Official 2013 Ninja 300 (and 250) Thread - Page 15

CZroe · August 5th, 2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snapcolburn

This could be a huge game changer. See the last paragraph from this gas2.org article.

http://gas2.org/2012/08/05/kawasaki-...he-250cc-game/

I think this is the thread you wanted to post in:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110755

Alex · August 5th, 2012, 02:00 PM

I can't tell the trollers from the trollees. This thread has gone full derp.

CZroe · August 5th, 2012, 02:23 PM

Hay gaiz. Look at this:
http://gas2.org/2011/08/27/yamaha-to...s-over-250-cc/

You know what that means? Global Yamaha small-displacement sportbike offering.

Kawi was reacting to more than just Honda. It doesn't mean that Yamaha intended to sell it here, but they were probably about to move it into a lot more markets to recoup R&D costs that they were already dedicated to making. You don't honestly think that they'd ignore all the countries where they have to sell a 250, do you? Case in point: Yamaha Byson. They'll make a global 250-300 to sell in their own market as well now that they aren't making one specifically for their own market.

choneofakind · August 5th, 2012, 02:29 PM

Full derp indeed. I'm just sitting here scratching my head

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Jiggles · August 5th, 2012, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I can't tell the trollers from the trollees. This thread has gone full derp.

This thread was full derp from post #1

areifel · August 5th, 2012, 02:38 PM

I HATE ALL OF YOU! Y'all have me all confused and what not.

snapcolburn · August 5th, 2012, 03:12 PM

Wow. See the last paragraph from this gas2.org article.

http://gas2.org/2012/08/05/kawasaki-...he-250cc-game/

Jiggles · August 5th, 2012, 03:23 PM

^ lol

@greenaero, you just got pwned

Boom King · August 5th, 2012, 03:23 PM

Probably 90 imperial mpgs...

snapcolburn · August 5th, 2012, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom King

Probably 90 imperial mpgs...

You sound a little butthurt there...

Jiggles · August 5th, 2012, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snapcolburn

You sound a little butthurt there...

So do you

Boom King · August 5th, 2012, 03:47 PM

There you go again, always thinking about random people's butts...

Butt seriously, my comment is based off what we know of the Honda CBR250R and using that as a comparison. It is rated at 77 US mpg. 90 imperial mpg would work out to be roughly within the same range. Just my personal thoughts that's all...

ZackoFF96 · August 5th, 2012, 04:38 PM

if i were all of you i wont sell my 11 ninja 250 .. i will keep it

for reasons see this vid :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXdE_2p6pCU

(not my video)
im sorry its still in indonesian, but the bottomline is the plastics & build quality are MUCH worse than the 11 ninja 250. its like they didnt even want to make the damn bike.

and for the 2 stroke smoker ninja..
its a really GOOD bike

smokes the 250 every time

mpobad · August 5th, 2012, 05:18 PM

sorry but i didnt see the same as you.... i saw same kind of plastics and stuff...btw, kawa had to put some lighter plastics to decrease the weight from a larger body....

C L · August 5th, 2012, 05:33 PM

lol i like how he taps everything

mpobad · August 5th, 2012, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C L

lol i like how he taps everything

he's crazy... i would never do something like that... its not normal...not a normal person in my opinion...lol

snapcolburn · August 5th, 2012, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom King

There you go again, always thinking about random people's butts...

Butt seriously, my comment is based off what we know of the Honda CBR250R and using that as a comparison. It is rated at 77 US mpg. 90 imperial mpg would work out to be roughly within the same range. Just my personal thoughts that's all...

I'll choose to be optimistic instead.

ZackoFF96 · August 5th, 2012, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpobad

sorry but i didnt see the same as you.... i saw same kind of plastics and stuff...btw, kawa had to put some lighter plastics to decrease the weight from a larger body....

Yeah I know kawa has to make the new bike lighter .. But they don't have to sacrifice the quality .. Why the thinner & wobbly plastics ? That's not the quality I expected from kawi ..

bdavison · August 5th, 2012, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro

For the guys asking for a 400cc model, there's already a 400cc Ninja. It's being sold in Canada and a few other places.
http://www.kawasaki.ca/model/STREET-...443/Ninja-400R

It's very similar to the 650R model.

Definitely looking forward to a new 250R though

That's not a 400cc...its a sleeved down 650.

mpobad · August 5th, 2012, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZackoFF96

Yeah I know kawa has to make the new bike lighter .. But they don't have to sacrifice the quality .. Why the thinner & wobbly plastics ? That's not the quality I expected from kawi ..

yeah i understand you....but you have to wait first to see it in person... on that video i didnt see that kind of difference...if theres one...its minimal in my opinion...in some parts the new has flaws, the old has others...and so we move on....

taufik-tmcblog · August 5th, 2012, 06:39 PM

my friend promise me to send dyno graph of the new ninjette this afternoon (indonesia time) . . .

