August 5th, 2013, 06:33 PM | #41 |
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^^ still hella better than drop in kits! Good work.
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May 20th, 2014, 03:55 AM | #42 |
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Installed
I finally got this kit installed on my bike. As others have said, the difference is amazing. I totally recommend it.
Here are some before and after pics of the light spread. The wall is about 12 feet in front of the bike. The drainage pipes in the wall give a good indicator of height for comparison. Here are the lo-beams. The one on the left is an HID in the stock light. IMG_1137.jpgIMG_1262.jpg Here are the hi-beams. Again, the left is the stock light with stock hi-beam. IMG_1138.jpgIMG_1261.jpg There are more details on my blog, here if you are interested in where I put the hardware and what-not. Not the greatest walk-through, but more specific than most out there for the Ninja 250.
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June 12th, 2014, 05:07 AM | #43 |
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Well, my Rustoleum High Heat Matte Black grill paint didn't hold up on the reflector. What prompted me to install HIDs in the first place was that my reflector was damaged, so of course I planned to paint it. The heavily damaged side was flaking off, so I spent forever with a water hose and fingernails, scraping until I had that side completely flaked off. I washed everything with dish soap and dried thoroughly before spraying. I laid on coat after coat but when I came back there were bits and flecks of chrome showing through everywhere but where I scratched it all off.
Instructions were very clear about "no primer" needed (do they even make high heat primer?). Granted, it got rained on while it was outside after drying, but it should have been plenty dry enough by that point. I think I should just try again and make sure that NOTHING touches it even once dry. |
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June 12th, 2014, 09:08 AM | #44 |
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Do you need to scratch up the reflector really good for the paint to adhere to it?
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June 12th, 2014, 10:48 AM | #45 |
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Perhaps, but my experience with this stuff on the exhaust tells me that it'll show through. My worries are that scratching it up will leave tons of partially adhered flakes between all the ridges. Even if they don't show under the paint, they are likely to go ahead and flake off with the paint from vibration or changes in humidity, then that will surely show.
Other than one fleck in the collector, almost all of the places it flaked off were places the would contact a flat surface when set face down, which I will attribute to the family member who secured it for me during the rainstorm while I was away. I guess I'll try layering it all on thick and making sure that NOTHING touches it before it's sealed in the headlight assembly. I'll get all my fitting and drilling done first this time. |
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June 12th, 2014, 04:08 PM | #46 |
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Reflector Flake
Yeah, I had the same kind of problem when I painted mine.
Looking at all the high heat paint in the store, most of them had, "Don't use on chrome" written on the can - so I picked one that didn't. It still would 'crack' when it dried, showing bits of reflector here and there. (I hung it up in a shack for painting and drying, so it wasn't touching anything.) I eventually ended up putting 4 or 5 coats on it - letting it completely dry between each one and there are still some very small cracks in the paint. Fortunately it isn't obvious unless you stick your face right in front of the light. I'm not sure if it would work or not, but if I did the project again I would use a really light grade sandpaper to score the reflective surface before painting. You wouldn't want to go too deep or you'd end up with the chrome flaking off, but if you put a couple layers of paint on it I don't see why humidity or what-not would cause flaking.
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June 12th, 2014, 05:48 PM | #47 |
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Is there a safe and effective way to strip chrome off plastic?
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June 12th, 2014, 07:06 PM | #48 |
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Well, sheets of it practically fell off on the side where I made the first flake while trying to "clean" the damage, but YMMV... mine was full of rotting sludge for over a year and the black spots were actually clear spots on the chrome film. A few more bubbles forms when I put it through wet/dry cycles. I think maybe soak/dry cycles might do the trick once you compromise the film in the first place. It was still a real chore to scrape it all off on the side that had flaked already (only went up to the walls).
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February 23rd, 2015, 08:38 PM | #49 |
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I apologize for the necromancy ritual I am about to perform, but it's either that or start a new thread.
I'm getting ready install this kit (expecting the package to arrive by the end of the week.) Only thing I haven't been able to find locally is silicone glue or Ribbon Sealer, what I do have however is plastic bonder glue and I am wondering if it's a bad Idea to use that or not. |
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February 23rd, 2015, 08:55 PM | #50 |
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Don't use that. You want to be be able to reopen the light afterwards if needed. You want butyl, not silicone or adhesive.
