actually glad that lane splitting isn't allowed here in Ohio. If it was I know that I would do it, I've already flirted with it a few times, and it just seems far to risky.
As for the pic of the cruiser with two cars on it. It seems to me that the rider wasn't looking at his mirrors, and didn't leave himself and out. I mean it looks like he was sitting in the middle of the lane I ALWAYS LEAVE MYSELF AN OUT when stopped. I have no problem lane splitting, jumping over curbs, or whatever to avoid a situation like that. |
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July 17th, 2012, 03:27 PM | #205 |
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Lane splitting is like everything else on a bike, risk management and situational awareness. If something feels unsafe, then legal or not you shouldn't do it. It's not legal where I live and I don't, so take my opinion for what it is, but I definitely feel like there are situations where it would be perfectly safe, and sometimes possibly safer. I always prefer to have the greatest number of options.
And as far as always leaving an out: No battle plan survives contact with the enemy (i.e. cagers). Sometimes there are things you just can't expect or plan for.
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July 17th, 2012, 04:32 PM | #206 | |
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I keep wanting to split more, but hold myself back because I don't want to be that guy. In heat like today though, it's almost excusable. |
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July 17th, 2012, 05:34 PM | #207 | |
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I've been commuting 44 miles every day for the last 2 years (almost). I've put about 17k on my bike and nearly all of those miles were splitting lanes. I've had 3-4 near misses, 1 that could have been a total nightmare. I still do it to this day. I lane split in the rain too.
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Lane splitting is dangerous. So is riding a motorcycle. Everyone has their own level of comfort and they should stick to that. My commute home is usually 30-40 minutes. If I was to wait in traffic, that time would easily be doubled on normal days. When you have the odd days with accidents or something else, it triples that number. I thank God every day that I can lane split. I generally follow a few rules for myself. 1. I only split if traffic is under the speed limit. 2. I only split up to 5 mph faster than traffic. 3. I always scan ahead and consider which cars are possibly looking to change lanes. I've been driving for 20 years and you get a sense of what other people will do in traffic. If you learn to read those signs, it will make biking safer for you, even if you don't split lanes. I think the other thing is that in CA, we have HOV/ carpool lanes and motorcycles are allowed in them. This makes it a little bit safer to lane split because people driving on their own don't usually try to merge into the carpool lane. I'm generally more aware of drivers who need to merge out of the HOV lane or just after freeway on ramps because people may want to merge in. Learn the traffic patterns and you can cut your drive time down, with or without lane splitting.
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July 17th, 2012, 05:57 PM | #208 |
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Can't say that cagers here in cali are nice first-hand (you know, with no bike and all), but whenever I observe riders lane-splitting, it always seems as though everyone recognizes him and makes room. I personally make room for riders who lane split, and so does everyone else I know. Plus, the waves I get from happy riders make my day haha
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July 17th, 2012, 06:37 PM | #209 |
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Lane split legally for the first time last weekend while heading from San Diego up to Anaheim (Disneyland!!!). With my wife on the back. Under 35mph, and less than 10mph over what the traffic is doing, it's safer than sitting between the drivers. Didn't have any significant issues, other than getting buzzed by a BMW K1600GTL rider who apparently thought I wasn't going fast enough between the cars. Every time the traffic started rolling again, I moved back over into the lane... no problems.
I did it for years in DC, once I figured out that in 'parking lot' traffic, there isn't anything a police cruiser can do anyway. Basically I was sitting in 95* heat and the temp gauge on the bike hit 236*. My options were lane split and get some air flowing on the radiators, or cook my nuts, since there wasn't any place to pull over for about 2 miles on that section of 395. I chose option 1 . After seeing it work very well in Iraq (of all places) and Korea, it just makes sense. There's all this wasted space between the cars where a bike could simply filter to the front and lessen the congestion. One of those things that makes sense when you think about it, but many can't get past the "You're gonna DIIEEEEEE!!!" safety-nanny nonsense.
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July 17th, 2012, 10:46 PM | #211 |
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I was mainly referring to your blanket statement: "Here in the US the cagers do NOT respect bikes." Since CA is part of the US, I can't say I'd agree.
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July 17th, 2012, 11:16 PM | #212 |
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I can't imagine life without lane splitting. It'd make my commute to San Diego and LA a lot longer and much less fun. Do I think it's real safe? No, not really, but I'm for it.
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July 18th, 2012, 05:50 AM | #213 |
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Gotta remember that California is practically it's own country, with a very separate culture from the rest of the US in a lot of respects Take that as you will...
