October 25th, 2012, 04:58 PM | #41 | |
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Personally, I don't see how Honda will not introduce this bike over here. It will be the next logical step up for many of their CBR250R owners. |
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October 25th, 2012, 05:06 PM | #42 |
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This will be an interesting turf war between Kawi and Honda. It's a good time to be riding a small displacement sport bike
Seeing how all the rumors about the 300 were actually true and we thought we were just getting trolled, my mind is open to anything at this point. |
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October 25th, 2012, 05:24 PM | #43 |
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CBR500>Ninja 300
Just when Kawasaki thought they were gonna start dominating the small/middle-ish cc market again. Then here comes Honda's response. I hope this CBR500 comes to the states. Looks like a fun bike and the perfect amount of power for the streets! |
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October 25th, 2012, 05:41 PM | #44 |
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Looks good, almost too good...
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October 25th, 2012, 05:57 PM | #45 |
So, where's the reverse?
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We should all know for certain in about 3 weeks time. Expected Honda announcement on these models November 13 at the EICMA show in Milan.
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October 25th, 2012, 06:13 PM | #46 |
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This one is catching my eye too. Kind of a more sporty nc700x
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October 25th, 2012, 06:16 PM | #47 |
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there goes Jono, jumping off the Kawasaki bus again...
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October 25th, 2012, 06:21 PM | #48 |
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The more I see, the more I'm getting interested for sure. It's going to come down to the price point verses the next step up. My wife continues to think about getting her license and riding the ninjette, so I would get to have both.
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October 25th, 2012, 07:07 PM | #49 |
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October 25th, 2012, 07:14 PM | #50 |
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Yeah, but you've always liked the CBR250 better than your ninjette, sooooo that means you basically own a cibber and one dopey little Kawi sumo
You're a Honda fanboy!! GTFO!!!! jk, that new bike looks pretty nice. It would be a nice addition, just on engine size. We'll give it more judging after we know what features/power/torque/handling that it delivers. The small-medium displacement sport bike competition is turning out nicely. |
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October 25th, 2012, 07:34 PM | #51 | |
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Hey, my thoughts on that cibber are changed now. I got to really analyze it in person last month. Haha. One of my best friends, friend bought a CBR250 without his parents knowing. Parents ended up making this guy return the bike to the dealership. Haha. Anywho, this guy was storing the cibber at my friends house and I got to sit on it and stare at it for hours. Also rev'ed it up. It didn't sound bad but I didn't get to ride it, but it did look weird after looking at it for a while. But here is the biggest turn off that nobody has mentioned. The gas cap comes completely off when you unlock it!!!! Then you have to find somewhere to put it as you fill the tank. Like WTF Honda. Haha Yes, it shall be judged in the future. |
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October 25th, 2012, 09:43 PM | #52 |
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October 25th, 2012, 10:00 PM | #53 |
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Haha. Good, good.
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October 25th, 2012, 11:04 PM | #54 |
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430 lbs seems a bit on the heavy side. More than a bit.
In any case, another street bike, which offers almost nothing new over the original ninjette except more power and torque. I would like to see fully adjustable suspension, aluminium frame, clipons, and 350 lbs. Seems one can only get that with 100+ hp and a considerably higher price tag. |
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October 25th, 2012, 11:09 PM | #55 |
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Hmm...Looks alright...I could see them bringing it to the US to steal some sales from the ninja 650r (although will have to wait and see for some actual power numbers to see if its competitive), the ergos look to be a little more sporty than the 650r.
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October 26th, 2012, 03:56 AM | #56 |
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Ahem, calling Yamaha...please make a small displacement bike that looks like the R6...thanks!!! Would have to think they are watching all this hoopla and want in on the L'il bike market.
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October 26th, 2012, 04:12 AM | #57 |
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I will also be watching this one closely! A reasonably powerful sporty (but not supersport) for commuting would be welcome in my garage.
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October 26th, 2012, 04:34 AM | #58 |
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search up info on the r25.1, i think is what they're calling it. looks like a 250 with supersport ergonomics.
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October 26th, 2012, 04:40 AM | #59 |
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Yeah I saw something about it on a thread here, but nothing like the "rumors" about the possibility of the 300 or now the Honda 500. Yamaha has the 2013 line up on their Candian site no sign of a l'il bike tho. Maybe next year...
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October 26th, 2012, 07:28 AM | #60 |
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the r25.1 just might not be making it to North America, maybe too much competition in a small market for Yamaha to take the leap. All info has pointed to this cbr500 coming here though.
