To dyno or not to dyno

OldGuy · May 9th, 2009, 02:29 PM

Stopped by the local dealership this afternoon while putting miles on the bike (needed to get over that 600 mile barrier) and noticed they are having a big bike show and sale next weekend.

One of their offers is a free dyno run with any purchase over $25. Talked with my "inside man" and apparently they just got a new dyno and want to promote it.

I was going to buy some new Diadora Avenue 2 boots they have and I can always use some new gloves.

I'm sure it is not going to be the data detail you might get when buying a full dyno but . . .

Question - anybody see any problem with a dyno run on bike with just over 600 miles? If not I figured get something Saturday make a run, shim the needles Saturday night and go up Sunday for another purchase and run just to see what the dyno says.

kkim · May 9th, 2009, 03:05 PM

good question... did you ask them the same question?

HKr1 · May 9th, 2009, 03:10 PM

Shouldnt be a problem. Personally I like the 1000 mile mark, for the do what ever point.

Wish we would have put the bikes on the dyno last year, these folks were doing the same. 25 bucks a run < no purchase thou. We stopped in and watch some of the stunt show, I just couldnt take being out(waiting for sugery date then) had to go home. Kinda sad, this place is gone now

Snake · May 9th, 2009, 03:50 PM

I think it's a good idea to do a dyno run before you do any mods so you can have a baseline comparison. Then when you do your mods you know if there was an inprovement or not. Much better than the old "but dyno".

kkim · May 9th, 2009, 04:13 PM

I think his concern is putting the bike on the dyno w/ less than 600 miles on it.

OldGuy · May 9th, 2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kkim

I think his concern is putting the bike on the dyno w/ less than 600 miles on it.

Oh contrae mon capitain - 606 miles

OldGuy · May 9th, 2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

good question... did you ask them the same question?

Hey I want the truth

I'll check with them next week.

TnNinjaGirl · May 9th, 2009, 07:54 PM

If you make sure the bike is properly warmed up and is given a short ride around to return to normal operating temperature just to be safe, you should be ok. It's like that one time you have to get on it to avoid traffic while on the street. If it doesn't blow your motor then and there (which they'd have to fix anyways) the worst it'll do is knock off 1,000 miles from when you need a rebuild.

Cali619 · May 9th, 2009, 07:58 PM

has the oil and filter been changed already? If not maybe that would be something you can do before getting the bike to red line.

OldGuy · May 9th, 2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TnNinjaGirl

If you make sure the bike is properly warmed up and is given a short ride around to return to normal operating temperature just to be safe, you should be ok. It's like that one time you have to get on it to avoid traffic while on the street. If it doesn't blow your motor then and there (which they'd have to fix anyways) the worst it'll do is knock off 1,000 miles from when you need a rebuild.

Good advice Corey Beth - I'll be sure it is back up to temp before when put it on the dyno - oh wait we don't have a temp gauge any more

I'll be sure it's back up to temp.

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Originally Posted by Cali619

has the oil and filter been changed already? If not maybe that would be something you can do before getting the bike to red line.

Changed the oil and filter at 250 so even if I ride every night after work the most the oil will have on it is ~600 miles.

almost40 · May 10th, 2009, 07:22 AM

Run it if you feel the need. You changed the oil, change it again, and then run it. It wont hurt. It might even help a little with the with the rings.

Cochese · May 11th, 2009, 12:25 AM

It'll be fine. I Dyno'ed mine with 189 miles.

...and an oil change before and after...

OldGuy · May 17th, 2009, 05:23 PM

I'll post up a pdf of the results tomorrow when I get to work. Nothing exciting. Two runs; 27.59 hp & 27.68 hp. Both show peak HP at ~ 10.3K rpm and tailing off after that. Pure stock.

Cochese · May 17th, 2009, 06:02 PM

Here is mine...

At 5,280 feet ~ of elevation.

