MotoGP… The Doctor is IN - Page 2

Trailerboy531 · April 24th, 2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tooblekain

Nope, I do not...care to fill me in?

95% of his posts contain copious amounts of sarcasm. He has plenty of gold nuggets but you shouldn't take most of what he says to heart

Darling Ninja · April 24th, 2013, 04:34 PM

Marquez is the new Casey Stoner. Rossi told MCN:

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“He rides very similar to (Casey) Stoner and this is also because the Honda is like this. He is very spectacular and the bike moves and he slides and he always touches his elbow on the tarmac. He is very good and is already so fast. He is particular because he has a strange riding style, maybe something new. Jorge and I ride in a more classic style but Marquez is something different."

Trailerboy531 · April 24th, 2013, 07:21 PM

I think there was evidence enough of that simply by the fact that you like him so much

sharky nrk · April 25th, 2013, 04:07 AM

I watched the TV feed last night to see what I missed footage wise from being at the race and Marquez was just as impressive the second time around lol. Outside of using his body to the extreme to get back up on the tire, he really slides the bike alot more both front and rear tire, very Casey-esque and very fast. I think Dani suffered as much from tire choice as anything else, just ran out of grip at the end.

allanoue · April 25th, 2013, 05:14 AM

At the start of the race Dani had good soft tiers but was unable to keep MM off his tail. He knew he need to get a big lead as early as possible and was unable to do so.

Darling Ninja · April 25th, 2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

I think there was evidence enough of that simply by the fact that you like him so much

Hehe.

allanoue · May 5th, 2013, 06:25 PM

it was a bad pass

CC Cowboy · May 5th, 2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by allanoue

it was a bad pass

It's called a bounce pass.

JohnnyBravo · May 5th, 2013, 06:30 PM

I love hearing about how great stoners are!!!

adouglas · May 5th, 2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

It's called a bounce pass.

Okay, so I've not watched nearly as much bike racing as F1.

The press would be all over a guy who did that in F1. It would likely cause a big time penalty too.

Is it acceptable in bike racing?

Alex · May 5th, 2013, 09:10 PM

It's a grey area. Intentionally causing another rider to crash is not acceptable. Two riders going for the same part of the track and colliding, well, it depends. Block passing is a part of the sport, where you put your bike right where your opponent wants to be, so they have to choose to slow down, run wide, or find a way to cut underneath.

Some riders get a rep for being more reckless than others. Often those same riders are some of the fastest and most successful, so they make more than the usual amount of enemies along the way. Marquez is one of those riders, as he barged his way all the way through the lower classes without worrying about a little bumping of anyone in his way to the top.

sharky nrk · May 6th, 2013, 06:47 AM

Yeah, I am on the fence. On one hand Lorenzo left the door open, on the other Marc came from WAY back and forced the issue questionably. It wasn't like a one off never in contention dive though; he had been hounding for a way past all race.

tnr4 · May 6th, 2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sharky nrk

Yeah, I am on the fence. On one hand Lorenzo left the door open, on the other Marc came from WAY back and forced the issue questionably. It wasn't like a one off never in contention dive though; he had been hounding for a way past all race.

Yeah, me too. I REALLY like Marquez, and I really WANT to like him, so I'm trying not to let this bias my judgment. On the one hand, I didn't even see it as overly agressive at the time: Lorenzo made a mistake, and got screwed because of it, since Marquez put himself where Lorenzo wanted to be. But then I heard the announcers saying how Marquez couldn't have made the turn WITHOUT taking the bump off Lorenzo, and that seems shady -- to make a move so aggressive that the only way to stay out of the gravel is to run into your opponent.

It may have been too much. But DAMN the boy can ride.

allanoue · May 6th, 2013, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tnr4

Yeah, me too. I REALLY like Marquez, and I really WANT to like him, so I'm trying not to let this bias my judgment. On the one hand, I didn't even see it as overly agressive at the time: Lorenzo made a mistake, and got screwed because of it, since Marquez put himself where Lorenzo wanted to be. But then I heard the announcers saying how Marquez couldn't have made the turn WITHOUT taking the bump off Lorenzo, and that seems shady -- to make a move so aggressive that the only way to stay out of the gravel is to run into your opponent.

It may have been too much. But DAMN the boy can ride.

That is the way I saw it. I do not think MM would have been in the gravel but he would have had to stand the bike up and cut some speed to stay on the track. I like him alot and this does nothing to change my mind, but it was a bad pass.

cuz · May 6th, 2013, 08:23 AM

cuz · May 13th, 2013, 08:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_WGFnE-Llg

allanoue · May 19th, 2013, 05:09 AM

Wake up, the race is about to start.

tnr4 · May 19th, 2013, 05:08 PM

I had to work this morning, so I just watched the lap-by-lap updates in the background at motogp.com. I was so upset when Rossi crashed! Crummy conditions, but it shook things up a bit. Marquez dropped a bit, Crutchlaw really showing up, Team Yamaha generally just sucking it up. Wild day! I'm gonna' try to catch the replay of it.

ninjamunky85 · May 19th, 2013, 05:18 PM

Good race today. Not too wet, just enough to make things interesting.

