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That said, earbuds are one thing, but the legality of having wires going into your helmet can't be disputed. Look at any motorcycle LEO: They have a wired helmet too! Motorcycle kits are primarily for communications also and mine doesn't require hands, unlike their police radios. Heck, many helmets, my GMAX GM58S included, have pockets right where your ears go specifically for in-helmet speakers. I stuffed them with tissue to get the speakers stuck on the outside closer to my ears (could barely hear them). As far as banning portable media players in cars: Most car stereos with iPod interfaces can show the track data and remote-control the iPod so that the interface is irrelevant. Heck, the OEM ones have the connection in the glove box, so it can't possibly distract you. One with Bluetooth A2DP/AVRCP can wirelessly do the same, though I haven't seen track data passed on (I've read the A2DP specification documents and know that it is possible to implement). That said, I can't operate my iPhone with a gloved hand anyway, so all I can do is load up the maps app and hit the location button before I ride. The interface on the connected device is irrelevant if I can't interact beyond my vehicles standard controls (handlebar remote). |
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This is true. Yes they do make special headphones for motorcyclist. heres a link:http://www.webbikeworld.com/r4/noise...ion-earphones/ Quote:
I brought up the wires thing when talking about the canada and mp3 players thing. was just saying watch out to those guys if the bs law passes. Cause the wire might trigger a LEO. I'm sure the leos are well within their state regulation. Check with your local laws and regulations on this one. In some places you are limited to a single speaker. Check to see if your in regulation like those LEOs http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/PrintLaws.html This might not be updated so check with your local DMV: Quote:
They did mention. Alot of newer cars are equipt with systems that sync with cell phones in fabulous ways,like fords n-sync, etc. They recommended it. Oh! Now theres a commotion about being on a conversation period!! So if they ban talking on the phone altogether, that these car manufactures that have invested in the technology are basically going to take a loss. I don't know if the numbers are significant enough, but I don't think theyre going to look at the money over lifes lost. All they need to pass that one are numbers. As of right now the only thing I've seen is a study that says having a phone conversation while driving is the equivelent of being inebriated!!! What is this comming to? Soon it will be illegal to talk to your passengers while driving, then illegal to have passengers (unless on a motorcycle doing over 50MPH)
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April 20th, 2009, 12:06 PM | #43 |
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Yeah, it loads now but it was giving me a database error 500 or just not loading earlier (other threads loded fine even when the URL was formatted the same way). I already posted in it.
As far as I am concerned, the muffler, wind, and road, noise combined with your helmet completely covering your head already seriously inhibit your ability to hear traffic sounds and determine where they are coming from, so you must be more visually aware than other vehicles... especially considering that you must pretend to be invisible! I've honked my little horn at a car for miles and had them completely oblivious to it (FINALLY heard it miles later), so all the wind seals and vibration dampeners in cars trying to quiet external and engine noises are at least an equal concern. Comparitively, speakers in a helmet aren't that bad. Heck, if anything, I'd be concerned that they would cause more riders to pass on earplugs. I bookmarked that "laws by state" list you linked to but I really wish I could find the source of their info. I've read the GA motorcycle manuals (old and updated) and spent days looking at motorcycle laws and never saw a "no music" law. Hell, they sell as many touring bikes with stereos as any place. Last futzed with by CZroe; April 20th, 2009 at 05:06 PM. |
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lets not overly mix shooting around town with straight highway riding. Ya know? Sure we end up in mixed situations, but we like to be prepared right? We cyclist generally know if we are going on a long haul or just flying around the corner a few times. I know Im thinking about the ride as I'm gearing up I agree with an in helmet set that does not press against the ear. Some of the states that allow two ear sets actually go the length to state this in the regulation(ran into it earlier,not looking it up). With that set up I'd ride on populated streets at lower volumes without plugs and use plugs for highways (all this considering a lower db pipe). If I'm on the streets I don't bother too much with plugs. Theres more left and right going on and its really when you need a faster phase difference between each ear more often to determine left and right and be able to deal with it quickly. On the Highyway I'm all about plugs. I'd like to try a helmet skirt because I don't think I have a prob with road noise. Its the wind that kills me. On the highway its more hearing Front, and behind all which is determined by the back edge of the ear lobe [Edit:Apparently not all can determine if a sound is coming from front or behind them either!] (height is also determined by the lobe). So while the ear plugs do lower the ears ability to receive ambient sounds sooner the lobes will tell you its behind you. smushed ears dont help here.. ya know A fullface doesnt have a very big impact on dampening sounds. The inside of the helmet doesnt do any reflecting to confuse the ear either. Put your helmet on and snap you fingers all around from front to back I wont tell anyone..lol You'll notice its not really having the serious effects you suggest Considering new song mixing and mastering techniques, ever increasing build quality, more buds with isolation and built in noise cancelation are becoming avail. all of the above increasing fidelity (yes ,more detailed frequecies at wider bands, increasing the 3d soundstage while helping to further mask more of whats going on outside the music), earbuds and headphones can really confuse the ears while driving any vehicle.
