October 1st, 2010, 12:47 PM | #41 |
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Wow... that is a pretty cool adapter! I didn't know they made one like that. Can you the adapter separately for other applications (don't ask me what, merely an academic question)?
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October 1st, 2010, 12:48 PM | #42 |
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if you put the magnets and speed sensor on the rear wheel, you could put it up on a stand and config the gear indicator that way too. I'd be sure to block the front wheel tho just to make sure it doesn't slip off the stand.
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October 7th, 2010, 05:55 PM | #43 | |
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Does anyone know what the stock water temp switch thread size and pitch is? (I'm talking about the one that's inside the thermostat housing btw, not the radiator) Also I like to use magnetic drain bolts. I was looking at your pic#23 and remembered that there's actually 2 drain bolts. Has anyone tried using the far left bolt as the oil temp sender location instead? thanks! |
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October 7th, 2010, 06:10 PM | #44 |
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The FI Ninja and Carb Ninja using different sensors. The FI uses a sensor with three wires and Carb uses only one wire.
In my FI Ninja Koso sensor not only has to replace the original. I believe the carburetor will not be the same problem.
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October 7th, 2010, 07:32 PM | #45 | |
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As for the drain bolts..they are the same size... M14x1.25 ...so technically he could have installed the sensor on the other plug. It would make sense to do this and reserve this plug for oil change..it's more accessible. |
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October 15th, 2010, 09:51 PM | #46 | |
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November 5th, 2010, 02:39 PM | #47 |
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I am trying to install the water and oil sensors... What size do I have to buy???
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November 7th, 2010, 10:51 PM | #48 |
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i would suggest measuring the ones on your bike, just so no mistakes are done. then it also depends where you want to put the sensors. there are two types for each sensor it seems.
i replaced the oem sensors with the koso sensors directly. while some koso packages require you to cut into the water pipe from the radiator (so you keep the oem sensor) and attach a T junction. and the same goes for the oil, they either have a sensor built into the oil nut that you remove when you do the oil change, or replace the oil sensor directly with the OEM oil sensor. this is what some packages come with. sooo... im not sure which one you intend on using. i just got 2 sensors like this: that plugged in here: and here: by removing part A, B, C
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November 7th, 2010, 11:17 PM | #49 |
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I'm going to call Koso tomorow (thier headquaters it only 20 mins away from me) and ask them if the speedo can actually be pre programmed with a set milage, ill also ask them to make the next firmware update good for 12h time
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November 8th, 2010, 12:01 AM | #50 |
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yeah, they should have more options with the time/temp/fuel combination layout, at the moment you can only have time and fuel. or, temp and temp, temp and fuel, and a 4th setting (forgot). i would have liked to have time and water or oil temp. for example, since the fuel gauge just sux... lol
how about a disco light scheme, maybe one that changes according to the rpm/speed ratios or something. just something senseless but maybe a little amusing to have... i mean since we already have 7 colors to play with! why not :P
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November 8th, 2010, 05:06 AM | #51 |
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For the water hose I know that is 22mm but for the oil I read 14x1,5 and 14x1,25 and I dont know wich... For the water hose the hole that we install the sensor is 1/8???
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November 8th, 2010, 08:46 AM | #52 |
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when replacing the original gauge with Koso gauge, does the stock oil and water sensor not used at or still used for dummy light?
I went for the Koso/voltmeter kit plus Engear indicator instead. Can't wait for it to get here. |
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February 20th, 2011, 10:31 AM | #53 |
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what value did you guys use to set up the Cycle/Piston in the setup menu? I am currently use 4/2 and the speed is a little off.
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February 20th, 2011, 02:15 PM | #54 |
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I used 2 piston 4 stroke. put in 1887 for tire circumference.
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February 20th, 2011, 03:54 PM | #55 |
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I see my mistake. I put 8 magnets instead of 6
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February 20th, 2011, 04:14 PM | #56 |
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that would do it. make sure the magnets are all facing the right way. i put one in backwards and my speedo was way off.
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February 20th, 2011, 04:43 PM | #57 |
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so what sensors come with the current koso cabr ninja kit? does it use the magnest for speed or the cable to digital signal convertor? does the fuel work for the carb ninja? what size water temp sensor is needed to replace the stock sensor? Thanks
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February 20th, 2011, 07:51 PM | #58 |
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The plug and play kit comes with both speed sensor/magnet or adapter for the mechanical cable. One should use the speed sensor though for better accuracy. It comes with two sensors for oil and water. Direct replacement of both. Just remove your stock ones and put in the Koso sensor and hook it all up. Also the plug & play wire harness is direct plug in...The fuel gauge works too...Very simple.
Everything works now (Koso) but my Engear gear indicator doesn't work. I'm not sure if it's because I messed up and put 8 instead of 6 magnets which messed up the speed and that's why it didn't work or is it because it's simply not compatible...will have to test it out again later this week. |
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February 20th, 2011, 08:09 PM | #59 |
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why is the cable to digital convertor less accurate?, I would think it would be more accurate. I know its not the same, but I hated dealing with the magnet style speed sensor for my bicycle. Thanks for the info, this will probably be one of my first 5 purchases for this bike.
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March 16th, 2011, 01:42 PM | #60 |
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@ randomwalk101... how did you get the gas indicator to work? im in the process of installing the guage as we speak and i dont want to chop any wires if i dont need to. lots say you cant do it on the carburetor style ninjas but ive talked to afew that say you can.. and incase your wondering yes i am a big baby and want my gas to be displayed. lol
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March 16th, 2011, 05:31 PM | #61 |
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on the carburated bikes you are able to have a working fuel gauge. however i wouldn't know where to splice that in. mine came already with a plug and play setup.