Once again another good race for the Honda's, but not the doctor.

backinthesaddleagain · May 19th, 2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sharky nrk

Yeah, I am on the fence. On one hand Lorenzo left the door open, on the other Marc came from WAY back and forced the issue questionably. It wasn't like a one off never in contention dive though; he had been hounding for a way past all race.

I remember when simoncelli took pedrosa down. They made such a big deal and had to check telemetry to see if sim was at fault. Didn't hear any mention of it with Marquez bumping Lorenzo. Maybe I need to re subscribe to RRW mag.

allanoue · June 2nd, 2013, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by allanoue

Wake up, the race is about to start.

allanoue · June 2nd, 2013, 05:03 AM

Wow
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ouch

Alex · June 2nd, 2013, 06:18 PM

Ruled a racing incident; no penalty assessed to either rider. Looked to me like Bautista owes Vale an apology, but these things happen.

tnr4 · June 2nd, 2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Ruled a racing incident; no penalty assessed to either rider. Looked to me like Bautista owes Vale an apology, but these things happen.

Also, I still don't understand what happened with Marquez. It's like he just decided to take a nap.

Bad race: my two favorite riders crashed out -- one early, and one to give up second place. Not cool!

Alex · June 2nd, 2013, 06:26 PM

He was pushing the front all race, and was just a smidge off line on that corner. It went, and he couldn't catch it that time. It is a shame that he didn't back off once he realized he wasn't going to catch Lorenzo anyway.

tnr4 · June 2nd, 2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

He was pushing the front all race, and was just a smidge off line on that corner. It went, and he couldn't catch it that time. It is a shame that he didn't back off once he realized he wasn't going to catch Lorenzo anyway.

Interesting. I didn't get to watch the whole race, as I found out at start time (to my dismay) that I no longer have SpeedTV. (Gonna' have a chat with SOMEONE at Verizon about that tomorrow!) But that gives more context than just the video of him going down, where it's hard to see him doing anything wrong.

There was a nice interview with him after the race, where he was very humble, and even apologized to Honda. He reiterated that he's still a rookie, and that he's honored to still be in the fight for second, and knows he has a lot to learn. Apparently that ^^^ is one of the things he has to learn!

ChrisMKV · June 2nd, 2013, 10:24 PM

Fortunately for The Doctor, he is all right after the crash. When I saw him flying like a rag doll after the impact on the Barrier I thought he'd be hurt for sure...

Panda · June 3rd, 2013, 06:28 AM

Bautista took out Stoner and VR last year as well IIRC.

Alex · June 3rd, 2013, 07:04 AM

I don't remember him taking out Stoner or Rossi last year. He did, however, punt Lorenzo off the track at Assen:

Link to original page on YouTube.

GearMonkey · June 3rd, 2013, 07:40 AM

What an extremely frustrating race for Vale and Marquez.

Panda · June 3rd, 2013, 07:42 AM

Yeah I was wrong I was thinking about this one in 2011.

Link to original page on YouTube.

CC Cowboy · June 3rd, 2013, 07:44 AM

I need to get one of those Yamahas. They seem pretty quick.

OCMagnum · June 3rd, 2013, 08:33 AM

I don't think Bautista made a lot of fans (certainly not me) yesterday with his facial expressions and body language in the box after the crash. He reminded me of a little kid thats pouty at the world because he is being called out on a mistake.

Contrast that with VR hamming it up shortly after the crash again. Or with MM's humble interview after the race mentioned above. Easy to see why some riders have a bigge following than others.

Panda · June 3rd, 2013, 08:35 AM

Speaking of body language. MM was hilarious after his get off with the arms waving and the head shaking.

OCMagnum · June 3rd, 2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda

Speaking of body language. MM was hilarious after his get off with the arms waving and the head shaking.

very true; for a moment I thought he would start fighting with himself he looked so mad

adouglas · June 3rd, 2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisMKV

Fortunately for The Doctor, he is all right after the crash. When I saw him flying like a rag doll after the impact on the Barrier I thought he'd be hurt for sure...

I want a suit with airbags like he's got.

Unfortunately I'd have to sell a kidney to afford one.

alex.s · June 3rd, 2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

He was pushing the front all race, and was just a smidge off line on that corner. It went, and he couldn't catch it that time. It is a shame that he didn't back off once he realized he wasn't going to catch Lorenzo anyway.

but you can ALWAYS catch the person in front of you. its those losers at the back of the pack that resign to irrelevancy!

keith217 · June 4th, 2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by adouglas

I want a suit with airbags like he's got.

