January 10th, 2013, 09:18 AM | #41 | |
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January 10th, 2013, 09:46 AM | #42 |
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C'mon.... you gotta go for the Kawi.
Don't support the Big Red Machine,... unless you're a commi.
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January 10th, 2013, 10:01 AM | #43 |
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That's only to meet the EU A2 license norms by keeping the power to weight ratio under a certain limit. The US will get the 54hp version an so will India(I hope).
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January 10th, 2013, 10:05 AM | #44 |
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Good post and both bikes do go head to head for me, even with Honda's larger displacement. I don't have any seat time on either bike but would like to try them.
I give Kawasaki props for all the added features on the 300 and the new styling. Honda also deserves praise for styling, price, and really get a big thumbs up from me for bringing all 3 versions of the 500 (R, F, and X) to North America. I think the 500R will sell like hotcakes and many riders will choose it over the 300 just because of the displacement. I will give Suzuki's SV650 the nod because it is a great bike and can be turned it whatever you want (commuter, racebike, touring machine, etc). Many people swap to GSX-R suspension or go aftermarket and that can really transform the bike. I owned one for 4 years and loved it. My money will be going to the KTM Duke 390 if it comes to Canada and KTM doesn't go crazy with their pricing. It will be a great replacement for my current 2007 Suzuki DR-Z400SM which lacks the 6th gear and fuel injection.
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January 10th, 2013, 12:01 PM | #45 | |
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54hp @ the crank 47rwhp
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January 10th, 2013, 02:58 PM | #46 |
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January 10th, 2013, 05:24 PM | #47 |
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Easy, CB500.
The Honda 500's are heavy, but Honda is king of mass centralization. My 480lb monster feels like a Ninja 250r once you start rolling. Parking lots are a breeze. Dirt bars also offer amazing control/leverage. CB500 for me.
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January 11th, 2013, 01:17 PM | #48 | |
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January 11th, 2013, 06:32 PM | #49 |
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I believe an ecu remap should do the trick
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January 12th, 2013, 01:25 AM | #50 | |
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January 12th, 2013, 11:41 AM | #51 |
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First dyno we've seen? Courtesy of Tyga Performance in Thailand.
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January 12th, 2013, 06:42 PM | #52 |
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Seems low
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January 12th, 2013, 06:53 PM | #53 |
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i figured it would break 50 with exhaust... tnr4 is right, they made a smooth torque curve with not much power...
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January 12th, 2013, 08:04 PM | #54 |
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Yeah, bummer that the Honda has such a low redline.
I mean, on the Ninjette things don't start to get interesting until 8 or 9k. Then it's a lot of fun. |
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January 12th, 2013, 08:18 PM | #55 |
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sad, although that torque might make it a fun hooligan bike.
I bet a tweaked 300 puts out close to same as that, and I much rather have a 300 w 40+hp than a 500 w 45. |
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January 12th, 2013, 08:45 PM | #56 |
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Yep, that extra weight kills it
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January 12th, 2013, 09:04 PM | #57 |
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I took alot of weight off a 250 and weighed all the parts,
http://www.cbr250.net/forum/cbr250-p...rovements.html its alot lighter than my Ninja 250 which is in race trim. But yeah 20kg would be hard to take off the 500. Figures are impressive though, 10 more hp than the stock 300 and shitload more torque. (compare apples with apples) I'm still keen on a 300 as the next lil track bike. |
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January 13th, 2013, 07:01 PM | #58 |
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I got got back from the international motorcycle show in MPLS and all 3 of the Honda 500 models were on the floor. I'm 5'11" 190lbs and feel a little cramped on my ninja 300. The 500 was very comfortable in the stock position for me. My knees were under the tank easily and the seat had more height and was much more comfortable than the stock 300. I think a lot of people who feel cramped on a Ninja 300 or CBR250 are going to buy this bike. I just glanced at the prices, if I remember right it was $5500 for the naked bike and $6k for the full farings. You could feel the extra weight of the bike just sitting on it. For the smaller, shorter riders, the ninja will be a better choice. I think I'm going to have to shop for some rearsets.
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January 13th, 2013, 07:36 PM | #59 |
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I was there too. Sat on a 500 and didn't like the stance. I'm 5'6 ish
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January 15th, 2013, 07:20 PM | #60 |
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If it were me it would be hard to get a CBR 500 when there is such a thing called the CBR 600.
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January 16th, 2013, 10:02 AM | #61 |
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Phoenix, there is a huge difference that can be seen just sitting on them.
