July 10th, 2012, 07:18 PM | #1 |
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How hot does your bike run in hot weather
Now that the weather is warming up I was wondering how hot most pre-gen ninjettes run in hot weather. During the cooler months my bike has always run in the lower third to quarter of the operating range on the temp. gauge.
Since fully enclosing the front end of my bike it has begun running hotter, on hot days (~100*F.) getting almost to the upper limit of the temp. gauge operating range. I have opened up the air intake in front of my fairing but its still running in the upper third of the gauge range. I don't want to increase the internal airflow more than it is needed for adequate cooling so I was wondering what other ninjettes typically run at in the summer time. thank you, GA |
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July 10th, 2012, 07:33 PM | #2 |
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my experience has been different since i got the thermobob.
it has been consistently running at 190-200, according to my datalogs. |
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July 10th, 2012, 07:46 PM | #3 |
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During the summer, my bike runs with the temp needle at about the 11:00 or 11:30 position, which is a little under 100 degrees C, according to procal. At long stoplights, it tends to edge up to 12:00 and push a little over 100 degrees C. During the winter, it's way lower, so I cover 1/3-1/2 of the radiator with cardboard, depending on how cold it is outside. Works like a charm to get that temp needle to about 10:30 or 11:00. The bike always seems to be more responsive to the throttle when it stays up at temp. Nothing like a rich bike that gets put out in the cold. Power!
A thermobob would be nice in the winter to get it to temp quickly and keep it there. hmmmmm winter project maybe. Posted via Mobile Device |
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July 10th, 2012, 07:56 PM | #4 | |
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before i installed it, my temp stickers never got above 150f. |
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July 10th, 2012, 08:46 PM | #5 |
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I live in Texas, and last summer it was 105+ for the whole summer. The lil Ninja ran strong. I can count on one hand the amout of times the fan would come on.
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July 10th, 2012, 08:50 PM | #6 |
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mine runs like a champ in hot weather
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July 10th, 2012, 09:04 PM | #7 |
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Thanks for all your replies, It looks like I need to greatly increase the airflow through the radiator as I have a 2500 mile road trip from here in the SF Bay Area to the MidOhio Racetrack for a fuel economy competition. The trip there will be through lots of desert in CA, NV, UTand WY and the rest of the way doesn't look to be a lot cooler.
I'll change my coolant but I don't think that will make much difference. I'll probably just open up the area covering my headlight and then reinstall it for the fuel economy run. Many thanks, GA |
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July 10th, 2012, 10:42 PM | #8 |
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My bike runs with the temperature needle at about the 11:00 position on the highway, but at long stop light it climbs almost to the 13:00 position - about 2mm away from the white line.
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July 11th, 2012, 02:57 AM | #9 |
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Greenaero, what exactly does a fuel economy competition look like? If you're at mid Ohio the ninjette and I might consider saying hi if we can. I'm getting some 15/45 sprockets, so highway travel might actually be doable for me haha depends how my lung is doing if I feel comfortable going that far. When is your competition?
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July 11th, 2012, 03:25 AM | #10 |
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My gauge goes from one end to the other with my riding all the time. I've only heard the fan get turned on once though and it was after I had parked it.
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July 11th, 2012, 03:25 PM | #12 |
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Mine did that once too, and Mine feels like GREAT BALLS OF FIRE in the summer time
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July 11th, 2012, 03:28 PM | #13 |
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Get on a 600 and you will understand hot, its not even funny. My 250 felt like an ice box compared to bigger bikes. My gauge will hit 216f if I'm sitting at a light too long
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July 11th, 2012, 03:30 PM | #15 |
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no lol But I havent been in traffic for super long, 175 was the hottest I have seen. Its running retardedly cool
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July 11th, 2012, 03:32 PM | #16 |
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it was running retardedly hot before. it should never get above boiling in a normal system.
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July 11th, 2012, 03:33 PM | #17 |
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216 is sadly normal for these bike, fan doesnt even kick in till 214, over heating is 224+ and the bike will shut its self off
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July 11th, 2012, 03:35 PM | #18 |
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yeah... but... it shouldnt overheat normally. the fan shouldn't need to kick on. i think most engines are designed to run arouund 170-180
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July 11th, 2012, 03:40 PM | #19 |
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Agreed, but the 636 is notorious for heating up
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July 11th, 2012, 04:00 PM | #20 |
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Is there anyhting we can do to keep the bike running cooler? A specific kind of antifreeze or antifreeze water mix?
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July 11th, 2012, 04:09 PM | #21 |
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July 11th, 2012, 04:11 PM | #22 |
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Engine ice is ok, but I wont ever put it in my bike again. Water wetter all the way! Ive had great results with it, even racing in 105+ degree weather it keeps my bike cool
But it freezes, so for everyone that isnt in California will have to change there coolant as it gets colder
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July 11th, 2012, 04:17 PM | #24 | |
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July 11th, 2012, 04:23 PM | #25 |
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Engine ice? The **** is so expensive! And I saw NO gain with it, and you cant mix water into it (unless im remembering wrong)
I run straight distilled water half of the time, thats whats in there now
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ill most likely stick with the standard coolant, until i start doing track days. |
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July 11th, 2012, 04:54 PM | #27 |
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get the non pre-mixed water wetter, $9, will last you the life of your bike. Ive changed mine out 5 or 6 times now and have over half a bottle left
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July 11th, 2012, 05:03 PM | #28 |
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July 11th, 2012, 05:06 PM | #29 |
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July 11th, 2012, 05:08 PM | #30 |
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July 11th, 2012, 05:09 PM | #31 |
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same lol So instead of 15-$20 a coolant change with the premix its like $.5 a change with the concentrate
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July 11th, 2012, 08:17 PM | #32 |
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Eh, I use engine ice cuz I have to worry about the engine freezing in winter. I don't notice any difference between it and the normal green coolant except color.
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July 12th, 2012, 10:21 PM | #33 |
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Chris, The Vetter Challenge will be on the morning of July 20 at the Mid-Ohio Racetrack. It will be part of the AMA Vintage Days group ride. If you think you'll make it, let me know. I should be in Ohio by 7/18 or 7/19.
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July 13th, 2012, 04:34 AM | #34 |
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Well crap, that's a weekday.
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July 30th, 2012, 04:54 PM | #35 |
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What is the % of mix of coolant to water in a bike?
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July 30th, 2012, 04:59 PM | #37 |
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50/50
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