Unfortunately I'd have to sell a kidney to afford one.

Wait what? His track suit has airbags built in?!

shizblam · June 4th, 2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by keith217

Wait what? His track suit has airbags built in?!

Yup... here's data of his crash... it's pretty insane.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...31-at-mugello/

CC Cowboy · June 4th, 2013, 10:21 AM

And they say gear doesn't make the man.

April 24th, 2013, 07:21 PM	#43
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	I think there was evidence enough of that simply by the fact that you like him so much __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

May 5th, 2013, 09:10 PM	#51
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May 19th, 2013, 05:18 PM	#59
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April 25th, 2013, 04:07 AM	#44
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	I watched the TV feed last night to see what I missed footage wise from being at the race and Marquez was just as impressive the second time around lol. Outside of using his body to the extreme to get back up on the tire, he really slides the bike alot more both front and rear tire, very Casey-esque and very fast. I think Dani suffered as much from tire choice as anything else, just ran out of grip at the end.

April 25th, 2013, 05:14 AM	#45
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	At the start of the race Dani had good soft tiers but was unable to keep MM off his tail. He knew he need to get a big lead as early as possible and was unable to do so.

May 5th, 2013, 06:25 PM	#47
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	it was a bad pass

May 5th, 2013, 06:30 PM	#49
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	I love hearing about how great stoners are!!!

May 6th, 2013, 06:47 AM	#52
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	Yeah, I am on the fence. On one hand Lorenzo left the door open, on the other Marc came from WAY back and forced the issue questionably. It wasn't like a one off never in contention dive though; he had been hounding for a way past all race.

May 19th, 2013, 05:09 AM	#57
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	Wake up, the race is about to start.

May 19th, 2013, 05:08 PM	#58
tnr4 ninjette.org sage Name: Travis Location: Washington, DC Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki GSX650F! Past: Kawasaki Ninja 300 (Sold); Triumph Street Triple (Sold); Kawasaki Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: 664	I had to work this morning, so I just watched the lap-by-lap updates in the background at motogp.com. I was so upset when Rossi crashed! Crummy conditions, but it shook things up a bit. Marquez dropped a bit, Crutchlaw really showing up, Team Yamaha generally just sucking it up. Wild day! I'm gonna' try to catch the replay of it.

June 2nd, 2013, 05:03 AM	#62
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	Wow Edit: ouch

June 2nd, 2013, 06:18 PM	#63
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Ruled a racing incident; no penalty assessed to either rider. Looked to me like Bautista owes Vale an apology, but these things happen. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

June 2nd, 2013, 06:26 PM	#65
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	He was pushing the front all race, and was just a smidge off line on that corner. It went, and he couldn't catch it that time. It is a shame that he didn't back off once he realized he wasn't going to catch Lorenzo anyway. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)
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June 2nd, 2013, 10:24 PM	#67
ChrisMKV ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Luxembourg Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250, 2015 F800R Posts: 90	Fortunately for The Doctor, he is all right after the crash. When I saw him flying like a rag doll after the impact on the Barrier I thought he'd be hurt for sure...

June 3rd, 2013, 06:28 AM	#68
Panda not an actual panda Name: dan Location: philadelphia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, 2009 CBR600RR (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Bautista took out Stoner and VR last year as well IIRC.

June 3rd, 2013, 07:04 AM	#69
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	I don't remember him taking out Stoner or Rossi last year. He did, however, punt Lorenzo off the track at Assen: Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

June 3rd, 2013, 07:40 AM	#70
GearMonkey ninjette.org guru Name: Scott Location: Atlanta Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R Posts: 363	What an extremely frustrating race for Vale and Marquez.

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Panda not an actual panda Name: dan Location: philadelphia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, 2009 CBR600RR (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Yeah I was wrong I was thinking about this one in 2011. Link to original page on YouTube.

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CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	I need to get one of those Yamahas. They seem pretty quick. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!
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June 3rd, 2013, 08:33 AM	#73
OCMagnum ninjette.org member Name: OC Location: SoCal Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Aprilia Dorsoduro 750, 2012 Ducati Monster 696 (sold), 2012 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: 168	I don't think Bautista made a lot of fans (certainly not me) yesterday with his facial expressions and body language in the box after the crash. He reminded me of a little kid thats pouty at the world because he is being called out on a mistake. Contrast that with VR hamming it up shortly after the crash again. Or with MM's humble interview after the race mentioned above. Easy to see why some riders have a bigge following than others.

June 3rd, 2013, 08:35 AM	#74
Panda not an actual panda Name: dan Location: philadelphia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, 2009 CBR600RR (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Speaking of body language. MM was hilarious after his get off with the arms waving and the head shaking.

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CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	And they say gear doesn't make the man. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

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