July 28th, 2014, 01:40 PM | #1 |
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am i screwed or what?
so last night after a long day at work "msf" i came home and the sister in law was at the house. she had been bugging the wife for a while about wanting to go out on the ninja, so we got geared up and took off. about 10 mins into the ride i hear a sound ive never heard in 7 years of riding. i pull over and i can smell exhaust. so my first thought was maybe something with my header, so i crawl under the bike and nothing is wrong with the headers. then a sinking feeling comes over me and i realize the sound is coming from one of the spark plug wells... i get everything stripped off and i can see the cap for the spark plug has popped up. ill skip the mile long walk in the pouring rain and the wife wrecking my car on her way to come get me... long story short my ****ing plug well is stripped and i cant get a plug to seat in it...
so the question is how screwed am i? ive looked around and it seems like the repair would either cost me close to half of value of the bike, or i could risk messing it up alot more and try to fix it myself. any one here have any experience with this?
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July 28th, 2014, 02:13 PM | #2 |
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it has happened to me before. what i did was take the head off and use a helicoil after tapping to a larger size.
sorry to hear your wife crashed your car. hope she is alright. hope the wife is well too.
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July 28th, 2014, 03:15 PM | #3 |
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she is fine, just decided to scrape my car against a house >=(
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July 28th, 2014, 03:22 PM | #4 |
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July 28th, 2014, 05:55 PM | #5 |
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This happened to me exactly two seasons ago. Take the head off. Take it to a machine shop. They'll drill out the plug hole, reverse tap it, and insert a helicoil. I've had no problems ever since.
I made a thread at the time. Title is something about engine saga. No idea. But it's there. Look it up on my profile I guess. |
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July 28th, 2014, 08:33 PM | #6 |
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July 29th, 2014, 12:13 PM | #7 |
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think im going to sell my baby :cry: all the math im doing would show that i would exceed the value of the bike once combined with the price i paid with this repair and start losing money. not to mention been wanting a bigger bike for 7 years :P yall have seen my baby, how mush should i sell it for?
also with the msf the comp jobs, and the army i dont have alot of down time. here are some of the specs Full muzzy exhaust hid headlight new tires (90% tread) 255 green leds 15k miles on it new handgrips and levers. btw no matter what im not leaving this community i love yall too much and ill always be a ninjette at heart!
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July 29th, 2014, 12:32 PM | #8 |
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Just curious but your math doesn't add up. How do you sell the bike with that kind of problem for any kind of money that would NOT make it a better choice to repair it.
For instance... regardless of what you put into it in extra's... (nobody pays extra for extra's...) with that kind of repair... the bike is not able to be ridden. Most people looking for 250r's are looking for starter bikes that need NO repairs. These are typically new riders who don't have a clue. None of them will buy the bike. If you do happen to find somebody like me who buys and repairs bikes on the side you would be lucky to get $600-$700 for it. The better choice is to repair it. Its only labor. My guess would be around $100.00 at a machine shop if you take the head off yourself... $300.00 if you bring it to an indy and they do it. Not a big deal at all. I could have that head off in about and hour. |
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July 29th, 2014, 12:48 PM | #9 | |
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the smart choice would be to let it sit and buy a new one, then eventually get it repaired and sell it for around 100-200$ loss. dont need the cash, have plenty in the bank but im wanting to buy a house for my little girls asap and this will set me back a few months
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July 29th, 2014, 01:28 PM | #10 |
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That's the thing though, John's right. Nobody is paying $800 - $1000 for a non-running 10 year old 250. Fix it and it's worth something, don't fix it, and you'll have a hard time giving it away for $250.
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July 29th, 2014, 01:58 PM | #11 |
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seems like a plan, ill keep yall posted, let me know if anyone has a 600 for sale around me. no katanas :P zx6r, 636, 650r, sv650, etc
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July 29th, 2014, 02:11 PM | #12 |
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somebody is selling a 250 for $250?... i'll take it!