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July 18th, 2012, 06:54 AM | #214 |
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And Northern CA and Southern CA are like two separate states... lol
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July 18th, 2012, 11:56 AM | #215 |
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July 19th, 2012, 06:43 PM | #218 |
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It should be legal. But only saying that because after telling myself I wouldn't, I did it anyway in stop and go traffic. Wouldn't feel comfortable doing it at any higher speed though.
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July 23rd, 2012, 08:43 AM | #219 |
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When the highway is a parking lot I will lane split. That's the only time lane splitting should be used anyway.
It's funny because in some places in Europe you can fail your motorcycle license if you don't lane split. It's not only legal, it's recognized as being safer to the extent that you need to do it to get a license. Regardless of whether it's officially legal or not, I will still do it. In many places police are trained on motorcycles, and they won't care if you split. The only thing highway police care about usually is speeding. I've done it in almost all 50 states and never got a ticket once. My friend got a ticket for it in Boston I think, but it was a really minor cost - less then 100$ and no points. Considering how much time it saves when the highway is a parking lot it's just a risk I'm willing to take. The hundreds of times I do it is worth the 100$ or so on the off chance I get caught. |
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July 23rd, 2012, 10:28 AM | #220 |
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I've been talking with my local rep, to ease restrictions on lane splitting.
he seems to be on board but its not the most important thing on his plate. |
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July 23rd, 2012, 11:12 AM | #221 | |
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Lane splitting when the highway is a parking lot is much safer then any of those activities, so I don't feel bad doing it. |
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July 23rd, 2012, 11:40 AM | #222 | |
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not enough riders around here care about it. eta: we just passed having two riders abreast, but not a car and a motorcycle. |
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July 25th, 2012, 07:03 PM | #223 |
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I think it should be legal in any state. Sure there are certain times when it is not appropriate, however, there are a great many times it can benefit all traffic, not just to guy on the bike (though he benefits most). Personally I'd only be comfortable in lighter traffic or at stoplights.
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January 16th, 2013, 06:49 PM | #224 |
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There's been some progress on this in California. A committee of motorcycle groups, CHP, and state government transportation folks, have come up with some clear guidelines for lanesplitting/lanesharing. These have already been posted up on the CHP site.
Link to thread describing committee's work on BARF Bullet point version: http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitting.html More detailed version: http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html This doesn't mean any more (or less) laws, and doesn't mean any new CVC codes. It just makes it that much clearer to a number of different constituents, making it that much less likely that treatment of lanesplitting by law enforcement will be as variable as it is now. There are also efforts to publicize this information to drivers at large, including in the DMV driver handbooks and even over other media outlets. Some threads of our very own @Jiggles dealing with the variability across LEO's: Thread 1, Thread 2
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Even though it's not legal here my basic rule of thumb is; Do I feel safe? If the answer is no, then whether it's legal or not, I'm doing whatever I can to make myself feel safe again.
So like the other week when I got behind a salt truck that dumped salt onto the road ever bump he went over. I didn't feel safe there, because it was a fairly twisty road and I had a car up my ass. So the next straight I had, I passed him illegally. I'd rather try to fight a ticket than die.
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January 16th, 2013, 06:56 PM | #226 |
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i do it every single day, multiple times a day.
Hell just earlier today i was behind a cop on a motorcycle, he was lane splitting without lights/sirens and i followed lol. He ended up in the right lane, i ended up in the left..i did teh secret wave, he did a "normal" wave and made a right and i kept goin. |
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January 16th, 2013, 09:08 PM | #228 |
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Yep only times I've ever been pulled over in my life was for splitting. I still split past cops, none of them care
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February 3rd, 2013, 10:25 AM | #232 |
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February 3rd, 2013, 10:50 AM | #233 |
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It's good if people are responsible about it, but I've seen so many irresponsible riders in my area I feel like although it would benefit me it'd end up being more trouble for everyone else. There have been a few times where I've been kind of boxed in and see a gap I can split through and checked for cops and went for it just because it was the safer alternative to being surrounded. It does baffle me though that only ONE state in the US allows lane splitting, and it's the one that is most strict about vehicles in general.
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That's why you don't pull over for the police. Fold your plate and run.
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I always thought it would be interesting to see a ninja 250 attempt to out run the police. As soon as our speed tops out it's just a matter of time until they catch up unless there are a lot of nearby side roads lol.
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