Dude, I had to lay it down

[nickjpass]

My bad. I'll lay my bike down tomorrow.

[Mountain Dew]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

God damn Jiggles, I love that file name. Saw it when I went to share it with my moto group so we could laugh at this guy (not because he crashed, but because of what he's saying).

[Jiggles]

lol

Man all these Ethio helmet clones are confusing me, I thought you were that other guy at first

[Aggrotech]

I had almost the same situation happen earlier. Traffic was goin about 30, i goin slightly less then that when the guy in front of me decided to hard brake (for no goddamn reason,) Gradually i applied both brakes with more pressure on the front ofc, Stopped with a good foot to spare. Dude didnt move forward at all, traffic on my right stopped aswell. I moved my bike to the right of the vehicle to ask wtf his problem was. Girl said she panicked, i asked over what and she said cos she noticed a dog on the opposite side of the road (2lanes + the sidewalk)...i was like LOLWUT FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Miles_Prower]

i had this happen on Saturday. It was my fault, I was looking over at a friend and trying to say something real quick and then when I looked forward traffic had stopped completely. I also only had one hand on the bars. I STILL managed to do an e-stop, nearly lifting the back end up.

Highly recommend taking time every week to practice emergency stops, it helps so much. I've been practicing doing e-stops after a sharp turn as well, that helps a ton in the confidence/muscle memory departments.
Don't lay your bike down. Bro.

edit: Oh yeah, and in my e-stop I didn't use rear brake at all. Just as a note.

[Old Lemon]

Originally Posted by Mountain Dew

God damn Jiggles, I love that file name. Saw it when I went to share it with my moto group so we could laugh at this guy (not because he crashed, but because of what he's saying).

I'm glad I could bring enjoyment to you guys

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

ill see your disagreeal and raise you a video

Link to original page on YouTube.

long story short; i was looking in blind spot, cagers slowed down, looked back forward, had to lay er down

lesson learned: drive faster, dont look back, and split between the cars.

[xSean13]

Originally Posted by menikmati

Should've been looking for an exit route towards the left of the SUV as soon as you saw their signal go on. It also helps to keep track of the cars ahead of the one closest to you so you can survey the traffic situation and prepare to squeeze the brakes.

Exactly what I was thinking. If they're changing lanes to the right, shift to the left-most lane position. I've made stops quicker than that without even locking it up.

[aShifty]

Originally Posted by alex.s

lesson learned: drive faster, dont look back, and split between the cars.

EXACTLYYY!! works for me...

even though i feel like a douche when i split

[Miles_Prower]

i dont know why i wanted to say this randomly but..

Wocka wocka wocka!!

[ally99]

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

Michael, how long have you been riding on the street? You were going too fast for traffic and even seeing the cars in front braking you still continue to carry your speed. It doesn't help that you were in a low gear so engine breaking is nonefficient.

Could have saved it by going left but looked like in the video you had no choice but to dump it. Practice setting your speed/gear and looking for exit strategy. Always look at traffic at least 5 cars ahead of your direction of travel.

Originally Posted by R1Chronicles

Change your mindset quickly and get better, if you think you had to lay that down, four wheels might be better for you bro.

I'm not being nice for a reason!

Sorry, man. I don't usually chime in on posts like this, but both of the above points were spot on. That was savable and you did not have to lay it down. My observations? Your first mistake was accelerating in congested traffic. Second was not getting on the brake as soon as you saw the brake lights of both vehicles in front of you. Third, you had time to slow down a LOT if you had started sooner, and you could have probably even veered into that wide open space to the left!
So yeah, looking farther ahead and quicker reaction times could have saved your ass on this one. Glad you weren't seriously hurt though!

[alex.s]

you non-californians have it all wrong. brake lights mean go FASTER!

[ally99]

Originally Posted by alex.s

lesson learned: drive faster, dont look back, and split between the cars.

Oh, and hell yes.

[seanshawnS]

Frame Sliders? If so then congrats, I never understand why people put those on their bikes if they don't plan on using them

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by seanshawnS

Frame Sliders? If so then congrats, I never understand why people put those on their bikes if they don't plan on using them

You shouldn't wear a helmet if you don't plan on using it

[Old Lemon]

Originally Posted by seanshawnS

Frame Sliders? If so then congrats, I never understand why people put those on their bikes if they don't plan on using them

no frame sliders for me. i dont wany my bike flipping around

[Little Green Machine]

What were you on, marbles?

[Old Lemon]

i was about to change lanes, and started to lean over to do so before i turned my head back forward.

[ryan.chin]

Does anyone have a problem where if they're making a sharp turn, the front of their foot hits the ground? It's happened a few times to me and it freaked me out a bit.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by ryan.chin

Does anyone have a problem where if they're making a sharp turn, the front of their foot hits the ground? It's happened a few times to me and it freaked me out a bit.

Balls of feet on pegs, problem solved

[ryan.chin]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Balls of feet on pegs, problem solved

Trying to upshift in the turn?

