2013 300 Pricing

[anacron]

2013 Ebony 300 bought from Mission motors for $5725 OTD. A bit high for my liking but I had money to spare so I pulled the trigger. Did some phone shopping and got an initial quote from Hollister powersports for $5600 and then called every other dealer in the Bay Area.

East Bay in Hayward offered to match the price after giving me some attitude so I decided against East Bay and went to Mission.

[Xplorguy]

Originally Posted by anacron

2013 Ebony 300 bought from Mission motors for $5725 OTD. A bit high for my liking but I had money to spare so I pulled the trigger. Did some phone shopping and got an initial quote from Hollister powersports for $5600 and then called every other dealer in the Bay Area.

East Bay in Hayward offered to match the price after giving me some attitude so I decided against East Bay and went to Mission.

How does that break down considering your CA sales taxes, licensing fees, other charges....?

[anacron]

Originally Posted by Xplorguy

How does that break down considering your CA sales taxes, licensing fees, other charges....?

I don't have the paperwork in front of me but the break down would depend on the dealer... they could rearrange the figures as they please.

For example, they could list the base price below MSRP and increase the amounts for assembly and paperwork fees. It all depends on how the dealer wants to play it but your bottom line remains the same.

The dealer and I agreed on $5725 OTD and that's exactly how much I paid (all fees included).

[antiant]

How much would a ninja 300 Non-SE cost if it had around 2,400 miles already on it? I found a guy who is trying to sell it for $5200, which I think is high, considering that I could get a brand new one for $200 more via the Costco program and 0 miles. Everything is stock and he says it's never been dropped, etc. I won't be able to take a physical look at it until Friday, maybe, if schedules do not conflict.

[anacron]

Yeah... $5200 seems a bit steep for used and 2400 miles. Closer to the $5000 mark (maybe below $5000) would be a worthwhile deal.

You should shop around a bit to see what OTD prices are with the Costco deal. If its still a couple of hundred difference (and you can afford it) then a new one might be better. You could also use that as a bargaining chip to get the guy to go down on price.

Good luck!

[Xplorguy]

Me, I like the new one idea. 2,400 miles is a long way from new. Break-in style? Service records? How many oil changes? When? Why is he selling? How did he use the bike?
If you like everything you see and here and ride it and its beautiful ...what about $4,400.....?

[antiant]

All good points. I have checked a few Costco dealerships and know what I should be paying brand new. Recently, I checked a local dealer and he wanted $6300 for the non-SE, of course, I literally told him that he was crazy and that I would go somewhere else. I've received the gamut of excuses too, "It's in high demand," "I'm already losing on this," blah blah blah. Frankly, I dgaf what your (the dealer/seller) issues are, as they don't concern me and really, why do you think I care? The sympathy/guilt trip doesn't work on me. I also checked Kelley Blue Book for used and it was giving me the price of $4,3xx, which isn't too far off from $4,400. Fortunately, I have patience and I'm willing to wait and not overpay.

[Xplorguy]

This is such a tough time of the year to find the bike you want at the price you should be able to pay. Here in Oregon nothing happens at the dealerships until early March and then they can't keep up with the right bikes (who knew when they had to place their orders months before.) So they only have so many coming in......You may have to cast your net a little farther away to find new at a fair price. Wish you well in your search and keep us posted!

[anacron]

Originally Posted by Xplorguy

This is such a tough time of the year to find the bike you want at the price you should be able to pay. Here in Oregon nothing happens at the dealerships until early March and then they can't keep up with the right bikes (who knew when they had to place their orders months before.) So they only have so many coming in......You may have to cast your net a little farther away to find new at a fair price. Wish you well in your search and keep us posted!

Yup, this was exactly my situation when I was buying. There were two other people looking at my 300 as I was doing to paperwork. So, there's really no incentive for dealers to come down drastically on prices especially during riding season and with lots of demand for the 300.

It'll be interesting to see how much they'll go for in December 2013 (if there's any still leftover).

[psych0hans]

7300$ Non ABS OTD... I've been Ripped Damn Indian taxes...

[antiant]

You may have to cast your net a little farther away to find new at a fair price.

Yeah, I'm willing to travel to get the price I want. I have a lot of vacation time, so I just see it as a mini-vacation.

[anacron]

Originally Posted by antiant

Yeah, I'm willing to travel to get the price I want. I have a lot of vacation time, so I just see it as a mini-vacation.

Sounds like a sweet plan! I'm sure you'll be able to find great deals once you're at dealerships outside of the big cities.

