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Funny video, was anyone hurt?
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February 6th, 2013, 05:30 PM | #42 |
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Because "enough room to stop" assumes perfect braking technique and even then it's not a sure thing. The lane in his right was NOT slowing down or stopping. Rather the car in front of him panicked over a car entering the shoulder and hit the brakes. So if you watch the video again you'll see that there was plenty of space and speed in the #2 lane and it would have been the right thing to do.. as many others in this thread have pointed out.
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Also, I was focused on the van I wanted to make sure he wasn't going to swerve back in to me so when I saw the sedan braking it surprised me and I tried to brake too. I know the threshold of the front brake, the issue was that as I was coming close to that threshold the rear locked up cuz I hit it like an idiot. So once the bike started swerving I lost a lot of braking potential. Oh and you're close! It was 2.6 seconds
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February 6th, 2013, 07:46 PM | #50 |
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Unfortunately, there was one fatality
Idk what those are but they don't have windshields
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February 6th, 2013, 07:55 PM | #51 |
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Stop blaming the bike and just learn to use the rear brake properly... It decreases your stopping distance.
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There's been plenty of threads bickering about that Nick. Yes, it can decrease your stopping distance, but only minimally, especially when we consider how little overall effect it has and how much concentration/dexterity it takes to balance 2 wheels at the threshold of skidding to get maximum braking vs only doing that with the front wheel.
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*pretends he didn't just laugh at that*
Yeah, haha. Been there, done that. I've forgotten the clutch in a panic stop before. I think we all have/will at some point. |
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Damn, you suck at riding bro!
But, you are damn good at crashing! Keep it up Jiggles. |
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This happens to me so often it's not even funny... Tho I never actually use my rear brake, I find myself making too many "emergency" stops to be good... Also my front wheel looses traction pretty quickly... Also, my brakes suck... I blame my brakes and my reaction time I guess... Not in that order... Brakes are being completely upgraded, reaction time I dunno so much about... Practice I guess... Glad you made out ok.
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Depends on the bike, the gear the bike is in, and the speed. A 250 will restart the engine pretty much instantaneously once the rear wheel gains speed again, as there is so little mass in the engine. A big inline-4 with high compression takes quite a bit more energy to get spinning, so if you're in a high gear and the road speed is coming down, the rear wheel may never regain enough traction to spin the engine fast enough to restart smoothly before the bike comes to a stop. Slipper clutches affect this behavior as well, letting the rear wheel spin faster than the engine, and therefore not bringing the engine up to speed fast enough to restart.
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You kids with goddamn A.D.D.
Glad ur ok. I think you tensed up and had some input on the bars too. I stopped with rear sliding before. You keep riding the slide and apply front brake mostly it doesn't go that crazy or out of line unless you try to swerve while you slide the rear. Then again best to not slide the rear of course lol. |
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Has anyone ever taken the rear brake (break) off. With all this talk about not using the rear brake and how bad it is, why do these bike come with a rear brake? If you take it off then you can't use it and crash. I feel thick soled sneakers would be safer to stop in a panic situation.
If we had a crash test dummy (with a bike) we could experiment.
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i think the scariest part of jiggles situation is what would had happened if he actually broke hard enough to stop and not hit the car. whose to say the person behind him would do the same.
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A vehicle stopping in time is the only way to break the cycle. Once stopped you can still use the remaining room to go forward or around. Those options still exist and I think it's well understood that you need to look out behind you after an emergency stop.
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Holy christ man, now I understand the other thread on which bike you should get next. at least no femur snap this time
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Luckily it was titanium reinforced
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