K&N pods, FP Stage 3 Jet kit, airbox delete, kleen air delete, Area P header, GSXR exhaust.

Max power 27.56 - Torque 13.51

Stock, 23.60 - Torque 12.32

Conditions were much more favorable on the stock run at 57 F. On the second run with the mods, it was 3 weeks later, 81 F.

May 9th, 2009, 02:29 PM	#1
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	To dyno or not to dyno Stopped by the local dealership this afternoon while putting miles on the bike (needed to get over that 600 mile barrier) and noticed they are having a big bike show and sale next weekend. One of their offers is a free dyno run with any purchase over $25. Talked with my "inside man" and apparently they just got a new dyno and want to promote it. I was going to buy some new Diadora Avenue 2 boots they have and I can always use some new gloves. I'm sure it is not going to be the data detail you might get when buying a full dyno but . . . Question - anybody see any problem with a dyno run on bike with just over 600 miles? If not I figured get something Saturday make a run, shim the needles Saturday night and go up Sunday for another purchase and run just to see what the dyno says. __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

May 9th, 2009, 07:58 PM	#9
Cali619 Giggity Giggity Name: Ryam Location: San Diego Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250R aka Hiryu Posts: 481	has the oil and filter been changed already? If not maybe that would be something you can do before getting the bike to red line. __________________________________________________ Facebook DY Fender chop, Danmoto CB slip-on w/baffle, Airbox removed, Kleen-air removed, shimmed needles, Mikuni #117.5 Main jets, K&N RU-1822 air filter pods

May 10th, 2009, 07:22 AM	#11
almost40 ninjette.org Monkey Spank Name: Kevin Location: Illinois Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.	Run it if you feel the need. You changed the oil, change it again, and then run it. It wont hurt. It might even help a little with the with the rings. __________________________________________________ Black 250R Full Area P QC Dyno Jet Kit 100 main 41T Rear Sprocket

May 17th, 2009, 05:23 PM	#13
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	Dyno Results I'll post up a pdf of the results tomorrow when I get to work. Nothing exciting. Two runs; 27.59 hp & 27.68 hp. Both show peak HP at ~ 10.3K rpm and tailing off after that. Pure stock. __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

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May 9th, 2009, 03:05 PM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	good question... did you ask them the same question?

May 9th, 2009, 03:10 PM	#3
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Shouldnt be a problem. Personally I like the 1000 mile mark, for the do what ever point. Wish we would have put the bikes on the dyno last year, these folks were doing the same. 25 bucks a run < no purchase thou. We stopped in and watch some of the stunt show, I just couldnt take being out(waiting for sugery date then) had to go home. Kinda sad, this place is gone now

May 9th, 2009, 03:50 PM	#4
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	I think it's a good idea to do a dyno run before you do any mods so you can have a baseline comparison. Then when you do your mods you know if there was an inprovement or not. Much better than the old "but dyno".

May 9th, 2009, 04:13 PM	#5
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I think his concern is putting the bike on the dyno w/ less than 600 miles on it.

May 9th, 2009, 07:54 PM	#8
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	If you make sure the bike is properly warmed up and is given a short ride around to return to normal operating temperature just to be safe, you should be ok. It's like that one time you have to get on it to avoid traffic while on the street. If it doesn't blow your motor then and there (which they'd have to fix anyways) the worst it'll do is knock off 1,000 miles from when you need a rebuild.

May 11th, 2009, 12:25 AM	#12
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	It'll be fine. I Dyno'ed mine with 189 miles. ...and an oil change before and after...

May 17th, 2009, 06:02 PM	#14
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	Here is mine... At 5,280 feet ~ of elevation. K&N pods, FP Stage 3 Jet kit, airbox delete, kleen air delete, Area P header, GSXR exhaust. Max power 27.56 - Torque 13.51 Stock, 23.60 - Torque 12.32 Conditions were much more favorable on the stock run at 57 F. On the second run with the mods, it was 3 weeks later, 81 F.