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July 29th, 2014, 05:38 PM | #13 |
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Bah. I wouldn't buy a non-running 250 for any amount of money, no matter what parts were on it. $500 maybe. If you're set on selling, you're likely better to part out. And that's a hassle.
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July 29th, 2014, 07:08 PM | #14 | |
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July 30th, 2014, 04:41 AM | #15 |
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How to fit a helicoil to a ninja, Bottom line take it to a pro to do the job
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Helicoi...park_plug_hole Alternative, buy a complete ebay head and sell your existing rockers and cams individually to cover it |
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July 30th, 2014, 05:12 AM | #16 |
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@7oxSin if you bring the motor to me I'll fix it for free. I have the heli coil but you'll need to get a new head gasket and any other things you want/need replaced.
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July 30th, 2014, 06:33 AM | #17 | |
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Now that is a good deal. No excuses my friend, go bring the bike to NinjaGirl!
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July 30th, 2014, 08:07 AM | #18 |
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QQ no way to get it 3 hours away if i have the time to get her stripped down i could possibly try to ship it. btw <3 @TnNinjaGirl my hero!
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July 30th, 2014, 05:30 PM | #19 |
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CB you're a badass, that's an awesome offer
LUPE. Drop the motor. Drive to CB. it'll be cheaper than shipping. Do it mang. You don't get an offer like that very often. |
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July 30th, 2014, 05:54 PM | #20 |
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if i grab a new bike b4 i get the ninja apart it would be a good excuse to hit the dragon again!
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August 4th, 2014, 06:02 AM | #21 |
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Whatever you want to do. If you end up keeping the 250 find a way to get it to my house and I'll fix it up.
I love working on those motors. They're a treat compared to the 4cyl motors. |
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August 5th, 2014, 10:25 AM | #22 |
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You said "Army." Got access to an on-post auto shop? Those guys can be a real money/time saver. Give them a call and ask. No telling where it might lead.
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Or pull the head and ship it to her... I just shipped a textbook bigger than the ninjette head to MI for $6.00. Actually I have most of a spare engine at my shop (aka mini storage), all I really have any use for is the cylinder block and the pistons, the head's in good shape as far as I can tell. It's yours if you want to come after it in Columbia.
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August 5th, 2014, 11:40 AM | #24 | |
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August 5th, 2014, 11:52 AM | #25 |
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You said "Army." Got access to an on-post auto shop? Those guys can be a real money/time saver. Give them a call and ask. No telling where it might lead.
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August 5th, 2014, 05:50 PM | #26 |
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thats a good idea!
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August 5th, 2014, 05:51 PM | #27 |
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awesome!!!!!!! let me call around and see if i can get a buddy with a truck!
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Oh it'll fit in the floorboard in front of your passenger seat without any trouble, or just the trunk of a car. That's the head my 6 year old is holding in my profile pic it's a little bitty engine. No need for a truck. PM sent.
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August 6th, 2014, 08:07 AM | #29 |
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Somewhere I have a picture of a ZX10r motor in the trunk of my z4.
At some point there was also an ENTIRE 2009 r6 in my z4. Just in pieces but it was all there. |
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August 6th, 2014, 08:11 AM | #30 |
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Haha love it! My brother is near famous for making a trip to TN with a KX500 in the back seat of his veggie oil powered mercedes.
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August 6th, 2014, 08:16 AM | #31 |
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I like the cut of your brother's jib
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August 6th, 2014, 09:06 AM | #32 |
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Lol be careful he's highly eligible and talking about moving back to TN from michigan...
And more importantly I want some nieces and nephews one day lol
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August 6th, 2014, 10:13 AM | #33 |
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annnnnndddd moodkiller....
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October 24th, 2014, 11:16 AM | #35 |
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October 25th, 2014, 01:48 PM | #36 |
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worked out great! u are a life saver man! my old head was even more screwed then i thought!
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October 29th, 2014, 02:29 PM | #37 |
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Nice glad it worked for you! I finally got mine together and legal over the weekend, rode about 100 miles Sunday night but now it's losing a lot of power so it's about to be back apart for a minute. If I get it back together before it's too cold let's hook up for a ride one weekend.
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