ZackoFF96 · August 5th, 2012, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpobad

yeah i understand you....but you have to wait first to see it in person... on that video i didnt see that kind of difference...if theres one...its minimal in my opinion...in some parts the new has flaws, the old has others...and so we move on....

Yeah you're right

I'll wait till my neighbour / friend have one and then I will compare them

And about the parts I'll probably change something if the new one has better quality / style

I hope they're bolt on to the old ninja

Jiggles · August 5th, 2012, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taufik-tmcblog

my friend promise me to send dyno graph of the new ninjette this afternoon (indonesia time) . . .

Oh please post this up! I would love to compare it to a stock carb dyno jetted stock carb dyno and full system carb dyno.

And if one of these lazy ass ecotrons install guys would get a dyno with a full pipe I'd love to compare that as well!

choneofakind · August 5th, 2012, 07:57 PM

you payin? $50 and I'll do it.
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Jiggles · August 5th, 2012, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

you payin? $50 and I'll do it.
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$10

lgk · August 5th, 2012, 08:09 PM

just listen to jono and jiggles

lgk · August 5th, 2012, 08:45 PM

hey chone
if you want to do it, ill chip in $10.

Shibadip · August 6th, 2012, 02:45 AM

Guys, did someone notice the rear suspension??
I cant find the mono-shock (or rather any shock)

I looked into the current ninjas, and could'nt find there as well.
Owners/Experts please comment

choneofakind · August 6th, 2012, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

$10

well a dyno run is $50 at my shop

and idk if the dealer even does dyno runs. I'll look into it in the spring, because I'm running out of summer fast and I'm kinda lazy

I need to get ready for school again
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CZroe · August 6th, 2012, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shibadip

Guys, did someone notice the rear suspension??
I cant find the mono-shock (or rather any shock)

I looked into the current ninjas, and could'nt find there as well.
Owners/Experts please comment

I saw the shock. Looks the same as before.

Shibadip · August 6th, 2012, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

I saw the shock. Looks the same as before.

Can u attach a pic of that??
I could'nt see any..

CZroe · August 6th, 2012, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shibadip

Can u attach a pic of that??
I could'nt see any..

How about a video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjzay_Gx4jw&t=0m53s

I didn't embed because it links to a particular point.

Shibadip · August 6th, 2012, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

How about a video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjzay_Gx4jw&t=0m53s

I didn't embed because it links to a particular point.

Thanks..
Will check out..

adouglas · August 6th, 2012, 07:04 AM

Same as before... yeah, when I saw the redesign I got pretty excited about the potential for change under the skin. But the close look we got from the walkaround video shows a bike that appears to be nearly identical to the current one.

We'll see what the new frame does... I'm thinking "not much overall, no reason to sell your bike."

Lots of talk about putting the latest instruments/fairings on the old bike. I have a feeling that's not going to work well.

- the instruments fit into the fairing very closely... so a gauge swap would probably be difficult, not to mention the wiring is likely to be very different.
- The fairing mounting points are all different. That means you'd have to fabricate appropriate mounts on your frame.

CZroe · August 6th, 2012, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adouglas

Same as before... yeah, when I saw the redesign I got pretty excited about the potential for change under the skin. But the close look we got from the walkaround video shows a bike that appears to be nearly identical to the current one.

We'll see what the new frame does... I'm thinking "not much overall, no reason to sell your bike."

Lots of talk about putting the latest instruments/fairings on the old bike. I have a feeling that's not going to work well.

- the instruments fit into the fairing very closely... so a gauge swap would probably be difficult, not to mention the wiring is likely to be very different.
- The fairing mounting points are all different. That means you'd have to fabricate appropriate mounts on your frame.

Many people ditch the inner shroud/surround so, as long as the gauge mounting holes align, the only remaining concern is the wiring.

bdavison · August 6th, 2012, 08:35 AM

HERE IT COMES!!!!

YAMAHA is going to respond.
They have a four-stroke 250cc thumper motor now, that is in their new dirt bike for 2013...so get ready....its coming.

Racer x · August 6th, 2012, 08:37 AM

I have been waiting for a 250 war.

Shibadip · August 6th, 2012, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdavison

HERE IT COMES!!!!

YAMAHA is going to respond.
They have a four-stroke 250cc thumper motor now, that is in their new dirt bike for 2013...so get ready....its coming.

It looks like a Indian version of R15

adouglas · August 6th, 2012, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdavison

HERE IT COMES!!!!

YAMAHA is going to respond.
They have a four-stroke 250cc thumper motor now, that is in their new dirt bike for 2013...so get ready....its coming.

Yeah, but it'll have a 33-inch seat height.

