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July 17th, 2011, 05:39 PM | #402 |
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July 18th, 2011, 04:37 AM | #403 |
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oil change side stand
Cool! Thanks for the help.
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July 29th, 2011, 06:44 AM | #404 |
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oil change
This helped big time. Just did first oil change. Runs great no leaks or funny noises! Thanks Used Pennzoil 10w40 with k&n-401 filter. Had to order the filter from my auto parts store so I had them get me two to save some time down the road. My used oil had one really tiny pebble shaped metal piece and lots of little shavings (can't see them unless you move it around a lot). Didn't change the crush washer as my local mechanic advised me it's not necessary to replace every oil change unless the drain plug was previously overtightened. And he also told me that what he meant by overtightened is like taking a hammer to the socket wrench. So I think it'll be ok.
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August 1st, 2011, 12:10 PM | #405 |
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Is there any significant difference between "high-mileage" oils and normal oils that I should be worried about. I did my recent oil change with this:
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ge_10W-40.aspx because it was the only synthetic 10W-40 I could find at the wal-mart I went to. It's fully synthetic (not a mix) and it isn't energy-conserving so I figured it was okay, but I just want to make sure. Probably should have asked a while ago |
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August 1st, 2011, 12:37 PM | #407 |
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It is in fact non-energy conserving (the bottom half of the circle is empty) which is why I figured it was fine to use, just wanted some opinions on if there is anything different in the formulation of the oil I should be worried about to make sure.
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August 1st, 2011, 12:46 PM | #408 | |
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August 3rd, 2011, 10:17 AM | #409 |
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Thanks for that write up. As soon as it stops raining I'm gonna attempt changing my own oil! I am not so mechanically inclined as I wish I were.
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August 3rd, 2011, 11:31 AM | #410 |
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I have never been much of a gear head (I've never even changed the oil in my car), but this was still incredibly easy. Good luck! Be prepared to give the bolt on the filter some muscle, it was a pita for me to get mine off.
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August 26th, 2011, 02:07 PM | #411 |
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Adding pics for reference:
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August 26th, 2011, 02:59 PM | #412 |
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Just wanted to say thanks for the clearly annotated photos.
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September 1st, 2011, 01:43 PM | #413 |
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I have a dumb question to ask that I didn't see asked or answered in this thread...
So I got everything ready to do the bikes first oil change at 250 miles today but I was wondering something about checking the oil itself. Is it fine to check the oil in the mornings after the bike has been sitting all night so the oil can collect all the way at the bottom. I noticed that mine seems to be right at or slightly under the low mark on the sight glass. So is it fine to check in the morning or should it always be checked after the bike has been warmed up? |
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September 1st, 2011, 01:46 PM | #414 |
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You can do it with the oil hot or cold. You do have to wait a few minutes for the oil to settle if you're just turning off the ignition.
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September 1st, 2011, 09:24 PM | #416 |
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It was pretty easy changing the oil, but I wasn't expecting a challenge since it couldn't be harder than changing it on a regular car where you need a jack, jack stands, and then to crawl on ur back and stuff...
Anyways, I filled it up using one entire quart, and then slightly under the 1/4 mark on the second bottle. I turned the bike on and let it run for several minutes while I cleaned up everything and then lowered the bike off the stand. Called the wifey over to help me check the sight glass while I held it level and she said the oil was just below the top line which is good for me. After that we went on a nice ride to make sure everything was good and now the bike is parked and sleeping comfortably. Tomorrow morning I'll do another check on the oil level to make sure I didn't over fill it. Thanks to everyone that posted advice or information here. It was very helpful! |
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September 2nd, 2011, 12:37 PM | #417 |
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so going slightly below the 1/4 mark on a quart of oil is too much oil
I had to drain some out of the drain plug this morning...hopefully I didn't damage anything on my 25 mile ride yesterday with too much oil in the bike Now the level is sitting steadily between both marks |
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September 2nd, 2011, 01:10 PM | #418 |
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Quick question: does the k&n filter come with the rubber o-rings or are those purchased separately?
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September 2nd, 2011, 01:48 PM | #419 |
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k&n 401 comes with the o-rings
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September 15th, 2011, 01:20 PM | #420 |
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Thanks for the images Cuongism! Although, the original post from KKIM has 30+ images. Any chance that you have a copy of those that I could get? I'm looking to make a little manual for myself and it's tough when all that shows up now are little blocks. Thanks!