John, when you splice in the volt meter, make sure you hook them up to the correct lines. the way it was connected originally on my bike caused the battery to run flat. it somehow did not stop checking the voltage even with the bike off and must have sucked the battery dry over time. ive had it "fixed" hopefully, but only time will tell if they connected it up correctly this time. almost had to spend $150 on a new battery... W.
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March 16th, 2011, 06:07 PM | #62 |
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To get fuel gauge working, buy the correct plug&play wire kit. There's one for carb and one for FI.
Wayan: thx. Should be simple I hope. One to pos, ground and ignition. But I'm debating if I should put the af gauge in there instead. Who needs voltage? |
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March 16th, 2011, 06:48 PM | #63 |
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if you pop in the A/F gauge (something i have thought about a while back) you need to always remember to disconnect the A/F power source. i don't think you can splice that into the ignition system, it might overload it?
from what i've read, the power supply for the A/F is always hooked up to the battery for testing, and then you need to disconnect it after use (or add a switch somewhere). the sensor head sucks power to heat itself up or something, so even if the bike if turned off, it will drain your battery. personally i don't trust myself enough to remember and turn it off every time, lol... and push starting the bike is a PITA! trust me ive had to do THAT several times already...
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March 16th, 2011, 06:56 PM | #64 |
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Wayan, that's easy. Use a relay and the ig to control the relay to power your AF
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March 16th, 2011, 07:22 PM | #65 |
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true that. but im not an electrician, so its all a little foggy and unclear as to how the relay should be installed. with some know-how or a diagram im sure it would be easy enough.
but to be honest the real reason im not buying a full A/F setup (sensor and gauge) is because i dont want to spend so much money on something i actually only need once to tune properly. after that it will just be a: "not-so-useful-but-flashy-dial-that-looks-good" (like the voltmeter) that i already spent money on . what i plan to do instead is buy a new sensor which ill give to the mechanic who has the dyno machine. it hooks up the the dyno program and gives full log reports for A/F @ Rpm / power/ torque. the sensor that he got with the dyno was working when he got it a while back, but then broke (wore out) and he hasn't been able to find a replacement so easily. im 99% sure that we need this sensor: 3737 Bosch Wideband O2 Sensor LSU4.2 the picture looks basically identical to his broken one, and same plug. i checked the code on the sensor. the only code that matches is "LSU4.2" the other codes don't correspond he is checking again if he cant get it here in Indonesia, if not, ill be buying it from amazon or something
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March 16th, 2011, 07:39 PM | #66 |
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Bad fuel (lead) will burn sensor fast. US now all have unleaded so it should last awhile
But...on second thought. The unit is not weatherproof, and this can be a problem. May be I'll stick with voltmeter? Last futzed with by randomwalk101; March 16th, 2011 at 08:57 PM. |
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March 21st, 2011, 08:03 PM | #67 |
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Guys i realize this is a stupid question but speed sensor settings.. i have my koso all up and running but i took my bike for a test ride today looked down at the speedo and i was going 360 kmph and it was flashing lol i quickly realized i forgot to set my tire circumference. so i try to set it and i press select 10x like it says in the instructions book and i get nowhere just goes from clock to WAT to OIL, then i hold select for 3 seconds and it takes me to 100000 modes, i press select 10x at that point and it doesnt look like the picture in the instructions at all... does anyone have a step by step forum on how to do this for idiots who cant read instructions like me?
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March 21st, 2011, 09:09 PM | #68 |
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Can't read the manual??? WTF?? You're joking right?
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March 21st, 2011, 10:38 PM | #69 |
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In all honesty no. Maybe it's the fact I worked a 12 hour shift before attempting the setting. Or I clearly am retarded. I'll take another look at it tomorrow morning and see how it works for me, lol.
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March 22nd, 2011, 12:55 PM | #70 |
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hey, i just bought this gauge, does it display speed in KM. and also i hear the gas meter only works if u have the fuel injected version of the 250. How did u get urs to work?
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March 22nd, 2011, 01:33 PM | #71 |
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Please lift your eyeballs up to post #62..no need to do a search (as you usually should)
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March 22nd, 2011, 07:38 PM | #72 |
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haha so i realized i was temporarily retarded. took another crack at it after work today and got it with in 30 seconds.
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March 22nd, 2011, 08:08 PM | #73 |
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12 hour shift sounds narly... even unzipping your jeans can be challenging after that sometimes, let alone setting the tire circumference and the magnet quantity, haha
regarding the gas meter, its the other way around, carburated models will have the fuel sensor, while the FI models don't (they just have a warning light i think?)
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April 22nd, 2011, 07:10 AM | #74 |
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Where did you get the guage cluster at? I love the look of it with the custom fiberglass bezel.
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April 22nd, 2011, 07:20 AM | #75 |
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it can be sourced from:
sportisi shinto wayan |
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April 22nd, 2011, 09:25 AM | #76 |
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April 22nd, 2011, 10:25 AM | #77 |
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just replied to your PM
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April 22nd, 2011, 10:41 AM | #78 |
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Depending on cost... I might be interested in one too.
The KOSO P&P kits are appearing more and more from US sellers so the custom bezel is the only missing piece.
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April 22nd, 2011, 10:57 AM | #79 |
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latest next week ill get a price for you guys. still staying home after my confrontation with the asphalt on Monday, to let the wounds heal up
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No worries here. Take care!
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