The high seats on the R6 and R1 always puzzled me... given that Asians are generally on the short side compared to those in the west.

choneofakind · August 6th, 2012, 08:56 AM

^^ I guess they figure that a compact bike should place handling over comfort? A lot of those motogp guys are on their tippy toes at the starting grid.
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August 5th, 2012, 02:00 PM	#562
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	I can't tell the trollers from the trollees. This thread has gone full derp. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 5th, 2012, 03:12 PM	#567
snapcolburn ninjette.org newbie Name: Snap Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 4	90+mpg!!!!!!! Wow. See the last paragraph from this gas2.org article. http://gas2.org/2012/08/05/kawasaki-...he-250cc-game/

August 5th, 2012, 03:23 PM	#568
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	^ lol @greenaero, you just got pwned __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 5th, 2012, 06:39 PM	#581
taufik-tmcblog ninjette.org member Name: Taufik Location: Indonesia Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki ER6N Posts: 38	my friend promise me to send dyno graph of the new ninjette this afternoon (indonesia time) . . . __________________________________________________ Taufik of BuitenZorg tmcblog.com

August 6th, 2012, 02:45 AM	#588
Shibadip Destined to be the Winner Name: Shibadip Location: Kolkata, India Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Pulsar 200NS Posts: 23	Rear suspension Guys, did someone notice the rear suspension?? I cant find the mono-shock (or rather any shock) I looked into the current ninjas, and could'nt find there as well. Owners/Experts please comment

August 5th, 2012, 02:23 PM	#563
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Hay gaiz. Look at this: http://gas2.org/2011/08/27/yamaha-to...s-over-250-cc/ You know what that means? Global Yamaha small-displacement sportbike offering. Kawi was reacting to more than just Honda. It doesn't mean that Yamaha intended to sell it here, but they were probably about to move it into a lot more markets to recoup R&D costs that they were already dedicated to making. You don't honestly think that they'd ignore all the countries where they have to sell a 250, do you? Case in point: Yamaha Byson. They'll make a global 250-300 to sell in their own market as well now that they aren't making one specifically for their own market.

August 5th, 2012, 02:29 PM	#564
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Full derp indeed. I'm just sitting here scratching my head Posted via Mobile Device

August 5th, 2012, 02:38 PM	#566
areifel ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Florida Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 194	I HATE ALL OF YOU! Y'all have me all confused and what not.

August 5th, 2012, 03:23 PM	#569
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Probably 90 imperial mpgs...

August 5th, 2012, 03:47 PM	#572
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	There you go again, always thinking about random people's butts... Butt seriously, my comment is based off what we know of the Honda CBR250R and using that as a comparison. It is rated at 77 US mpg. 90 imperial mpg would work out to be roughly within the same range. Just my personal thoughts that's all...

August 5th, 2012, 04:38 PM	#573
ZackoFF96 ninjette.org member Name: Zacko Location: Asia Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 84	if i were all of you i wont sell my 11 ninja 250 .. i will keep it for reasons see this vid : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXdE_2p6pCU (not my video) im sorry its still in indonesian, but the bottomline is the plastics & build quality are MUCH worse than the 11 ninja 250. its like they didnt even want to make the damn bike. and for the 2 stroke smoker ninja.. its a really GOOD bike smokes the 250 every time

August 5th, 2012, 05:18 PM	#574
mpobad ninjette.org member Name: Marcello Location: Rio de Janeiro Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 22	sorry but i didnt see the same as you.... i saw same kind of plastics and stuff...btw, kawa had to put some lighter plastics to decrease the weight from a larger body....

August 5th, 2012, 05:33 PM	#575
C L ninjette.org member Name: Andrew Location: Orlando, FL Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2014 300 Posts: 162	lol i like how he taps everything

August 5th, 2012, 07:57 PM	#584
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	you payin? $50 and I'll do it. Posted via Mobile Device

August 5th, 2012, 08:09 PM	#586
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	just listen to jono and jiggles

August 5th, 2012, 08:45 PM	#587
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	hey chone if you want to do it, ill chip in $10.

August 6th, 2012, 07:04 AM	#594
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Same as before... yeah, when I saw the redesign I got pretty excited about the potential for change under the skin. But the close look we got from the walkaround video shows a bike that appears to be nearly identical to the current one. We'll see what the new frame does... I'm thinking "not much overall, no reason to sell your bike." Lots of talk about putting the latest instruments/fairings on the old bike. I have a feeling that's not going to work well. - the instruments fit into the fairing very closely... so a gauge swap would probably be difficult, not to mention the wiring is likely to be very different. - The fairing mounting points are all different. That means you'd have to fabricate appropriate mounts on your frame.

August 6th, 2012, 08:37 AM	#597
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	I have been waiting for a 250 war.

August 6th, 2012, 08:56 AM	#600
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	^^ I guess they figure that a compact bike should place handling over comfort? A lot of those motogp guys are on their tippy toes at the starting grid. Posted via Mobile Device

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