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by ryan.chin

Trying to upshift in the turn?

Don't do that silly

[ryan.chin]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Don't do that silly

[Jiggles]

Well one if you **** up your shift and apply too much or not enough power to the rear wheel then you will lowside.

Either shift to second before initiating the turn or pin it to 13k all the way through the turn.

Or crash, w/e floats your boat

[ryan.chin]

Hmph.

[seanshawnS]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

You shouldn't wear a helmet if you don't plan on using it

[sc37]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Don't do that silly

Thats one of the things I didnt get in the MSF class. They had us practice upshifting in the turns compared to all the reading Ive done online which makes it seem like a no-no. I asked about it and the instructor said that its a normal everyday street riding skill, but might be different on the track.

[seanshawnS]

Originally Posted by sc37

Thats one of the things I didnt get in the MSF class. They had us practice upshifting in the turns compared to all the readi.g Ive done online. I asked about it and the instructor said that its a normal everyday street riding skill, but might be different on the track.

Same thing in mine. Shifting from first to second early in the turn then applying emergency braking about halfway through the turn.

[Lychee]

You were probably not at as high a lean angle in the MSF. If your angle is high enough to drag toe, adding throttle or shifting may not be the best idea. Saving it for the drive out of the turn, when more traction is available, could be safer as well as faster throughout the turn. Are you also apexing early?

The video shows that the driver was signaling a right lane change. Was the rider looking to cut off the driver from making the lane change to the right? That is how I see it anyway. If a claim is being filed I hope the insurance company never sees this footage.

[matha028]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

No dude, you didn't.

It's a common phrase in the motorcycling world "I had to lay it down or else blah blah blah would have happened" but what it really means is "I do not posses the confidence nor ability to properly ride a motorcycle" When people panic and don't know what to do, they lay it down. If you think the plastic of your bike and your skin scraping across the ground is going to slow you down faster than rubber on asphalt then maybe you should start driving one of those Flinstones cars. If you think giving up all control over the situation is the best answer then, then, then I don't even know what to say because of how stupid that statement is.

Hey mister know it all! Since you were there at my incident I'm sure you know all about it. Oh that's right you weren't. I do possess the skills needed to ride a bike. And no skin scraped thanks to the fact that I wear gear. Since the roads were wet I wasn't going to stop like u speak of, when the asshole ran the red light. but as for that night laying my bike down and sliding away from it, saved my life! Nothing you say will ever change that. Had I chosen to stay upright I would have been T-Boned in the middle of the intersection and would have certainly lost a leg at the very least, which would have caused me to lose my job/career! Or I would have hit the side of his car and flown into/over it. Who knows. But I could have died. Where as choosing to lay it down and slide away from it, I stood up and walked away from it. So that being said, don't ever tell me that laying a bike down is not an option. It saved my life!

[Jiggles]

@matha028 If you really think that is true then post your full story.

Did you end up hitting the car after you bailed?

[matha028]

I did not after I slid away. But my bike did hit the side of the car. And there is no reason to tell the whole story again. I don't need your approval that what I did was right. In fact I really don't give a crap about your opinion.

[menikmati]

Oh noes.

[Old Lemon]

sometimes.....you just gotta lay er down

[jdv5074]

Originally Posted by matha028

I did not after I slid away. But my bike did hit the side of the car. And there is no reason to tell the whole story again. I don't need your approval that what I did was right. In fact I really don't give a crap about your opinion.

sheeshh

[Mountain Dew]

Unless you're some kind of demi-god and can manipulate the laws of physics...



Just admit it, you braked improperly and laid it down, we won't judge you (unless you fervently insist that you slid away from the direction you were already traveling in).

[ForceofWill]

Pro Tip: If you slid on the ground and stopped before hitting the object, you could have stopped the bike upright in time.

[Jiggles]

Pop quiz, which do you think is greater? The static coefficient of friction on rubber tires and the street or the dynamic coefficient of friction on leather and the street.

I mean, if skidding leather stopped faster than non skidding rubber, don't you think the world might explode because thats impossible?

Admit your mistake and learn from it so you don't foolishly jump off your bike the next time it happens

[Aufitt]

Massive inattention, mashed the front brake, wheel folded under, noob down.

That vid is so full win, thanks for sharing.

[dirty nasty]

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

ill see your disagreeal and raise you a video

Link to original page on YouTube.

long story short; i was looking in blind spot, cagers slowed down, looked back forward, had to lay er down

I did the same thing, but with even less space/time to react, greater speed, and I guarantee on worse tires and brake pads. You panicked and crashed. When I did the same thing I was on both brakes and engine braking like a mad man. I came close to rear ending the guy, but I've still yet to crash my bike on the street.

I really think it should be a requirement that all street bike riders grow up on MX bikes first. I've saved myself from countless situations that would have riders who aren't used to the bike getting out of control doing the same thing you did, or worse.