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Actually, I brought up both as well as in-ear buds and combination buds/plugs. Earbuds and in-ear buds are different enough (I can't even fit normal earbuds), though there are some in-ear types meant to block other outside sounds specifically for motorcyclists... saw them for about $200 in the back of a dealer's 2007 catalog.
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I have the same problem with regular earbuds to. Put them in, they fall out. I eventually found a pair that doesnt fall out easily. I also found something that helps me use any pair. http://i6.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/89/fd/52e9_1.JPG BTW: I love SD. Good people
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April 23rd, 2009, 04:33 AM | #47 |
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I'm still really a GA guy. Only been here a few months. I've always wanted to visit NY myself but it's much too cold for me to consider living in.
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We might get a handfull of wonderful winter days. But thats it. I'm pretty fed up with the cold myself. I left my heart in San Diego Some day...some Day Definitly worth a visit up here. Great fishing all over . Never been to GA. Whats good down there? I'd like to visit ATL
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These don't appear to have an input or a radio, but perhaps it is an option for some?
http://www.mini-speaker.com.tw How loud is 1.5W? |
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Probably couldnt hear that thing on a busy street while riding a bicycle
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I would like to have dual speakers on my bike and I have heard that Now we can also install Television on the bikes!!
Isn't it cool?? -------------- brad pitt bluetooth motorcycle intercom |
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Sure. Or you can just save yourself a few bucks and use earbuds while watching your TV. I'm sure you'll be able to hear it better.
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Buffalo New york.....what a terrible place to live.
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Whys that? Maybe you should start a new thread regarding.
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How clear is the sound from the speakers over the exhaust?
If I were to roll pass some people, would they be able to hear the music? Oh yes...Buffalony, where did you end up placing yours? |
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The statement on their site about hearing them over a harley with open pipes doing 85 is not a gimmick. That shouldnt go without saying the riders ears are ahead of their pipes. The speakers can be pretty loud in their little direction and right in front though. I dont need to turn the volume all the way up to hear them. I say compared to a car with their radio on at a reasonable volume an windows down, at the same listener volume the the car radio would be louder. I think people behind the rider would probably get as much or more sound from a stock exhaust or what ever gets past their windshield. Cars over your shoulders would hear them the most but this can be curved quite abit by angling the speakers up alittle as what I did. It really comes down to the way their mounted. If you mount the speakers right you can make it real easy to get in and out of the music based on your position. The speakers are directional. Basically the sound eminates outward like a cone where you point them. The further outside of the cone the less you hear. If your outside of their direction there is a noticable decrease in their volume. Its fairly easy to get them at a volume you can hear from the front of your little space without disturbing anyone outside of that space. At first I had them temporarly mounted on the bars which was easy to do considering they come with the bar mirror mounts. But I didnt care for the look. Now I have them mounted to the inner fairing in the nook next to the gauges. The speakers have two built in mounting holes but I didnt want to drill holes in such an expensive part of the bike. I like to be able to bring my bike back to stock even if I never really do Plus they wouldnt be adjustable. I did some searching and instead of Industrial Velcro I ended up chosing Marine Grade Dual Loc by 3M so they dont come off easily yet still remain adjustable. The Amp was mounted inside the fairing and the pwr/volume control box at the top of the left bar.Both with Dual lock. I use my phone as an MP3 player/GPS navigation (though I wish it could do both!!). I bought one of those belt clip phone holders and Dual locked that down to the bike to I love it though. When I get on to ride I pop on my phone, connect the headphone jack, and go I'll get some pics up sometime in the future to follow this up. Im going on the NE group ride soon to. Ill see if I can get some of those riders to throw down their opinions here later on as well.