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October 14th, 2011, 05:28 AM | #421 |
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The links to the pictures in DYI are broken.
Anyway to get those fixed? That would be awesome! I will be attempting my first oil change soon
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October 14th, 2011, 05:41 AM | #422 |
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New pictures are needed to repair this DIY. Hopefully we will have this fixed soon but in the mean time I'll PM you something you can use. GL!
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October 14th, 2011, 10:17 AM | #423 | |
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I've attached a PDF that I found from a user on this forum with all the images from KKIM's original post. I forget her name but she's awesome for having done that! I had already changed the oil in my bike by the time I found it, so I didn't know to change both of my o rings. I will on my next (second) oil change though. Oh and remember to change your crush washer if you can. Good luck! |
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October 14th, 2011, 10:34 AM | #424 |
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dubojr1, areion457,
Thank you so much! This helps a lot!
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Alex: Can we use the pdf pictures to correct the DIY???
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I'm sure he will.
Prepare those pics.... we're gonna fix this DIY!!! Thanks in advance for your help!
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October 14th, 2011, 12:39 PM | #428 | |
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No need, I've got a tool that does exactly that.
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October 14th, 2011, 07:40 PM | #429 |
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In case you didn't get a chance to run your tool on the PDF, I had already extracted all of them in Acrobat They're all numbered for organizational purposes
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October 15th, 2011, 12:48 PM | #430 |
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I've got a question about the crush washers.
Is it supposed to look like this? I went to the Nissan dealer to get part #11026-01M02 because the wiki said it was the equivalent for our 250r's. At the dealer the parts guy gave me part # 11026-JA00A saying it was the exact same item. Looks like this: |
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October 15th, 2011, 04:38 PM | #431 |
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I did not see a crush washer when I oil changed... and I never put a crush washer in there. Is my bike okay? I already ran like 200 miles after the oil change, no problems so far though.
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October 15th, 2011, 05:03 PM | #432 |
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If you torqued the drain bolt according to specs and there are no leaks then you should be fine. Just grab some next time before you do your next oil change.
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October 15th, 2011, 05:11 PM | #433 |
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Torqued it by feel, no leaks, and I pickued up some washers for next time. So I hope I'll be fine.
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October 15th, 2011, 06:14 PM | #434 |
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OK - thanks all, the initial pics have been reloaded into post 1 and 2 of this thread. If folks suggest that there are even better pics to replace 'em with (I like some of Cuong's), I'm up for that as well, just let me know.
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Here's a picture of a used one but you get the idea...
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I just wanted to point out that the DIY itself did not mention replacing the crush washer. He only mentioned it sticking to the engine. If Alex could edit that in there, that would be great.
Anyway: I lied. That isn't all I wanted to point out. I wanted to say that I had the opposite problem with my crush washer: I couldn't get it off the drain bolt! It would spin when all the way on but would immediately cross-thread when trying to take it off (no way to stay perfectly perpendicular). I just had to clamp it in some vice grips and thread it out, hoping that I don't damage the drain bolt threads. The other concern is that the replacement that I got from a dealer has a much smaller outer diameter, so I wouldn't be able to get it in the vice grips again if it happened again. I went to the dealer with a list of compatible oil filters and the first they had in stock was one of the Honda ones. The big O-ring was very different than the one with my K&N filter that I was replacing. The K&N filter's O-ring was flat on one side and the Honda one was perfectly round. It was also frustratingly large. I remember being a little annoyed when trying to fit the K&N one in last year but this one was crazy. I would carefully push in two opposite sides with an equal amount of slack between them and then turn 90-degrees and do it again and then turn 45-degrees and do it again then 90-degrees again but the slack would always pop out somewhere and leave me chasing the lump all the way around. Eventually, I got it to stay down all around but I have no idea if it stayed during/after installation. I can say one thing for certain: I will not be buying the Honda filter again! I think I'll go with Wix next time because I know they are American-made. |
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Where should I or could I edit? I'm happy to do it, just tell me what post where you think it makes sense.
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So I Changed my oil. First, it came out too over filled. Now, the oil drain plug won't screw in. it tightens, then last second loosens. Is it the screw, or the case? Do I have to take it to kawasaki?? Ugh. Bad day. Help please.
EDIT As I was doing this, and trying to figure out why it wouldn't screw, I did notice some metal shavings on my hand. What could this mean? Thanks.
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