October 24th, 2012, 08:28 PM | #41 |
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Unlikely. They mount differently.
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October 24th, 2012, 09:07 PM | #42 |
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Word on the street , other forums, is that the k&n air filter for the 250r fit this baby as well. I will order one for my self and verify because they did mention austrailian part numbers and I'm in florida so ill give it a try
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October 24th, 2012, 09:20 PM | #43 |
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Will you also be spending $200 to retune your ecu or are you just gna destroy your engine?
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October 24th, 2012, 09:31 PM | #44 |
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Don't change the air/exhaust until someone makes an ecu management device readily available. It's not worth it.
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October 25th, 2012, 06:07 AM | #45 |
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October 25th, 2012, 06:18 AM | #46 |
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October 25th, 2012, 06:21 AM | #47 |
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I read from one of the EU members last year that the dealer can reflash the ecu or something.
I've read the same thing about Triumph Daytona 675's. Triumph has a map at the dealer that works perfectly with the Arrow full exhaust (or whichever full exhaust that you use) and they'll put it on your ecu, no worries. |
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October 27th, 2012, 12:42 AM | #48 |
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what about the engine mounts?
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October 30th, 2012, 10:19 AM | #49 |
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Still waiting on @Alex to see if those HH EBC pads will work
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October 30th, 2012, 10:23 AM | #50 |
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Sorry about that Tri! Been a little preoccupied. But yes, it turns out that the pads fit fine, and I had them on the bike for this Sunday's ride. The weird part is they still aren't working that well. They always take some time to bed in, and hopefully their feel will continue to get better, but initially they behaved much worse than the stock pads.
I'll update as I get a better handle on them over the next few hundred miles. I owe you a new set of FA197HH's, and I'm happy to ship them directly to your house if that's OK.
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October 30th, 2012, 11:43 AM | #51 |
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Sweet! I'm glad they fit. Did you break them in before your ride? I'm ok if you want to ship them or if you just want to send me a paypal payment for the cost of a set. Saves you from having to ship and I actually don't really need them just yet.
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October 30th, 2012, 09:36 PM | #52 |
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Just sent you $, thx! I tried to break them in, with moderate braking for awhile, and have gone to harder braking to try and get them bedded in. I am onto max braking force by the end of that ride, and they are still just OK. They work fine, but I hope they come in even better, as the difference from stock to where they are now isn't much different at all.
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October 31st, 2012, 06:38 AM | #53 |
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Is the 300 the same weight as the 250? Strange that the HH pads feel like organics. I wonder if bleeding the brakes with better fluid would make a difference?
I got the money. Thanks!
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October 31st, 2012, 08:42 AM | #54 |
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New fluid and SS lines! Be the guinea pig Alex!!
The other option is to just replace it from the lever/MC all the way to the caliper with the 250R parts. We know those are good enough to do stoppies. |
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October 31st, 2012, 12:25 PM | #55 |
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Is the MC different?
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October 31st, 2012, 02:23 PM | #56 |
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It looks like the mc & rotor are identical. I don't have any reason to believe why it should feel different at this point. Time will tell.
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October 31st, 2012, 03:25 PM | #57 |
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That pretty much leaves the line and caliper right?
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October 31st, 2012, 03:56 PM | #58 |
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The caliper looks identical, and the line I'm sure is identical. In other words, I'm pretty sure the entire system is the same. It looks to be so, which is why I'm curious why I'm still not ecstatic about it.
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October 31st, 2012, 04:51 PM | #59 |
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Maybe you should lay off the Snickers bars
Did the rake change at all? Maybe the brakes are actually performing correctly and something about the bike is causing a difference in braking?
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October 31st, 2012, 05:49 PM | #60 |
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The rake is more conservative, but I don't see how it would affect brake lever feel.
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October 31st, 2012, 07:45 PM | #61 |
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How much weight did the bike gain? Something had to have changed.
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October 31st, 2012, 07:49 PM | #62 |
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I think it's just taking time for the crap from the prior pads to make its way off the rotors, and be replaced with the grippier crap from the new pads.
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Everything comes back to the crap.
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November 1st, 2012, 06:42 AM | #64 |
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So it's more about the feel of the lever and not the braking performance? If the rake changed, shouldn't that also affect how the bike brakes in regards to shifting it's center of gravity? Center of gravity may not be the best term to describe what I'm saying.
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November 1st, 2012, 10:55 AM | #65 |
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We're way overthinking this. With the stock pads, the bike required a very significant pull on the lever to get the bike to stop. The pads also got hot quickly, and it required an even higher pull on the lever to get the bike to stop. I upgraded the pads because I wanted better performance / better feel / less lever effort due to higher grip pads.
The new pads haven't provided as much of an improvement as I hoped. Initially they were terrible, but I know that the EBC's take a little while to bed in. Now they are probably up to what I was feeling with the stock pads. I hope they continue to improve. None of this is particularly relevant to how the chassis feels while under braking, which actually is a noticeable improvement regardless of the pads; it's much, much harder to bottom out the front fork than it ever was on the 08-12 bikes.
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November 1st, 2012, 11:04 AM | #67 |
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Touche. As you might imagine, I was playing with it quite a bit on Sunday, and at one point brought the front wheel all the way to lockup at about 50 mph. Always fun to slide the front unintentionally! But released and was on my way with just a minor pucker moment. There is more than enough power to lock the wheel even at speed, it's just doesn't feel particularly great right now.
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November 1st, 2012, 11:21 AM | #68 |
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I've gotten good at locking the front on my mountain bike, but on a ninja?
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November 6th, 2012, 12:55 PM | #69 |
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Do we know the wiring diagrams yet? I'm interested in swapping over the left hand controls so I can get a high-beam flashy button because I flash when I pass and it's annoying to click up click down click up click down when I could just flash flash.
It would also get rid of my choke lever (which I don't need anymore) and clean up that a little bit. |
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November 6th, 2012, 12:57 PM | #70 |
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Anyone bought/applied stomp grip to tank yet? Need to do my 300 and my SV.
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November 6th, 2012, 02:29 PM | #71 |
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Here are the wiring diagrams for the 300.
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November 7th, 2012, 07:16 AM | #72 |
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Exactly the same PC for the Ninja 300 as it is for the 250R FI...
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November 7th, 2012, 12:42 PM | #74 |
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Looking at the wiring differences, it appears that "GPS Unit" means factory alarm system. Doesn't seem like it was offered that way in the US.
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November 7th, 2012, 01:09 PM | #75 |
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At least there's a PC out for it now. I want to see some numbers after some tuning. Kerry from Area P was hinting at some improvements that could be made over the stock map.
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November 10th, 2012, 07:22 AM | #76 |
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Thetwowheels.com levers
I got my levers from the2wheels.com and they fit perfectly and appear to be good construction. I am now able to adjust the levers just the way I like them. I will post some pics when I get a chance.
These are the ones I got including color of titanium on black shown below. http://shop.the2wheels.com/CNC-Foldi...t-Kawasaki.htm |
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November 18th, 2012, 07:45 AM | #78 |
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the best is to get a Brembo 4-pot for the front...
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November 18th, 2012, 08:10 AM | #79 |
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Do you have any more info on that? a link or what part number to look for? Bolt on conversion, donor bike? Thanks.
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November 18th, 2012, 08:41 AM | #80 |
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Here's the info for the adapter in the front, I'm using the one from Agras.
http://japan.webike.net/products/9648924.html For the rear Brembo caliper I use this adapter from Beet. http://japan.webike.net/products/9363732.html And here you can see it mounted at my bike. MyNinja8.jpg |
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