[varun_cali]

Thanks @five10, but I think you may have misread my post. I'm looking for a NON-ABS SE (Green). It seems like you were fortunate enough to have some dealer offer you that for $5,500 OTD. That's the dealer I should be speaking with LOL Can you point me in the right direction please? Right now, the lowest I've gotten on the Green Non-ABS is $6,100 OTD. Feel free to PM me the dealer info if you prefer not to post it publicly. Cheers!

[antiant]

Originally Posted by anacron

Sounds like a sweet plan! I'm sure you'll be able to find great deals once you're at dealerships outside of the big cities.

Yeah, in fact other dealerships that are way out of the way (from where I am located) are offering what I am willing to pay, so it's a win win to me. I never checked my local dealerships because they don't participate in the Costco program, but I figured I'll ask just to see what number they were going to spit out and sure enough, it was blasphemous, lol.

[Xplorguy]

It will be a good adventure picking up the bike and riding it home...

[antiant]

I don't plan on that, I plan on towing it or shipping, as I am a beginner and won't have that type of riding experience yet.

[Xplorguy]

Shipping may be pricey....hopefully you can recruit a friend with a pickup truck...still an adventure!

[five10]

Originally Posted by varun_cali

Thanks @five10, but I think you may have misread my post. I'm looking for a NON-ABS SE (Green). It seems like you were fortunate enough to have some dealer offer you that for $5,500 OTD. That's the dealer I should be speaking with LOL Can you point me in the right direction please? Right now, the lowest I've gotten on the Green Non-ABS is $6,100 OTD. Feel free to PM me the dealer info if you prefer not to post it publicly. Cheers!

Yeap, misread your post. All of the quotes you got are high because the dealerships are trying to "set the bar" on the negotiation and they're setting it high. One reason may be because it's already riding season so there are a ton of riders flooding the market with demand -- coupled with seemingly low supply = high price... they set the price high because they can.

To clarify, I got mine for $5,400 OTD delivery. I also got mine at the end of March which coincided with the end of the fiscal quarter. Salesmen and dealerships do deals then, as stated in the post in my thread.

Here's what you can do.
1) Read the posts on my thread. Link in my signature.
2) Either set the bar for the OTD price yourself or set the bar using the other dealership's #'s -- in your case $6100.
On the phone, you can see if a dealership can match or beat that $6100 by a few hundred and talk them down a few hundred more in person. Take this quote and ask the next dealer to match or beat it. Wash, rinse, repeat, very simple.
3) When you get within a few hundred dollars of your asking price, go to the dealership with literally cash in hand (alla csmith in the post on my sig) and chat with them about the bike you want. This is probably the only way you will get the bike at the price you want.
4) Convince the dealer that they want the money in their pocket right that instant or you'll be taking your money somewhere else. Coincidentally, they're more receptive to that argument around the last 2 days of the month.

If there are any further questions regarding tips for buying new bikes, refer to my thread.

To address the dealership issue, it does not matter which dealership. 1) I got quotes from dealerships all over Norcal that's around the OTD $5500 mark over the phone and in person. The crux is the timing -- I did it at the end of March. This is the beginning of May. 2) No dealership will just give you some price that you found on the internet. Sometimes they don't even honor their own advertised prices. 3) Go earn the price by negotiating with them. No dealership will give you a low OTD price unless they have a very (VERY) large incentive to move that bike that instant. You might also get more stuff that you need like gear, supplies, and service deals.

Lastly, good luck with the buy. If you literally only have $5500, pull a csmith. If you don't get the price, either get a 250 or wait till later in the season where you'll have a larger money cushion -- for important things like bargaining, gear, insurance, etc. -- and the price drops as demand will wane.

[Neenja]

Hi guys, I'm relatively new here. From SoCal in Santee (East San Diego County).

I got lucky and got mine for $4300 in LA for a pearl non-abs with back seat cargo bag and two bros exhaust with only 1,500 miles from a RN!!!!! It was worth the 4 hour drive. That was about 3 weeks ago.

Before that Had 5000 cash in hand and no dealer was willing to go that low. I called each one in the county and walked in and they gave me OTD pricing of $6300-6700 for non-ABS models. Only dealer that has had a good deal is Vey's Powersports in El Cajon. They had a non-ABS OTD price for $5400 but that was just one and it sold quick.

I also tried to use the Costco program but due to "high demand" there were no dealer's that would work with their pricing at the time I checked.

There has been some in La area going for $5k when i checked. Just make sure that they are paid off and have the title.