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February 23rd, 2015, 09:02 PM | #51 |
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Granted, you may not ever need to open the light again, but better safe than sorry. Worse case scenario, use silicone. You should be able to find it in the bathroom or kitchen areas of a local hardware store. Just make sure you choose one that can handle the temperatures. Not related, but the link posted above for my walk through is broken, it should be THIS.
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February 23rd, 2015, 09:05 PM | #52 | ||
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February 23rd, 2015, 09:13 PM | #53 | |
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Try to find someone selling some used because you don't need 15'. I'd sell you what I have left over if I lived on that side of the ocean.
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February 23rd, 2015, 09:19 PM | #54 | |
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February 23rd, 2015, 09:23 PM | #55 |
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Try Amazon
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February 23rd, 2015, 10:40 PM | #56 |
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Butyl rubber
Here is where I got mine. OCI Butyl rubber
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February 23rd, 2015, 11:10 PM | #57 | |
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February 24th, 2015, 12:06 AM | #58 |
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I can understand that. (I had to pay about double what amazon.ca is asking.) Try a local automotive glass repair shop. See if they would be willing to sell you a couple feet of it. Don't see why they wouldn't.
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February 24th, 2015, 06:35 AM | #59 | |
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OK well try this I believe he's local. HID Retrofit He is in 416 area code. |
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February 25th, 2015, 09:44 AM | #60 | |
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Ordered one from there yesterday, showed up today. The power of local purchases |
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February 26th, 2015, 10:20 PM | #61 |
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Just got my HID Kit, wiring is completely different than the tutorial (single harness with one red battery lead, two black ground and a sort of relay splitting off into a set of connectors for each ballast and projector . I'll post pics later.
Not sure if they sent the right kit and they just streamlined things or sent the wrong kit, I WAS able to hook one and get it to light up. Also I think they forgot to send me the halo's I requested but I'm not 100% sure since I ordered the XcLED ones instead of the standard CCFL ones. send them an email with pics to verify, really hope they can either tell me how to get them to work if they are there or rush ship me if they are missing because my mechanic is picking my bike up in two weeks and that's about how long it took for the kit to arrive. |
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February 27th, 2015, 10:25 PM | #62 |
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It's been over 24 hours since I emailed BKMoto about the potentially missing halo, still no word. I am mildly annoyed.
Anyway picture time. This is the wiring harness that came in the box, compared the the tutorial version there is a single harness instead of two but it splits off into two ballast connections, there is only one red wire but each "side" has its own black wire the other thing I'm not sure about with this harness is if it needs halo inverters like the tutorial model. Could be they forgot to ship those too or that it's been integrated into this new harness. After a bit of dicking around I found this was the configuration of wiring I needed to get the lights to turn on and switch between high and low beam. I'm not really sure what this is for, there's a matching set of green and black wires on the projector so I assume it's either for the halo or for the demon eyes which I opted out of. Not sure where the red and black ones go though, You can also see the projector in the background and the front looks different than what I was expecting. Anyway time to go crack open my headlight assembly and put what I can together. |
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February 28th, 2015, 12:20 AM | #63 |
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The halos you ordered are already installed on the projectors. (The white ring with all the LED lights on it) Everything looks fine to me. Without seeing the wiring coming from your projectors, I can't give any advice about the setup but since you are going to have a mechanic do it for you, what are you worried about, anyway?
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February 28th, 2015, 12:27 AM | #64 | |
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Other than the two ballasts what I showed in the post after the one you quoted is all the cabling I was sent Projector connected to ballast and harness On the other projector as a test I tried finishing that green black connector, hooking up the thing to it and then hooking the red and black to the wire that hooks into the harness. Probably not the right way to do it but I tried. |
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The headlight assembly is the most difficult part of the job - so you're paying a mechanic for the easy part. Quote:
Anyway, if a mechanic is going to do the install, just follow the instructions on the projector install (headlight assembly) up to the point where you run the wires through the dust caps and reinstall the plugs. The mechanic should be able to take it from there.
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as I showed in one of the pics I tried adding them to the hi/lo switch cable but that obviously didn't do squat. Edit: never mind, figured out where they go Last futzed with by Daakuryu; February 28th, 2015 at 06:49 PM. |
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March 3rd, 2015, 09:46 AM | #67 |
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Well ****...
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