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October 26th, 2012, 08:07 AM | #61 | |
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Yamaha makes something just like that. Minus the clipons and 48 pounds. Yamaha WR250X. You have these were you live? Cause if so, it's what you are looking for. |
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October 26th, 2012, 08:10 AM | #62 |
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The 500 seems too big to be direct competition with the 250/300 class. If the hp is really 47 (and that's not the EU restrictions), then I wouldn't want a bigger bike to gain such small numbers; but if (as seems more likely), the American version will be more powerful, then it seems like competition for the 600/650 class.
I'm hoping for the latter option. A (probably) expensive, bigger, heavier small bike isn't exciting; but a great-looking, light-weight middleweight sounds freaking awesome. I would consider that as a second bike in addition to my 300, as something with a bit more heft and oomph for multi-day trips. |
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October 26th, 2012, 11:14 AM | #63 |
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Lol when did they stop dominating? Never?
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October 26th, 2012, 12:01 PM | #64 |
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I'm definitely interested in this bike, even more so that there should be a press release on the 13th of Nov. The weight though really turns me off
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October 26th, 2012, 12:35 PM | #65 |
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News of a CBR500 caught and maintained my curiosity once hearing about it.
I am very interested in what the final release specs will be. |
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October 26th, 2012, 12:47 PM | #66 |
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If the CBR500 is released in the US that's the bike I'd buy over the Ninja 300. And I know plenty of peeps/racers who would jump ship too. End of story!
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October 26th, 2012, 01:18 PM | #67 |
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The past year and a half. You know since that CBR250 was released. I know you think that nobody bought that little cibber but folks actually did. Honda was responsible for the Ninja 300. Without real competition I doubt Kawasaki would have updated the little ninja so quickly. Kawasaki only dominated the small displacement sport bike category for like two decades because they had no real competition. |
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October 26th, 2012, 01:28 PM | #68 | |
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If Honda drops a twin 500 that has the same supersport looks, ergos, and decent suspension on the market that costs less than the 600/RR and garners cheaper insurance rates....sales on the 600/RR will suffer. I honestly think thats why Kawasaki made the 650R so fugly. If they had stuffed that 650 engine in a ZX frame, sales on the ZX's would have suffered. |
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October 26th, 2012, 01:38 PM | #69 |
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It's so hard to get real numbers on things like that. Manufacturers don't release things publicly, at least for free, and the industry groups that release things as aggregate don't provide enough brand by brand comparisons either. But then you see things like the Sport Rider review of the new 300 this month. Read the part with the red arrow, and then try and reconcile that with what we think we know about sportbike sales in the US by brand.
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October 26th, 2012, 01:45 PM | #70 | |
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October 26th, 2012, 01:55 PM | #71 |
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Just to stir the pot some more. Single cylinder, 390cc, 45hp, 330lbs.
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The 08 model Ninja 250 was aimed at the soon to be obselete A* class licence in Europe, that's why it's 33bhp & not any higher. It was the only modern bike in the A* category for a year or 2 (until Hyodung & Honda brought out lesser 250s) Quote:
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October 26th, 2012, 01:59 PM | #73 | |
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But really, the type of consumer that would be considering something like the CBR500 would most likely not make the jump into a 600 cc supersport if Honda didn't produce a middle displacement sport bike. More likely, the rider will jump ship and look at something like the Ninja 650 or Yamaha FZ6R. The CBR500 will give loyal CBR250R riders a reason to stay with Big Red when they want to upgrade and don't need the track/race oriented design of a SS. |
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October 26th, 2012, 02:06 PM | #74 | |
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Most people don't only go for one brand when looking for a bike. They walk into a dealership that has Hondas, Kawis, and yamis. If they're looking at the 600ss, there's three options. If they're looking at 600 sports, there's only two. Honda used to have options there, not currently. I bet they realized loss of sales, and decided to build a bike that would undercut the other 600 sport options, as its a rapidly growing class. This will not be a 500cc super sport. Look at the brakes, single front means no super sport, likely no adjustable suspension. Look at the grips, theyre up like a sport, not down like a super sport. |
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October 26th, 2012, 02:27 PM | #77 | |
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Europe is their main market, it fits the capacity & power requirements for the licence itself, but the test requires >395cc. They already have 3 sizes of Duke in Europe, 0 in the US. they have 32 models of bike in the US, 46 in Europe/UK. Where do you think is getting it? |
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October 26th, 2012, 02:35 PM | #78 |
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Yamaha has the R6, and the FZ6/FZ6R.
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October 26th, 2012, 02:42 PM | #79 |
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