[antiant]

$5642.46 OTD (not too bad), I am a new owner! Will be shipped, probably tomorrow or sometime by the end of the week. ^_^

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by antiant

$5642.46 OTD (not too bad), I am a new owner! Will be shipped, probably tomorrow or sometime by the end of the week. ^_^

congratulations

[anacron]

Originally Posted by antiant

$5642.46 OTD (not too bad), I am a new owner! Will be shipped, probably tomorrow or sometime by the end of the week. ^_^

Congrats! Which color?

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by antiant

$5642.46 OTD (not too bad), I am a new owner! Will be shipped, probably tomorrow or sometime by the end of the week. ^_^

Congrats!!! Got cheaper than me!

[antiant]

Thanks all! Stardust white, yeah I told the dude I was only going to pay a certain amount. Luckily, I only had to travel an hour away and didn't have to go down to l.a. or the bay area. MSF for me starts tomorrow and the weekend, hopefully I pass lol.

[Xplorguy]

Good Job! You did very well.... Persistence Pays!! You will enjoy the MSF course too.............

[tfkrocks]

Originally Posted by antiant

$5642.46 OTD (not too bad), I am a new owner! Will be shipped, probably tomorrow or sometime by the end of the week. ^_^

Awesome

[tfkrocks]

I saw a 300 w/ABS including Power Commander, frame sliders, and Pazzo levers for only $4950 on Craigslist. Not even past the break-in period. I tried to jump on it but it was sold to the very first person. Would've gotten there first if there had been a practical way to pull out that much cash at odd hours

[CycleCam303]

Start hitting multiple ATMs... You know cause I've never been to 6 different ones in one day before....

[Darling Ninja]

For those who have purchased the Ninja 300, do they give you temporary insurance before you ride off? I am thinking of getting mine this weekend.

[c-dog]

No I don't think so. Not for me, maybe in other states, but I doubt it.

I knew the serial number of my bike before picking up so I just did it online a 2 days before picking it up. If you don't know your serial number yet and will find out when you purchase, you can phone in for insurance also - at least with Progressive who I use.

[Alex]

If you already have motorcycle insurance on another bike, the policy typically covers new vehicles you purchase for a 3-day grace period. Call your insurance company / agent ahead of time to confirm the details.

[LT505]

Got a black one today for $5300 out the door. Out of 10 dealers I called this is the only one that was not gouging the price of the black one to $5000 , $5900 out the door. Glad I was able to find one though! So excited.

[psych0hans]

Originally Posted by LT505

Got a black one today for $5300 out the door. Out of 10 dealers I called this is the only one that was not gouging the price of the black one to $5000 , $5900 out the door. Glad I was able to find one though! So excited.

Congratulations on the new bike!!!

[joe_5700]

Originally Posted by antiant

I don't plan on that, I plan on towing it or shipping, as I am a beginner and won't have that type of riding experience yet.

Oh come on be adventurous. I bought my first bike (a white 300) a week after MSF and rode it back home 50+ miles no problem. The 300 felt natural after about 5 miles.

[antiant]

Originally Posted by joe_5700

Oh come on be adventurous. I bought my first bike (a white 300) a week after MSF and rode it back home 50+ miles no problem. The 300 felt natural after about 5 miles.

I also didn't have my M1 at the time nor could I risk getting caught (for reasons I won't go into). I'm happy with my choice and I'm still adventurous.

[joe_5700]

Originally Posted by antiant

I also didn't have my M1 at the time nor could I risk getting caught (for reasons I won't go into). I'm happy with my choice and I'm still adventurous.

Ok. Now this is what is so strange to me. The order of operations in my twisted mind was to first get my M endorsement and then get a motorcycle. I think I was the ONLY one in the MSF class who DIDN'T already own a motorcycle... Is it just me? Putting a bike on a trailer or in the back of a pickup just seems...stupid... Don't buy the damn thing if you canonot legally ride it! /rant

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by joe_5700

Ok. Now this is what is so strange to me. The order of operations in my twisted mind was to first get my M endorsement and then get a motorcycle. I think I was the ONLY one in the MSF class who DIDN'T already own a motorcycle... Is it just me? Putting a bike on a trailer or in the back of a pickup just seems...stupid... Don't buy the damn thing if you canonot legally ride it! /rant

Maybe not just you but certainly a small irrelevant minority opinion.

[joe_5700]

Originally Posted by allanoue

Maybe not just you but certainly a small irrelevant minority opinion.

Please explain how this logic is irrelevant?

[allanoue]

Calling people stupid on one of your first posts on this site is not logical.
I will PM you.

[joe_5700]

Originally Posted by allanoue

Calling people stupid on one of your first posts on this site is not logical.
I will PM you.

Sorry. To me it just doesn't make any sense (buying a motorcycle and not being able to legally ride it). Hopefully your PM will straighten me out. Thanks.