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Thank god.
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Here is a plot of your data. That's why I think the valves are till problematic, at least the reason for the crappy run the other day. |
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We're going to film us doing the valves in HD so that you guys can point out what we are doing wrong.
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Backflow
The last I heard, the Ninja is supposed to have a little backflow at the beginning of the compression cycle. The intake valve is intentionally held open a little ways into the compression stroke. This causes the bike to have greater efficiency - more power, more MPG, less noise from the muffler.
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Perhaps someone else with an ecotrons kit on a pregen can log some data from the MAP sensor to see if its consistent?
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I have some data somewhere. Let me see about digging that up...
EDIT: I don't have the disk with me atm so I can't take a screen shot, but I'm not sure if we can even upload that type of files here anyways? Anyhow Matt, you have some logs from me when I was getting set up. You're more than welcome to use those as a comparison if you'd like. |
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Attached is a photo of the two marks. Note that the hole is not directly above the mark, so you have to look at a sharp angle to see under the housing. I think there is also a "1|B" mark on there which is used for something else.
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Jiggles, you know you wanna come bring your bike over for working EFI comparison purposes on saturday
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He never installed his. He can bring the parts though.
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THe MAP sensor @ecotrons mailed should be here by then anyways, even though we think the current one is good to go.
I guess we will be filming the valve adjustment and also filming the removal of the injectors and spraying them into the air.
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I wish I could say that at this point.
Question regarding my case: Is there ANY chance that the ECU could be to blame for this?
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ECU dead
After all that effort trying to get this thing installed. And finally doing it. The ECU is DEAD. No fuel pump running, no MIL light. Nothing. Dead.
EDIT: Referring to my installation and not lolibater.
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How did you come to this conclusion for your kit though?
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i doubt it, if the priming charge works.
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Perhaps Matt will chime in on this.
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Dumb question n4mwd:
is your key turned "on" when you try and connect the ecu to the computer? |
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The ECU is dead. It should run the fuel pump for a few seconds and it isn't.
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Did you go through the troubleshooting tips that are on the pdf file included on the disk? There's steps of things to check for if the pump doesn't cycle when you turn the key to "on".
Does the computer show a connection at all to the ecu when they're connected and the ecu is powered? Not to be insulting here, but are you sure it's installed correctly? We all forget small details sometimes. |
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I tested the com port and it works. I don't think I forgot anything because everything is connected.
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I just checked the fuses and they test OK. There are two of them. One is on the red battery wire and the second is on the green wire on the CDI connector.
I thought I had just figured it out, but the ECU is dead for sure. Its getting power, it just isn't doing anything with it.
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I thought CDI was removed by installing the EFI kit?
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It is removed
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are you sure you the ecu plug is seated right?
mine was tough for sure
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The actual CDI box is removed. I was talking about the connector that used to connect to it. The new @ecotrons ECU takes over the CDI function. There is a fuse on the green wire that goes to the connector.
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I tried shaking the wiring harness while the key is set to ON and nothing happened. I also followed the ECU reset procedure that Matt gave earlier in this thread. No change. @ecotrons - Matt is there specific diagnostics for the ECU to see if its dead or not? Should I send it back?
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You only voided your TB's warranty right?
Try not to mod the ECU
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ouch, jiggles is on a roll today
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No I haven't added a new pulley to the ECU.
I'm not able to get it to show any signs of life. So it should still be covered under warranty. I'll try to post a video later.
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Did you check all the relays and fuses?
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Is that my data?
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Yes all the fuses and relays are good.
I also noticed tonight that the ECU was sort of warmish after sitting several hours with the key off but still connected to the battery. I don't think the ECU is supposed to get warm like that when its off. Matt, any suggestions? Should I send it back?
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I am not sure. But below one is just downloaded from your email. To make sure. Same as a good case.
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did you try the reset procedure earlier in the thread?
how the voltage on the battery?
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