IMO the 500 feels cheap
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January 16th, 2013, 10:10 AM | #62 |
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Yeah, but there's a lot more differences between a CBR600RR and a CBR500 than just the displacement of the engine. They deliver power very differently and handle themselves on the road very differently as well.
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January 16th, 2013, 10:57 AM | #63 |
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The 500 doesn't cut it looks wise. It's almostttt there..but I don't like how big the gap is from the front..they should have dipped the nose down a bit more. Also, rear passenger hand grips? Delete! Those look like horns or something. Don't like the seat layout either, so close to being a banana seat in my eyes. And after looking at the controls in pictures, I agree, everything looks very cheap. Honda's are just so boring looking..I felt the same way about the CBR250R.
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January 16th, 2013, 04:28 PM | #64 |
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You might not like the look of the passenger grab handles and rear seat but I can guarantee a passenger would feel much more at home on the back of the 500 compared to the high rear seat and lack of handles on the 600. I know my wife liked the grab handles on my old 03 VFR800. An easy fix for those who do not like the look would be to buy a seat cowl and remove the handles. Remember the price of the 500 when you mention the cheapness. I think its going to be a big seller for Honda. Will I buy one? Probably not. KTM keeps tempting me with their supermotos.
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January 18th, 2013, 01:23 PM | #65 |
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I almost waited for the cbr 500 but the higher price and extra weight plus my lack of patience put me on the 300.
I personally think the 500 looks fine. I dont think Hp will be a problem on this bike. It is selected as the mount for some racing class that the 250 ninja used to be so there will be lots of aftermarket support for it. But if power was the end all beat all then a cbr600 would still smoke the modded 500 and cost the same or less in the end. Im commuting 60 miles each way on my 300 and it is more comfortable, more stable and easier to ride than my yami warrior 1700 was. It is just fun to ride. And I can ring it out hard and still it is stable and manageable and doesnt get me in trouble. This is another way of saying slow but it can be just as much fun. |
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January 18th, 2013, 01:29 PM | #66 | |
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January 18th, 2013, 01:51 PM | #67 |
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do you start every sentence with um? Will writing like Beavis talks make me cool? What your trying to argue about is my point. The 500 is a cheap entry level bike that you yourself were disappointed with the dyno chart. I just said there will be plenty of aftermarket support to get more power out of it but at the cost of all that power, If power was your objective than it would be cheaper and more productive to just by a 600. Personally I would wrather have the 500 myself.
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January 18th, 2013, 01:53 PM | #68 |
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Jiggs, you need to re-do your avatar showing off a finger gun because every time I see it I imagine you going Pew Pew Pew Pew Pew Pew Pew Pew Pew
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January 18th, 2013, 08:13 PM | #69 | |
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January 19th, 2013, 01:38 PM | #70 |
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That's why I rarely give opinions on forums. Everything gets away from the original poster's question and pissing contests get started. I will stick to posting up my mods and occasionally provide useful information that may help others.
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January 19th, 2013, 06:25 PM | #71 |
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The little Cibber's front fender, passenger seat, and exhaust are all hideous.
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January 19th, 2013, 07:55 PM | #72 |
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Lol don't let jiggy get you down... He's a professional prick, he can't help it...
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January 19th, 2013, 07:57 PM | #73 |
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I thought you had a good point. I'm not sure why your post was questioned. I think you should keep posting and maybe others should think before they reply. Enjoy your new 300
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January 19th, 2013, 09:18 PM | #74 |
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The 300 slaps the **** out of the Honda in the looks department...
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January 29th, 2013, 09:24 AM | #75 |
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Anyone know the release date of the cbr500? So tempting. I'm a Kawi fan, but Honda has done a great job out smarting kawi. Just when Kawi thought they had something to own the entire entry level range Honda brings out a 500. As someone who is looking to upgrade from a 250, the 300 maybe too similar. A 500 maybe the perfect size for someone like me who is not interested in a ss. Also the price difference is only a little over a grand for 250cc more, not bad at all on paper. Can't wait to see them both side by side...
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January 29th, 2013, 09:32 AM | #77 |
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The old Kawi 500 was ugly and same with the current 650. If it was more similar to styling cues of the zx6, zx10, or even the 300 I'd be sold on it.
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they dumped the 500 for a 650 at a time when most americans were upsizing everything from their mcdonalds fries to their homes. people are slowly starting to come back around, realizing that moderation is probably a more sustainable approach to life in general. I foresee this selling well. It's a smaller bike that will get good gas mileage, and should have enough power to sustain itself at speed with decent reserve acceleration. I wish the US power numbers were better though, on paper it seems capable of a lot more. 60-65 hp seems more like what it should have. |
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