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Like I said I had them mounted at the levers for a couple days and that served its purpose but doesnt look so hot There might also be a better way to mount them than I did I couldnt think of any other way.
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The only music I need is the sound of an engine, and the sweeter the song the better. I don't need a soundtrack to go along with it. Riding takes your mind off of things and is very therapeutic. Music takes your mind off of riding. It is a distraction. Perhaps an enjoyable distraction, but a distraction nevertheless. If you're paying attention to music you are by definition not paying attention to riding and your surroundings. Focusing on the perfect line...getting the most out of the machine...digging the scenery...being one with the bike and totally IN THE MOMENT... The more of your finite stock of attention and mental energy you can devote to these things, the more rewarding the ride will be. IMHO. Just my $0.02. I don't know about all of you, but I'm so over-stimulated and bombarded by media ALL THE FRAKKIN' TIME (including neighbors who do not understand what 'peace and quiet' means) that I need a break to maintain my sanity and reconnect with the real world from time to time. BTW... I love music -- I play bass in a gigging band and music is a very big part of my life -- but I've found that stepping away from it makes it all the better when I do immerse myself in it. |
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I can see why that works for you and most recreational riders, but my bike is my only transportation. That means it gets ridden more for utility than relaxation. I'd be spending an awful lot of time away from media if I didn't find some way to make it work. I have no time for TV, radio, etc elsewhere. I can pretty much only browse the intar-weber-net-tubez at work. Besides, something can certainly be said for having radio traffic reports and GPS prompts when you commute, so it's easy to see how isolating yourself from some media can cause MORE frustration, especially if you don't live in "lane-splitting" CA (only state where it's legal/tolerated).
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This brings to mind another task, cutting the grass.
Most men mow the lawn. Most women cut the grass. Some, very few, men cut the grass. Just as few women mow the lawn. If you don't understand, you're probably a grass cutter, not a lawn mower. (hint: grass cutting is a chore. Lawn mowing is a task that is inherrently singular in nature, you can shut out the world, turn your body over to autopilot and good physical labor, think about what you want to think about (usually solving job, world, and family problems), and just live in the moment without any care or pressure. To me, a radio/music on a bike is a similar issue. Are you getting from A to B, or are you living in the moment? I guess the answer depends on where, how, and why you ride. Thankfully, we don't all like or want the same things. Otherwise, the lines would be long and life would be boring.
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Long straight highways are alot better now. Thanks for the replys everyone. Pics to come.
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Iphone w/3.0 software = wirelessly play music via ADP2 Bluetooth + Chatterbox = win.
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I'm using iPhone OS 3.0 with my iPhone 3G and Parrot SK4000 helmet kit and have been since Beta 4. FWIW, the original iPhone still needs an A2DP adapter. Anyone want to buy mine?
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Sorry but this is the way I roll. And this sounds great with a set of Bose earbuds.
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I just got my bike a week ago today.
Yesterday I took my first long ride. 425 miles, from the coast of Connecticut up to central Vermont and back. Lots of beautiful, twisty mountain roads. It was a totally analog experience. No computers, no email, no phone, no Bluetooth, no wifi, no radio, no mp3s, no CDs.... ... just the sound of the wind, the engine and tires on pavement. It felt FANTASTIC to unplug for a few hours. Just my $0.02. |
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ugh just get helmet speakers
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motor...Q5fAccessories There, I picked them up, I hear them going 80+, why on earth would you install exterior speakers on a bike? |
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The sound of the bike motor is ok ... but gets boring after awhile.... and I am a music lover .....so the Sirius Radio is perfect for my needs. Long trips are great !
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I like, I've been wanting to do this for a while now, I look forward to your DIY
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Anyone know what the cushioning things are called on studio monitor headphone? I want to buy some to try to make an earmuffspeaker out of my helmet speakers. The whistle and wind noise of my cheap helmet are making me deaf (I have always been hard of hearing). Unfortunately, earplugs will interfere with my Blleutooth stereo.
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Thanks Steve! Thats alittle f-ing obnoxious.lol
I definitly dont fit into that category of riders."show offs" at least theres some green on that monstrosity.
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