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July 2nd, 2017, 12:27 PM | #42 |
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Is that the fairing that goes around the headlight? I can snap some pictures of it, I think that had a crack in it...
And yes, the Diavel is pure wickedness. Makes my old V-Rod Muscle feel like a tricycle. I had it modified a bit to round out the low end lag as emissions just chokes up those engines something terrible. It's a dream now, expect for a rough suspension. Ducati told me it was 'too dangerous' for me to be on stock as I was so far under their target rider weight at 110 pounds. Customs suspension sprung to my weight tamed it so I could actually start scrubbing the rubber off the sides of the tires. Only problem is that I don't really want to take it down a basic dirt road. I think this little Ninja is going to make a gnarley scrambler for out here in Moab. I'm already falling in love with it.
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July 2nd, 2017, 12:42 PM | #43 |
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OK, I found a 130/90-16 dual sport tire. I don't know anything about it other than its size:
http://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tube...tires/t11aa93c Even better, a Trail Wing in 120/90: http://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tube...otorcycle-tire This Kenda says it's OK for front. It's a 90-100/16, so a little narrower than stock: http://www.americanmototire.com/cata...oducts_id=2636 |
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July 2nd, 2017, 12:42 PM | #44 |
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FYI, Murph's Kits sells Ninja 250 carb rebuild kits with genuine Keihin needles/o-rings, and the fitted carb bowl O-ring you are looking for.
https://www.murphskits.com/product_i...roducts_id=464 |
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July 2nd, 2017, 12:49 PM | #45 |
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Oh, nice tips - thanks, guys! Is Murph on this forum or an online site?
Tipple Jim - I think those tires aren't made for tubeless tires...but I could be wrong. As an FYI I've included some pictures of the fairings. Unfortunately, both of them have cracks so am not sure they can be used(?). Check them out. The larger one has cracks along one side and the smaller fairing has little cracks along the bottom (where my fingers are). I'll post pics shortly.
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July 2nd, 2017, 12:55 PM | #46 |
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If anyone is interested, here are some pics of the parts I have, no idea if these would be useful but take a look and see;
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July 2nd, 2017, 12:59 PM | #47 |
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The fairings are made of ABS, so they're relatively easy to patch with some fiberglass cloth inside the crack and ABS cement. Guys here have fixed them, so maybe start a thread asking how if you are interested.
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July 2nd, 2017, 01:05 PM | #48 |
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These won't be used by me as I'm only keeping the side fairings and cutting them part ways (wasn't your bike like that, Triple Jim? Perhaps I have you confused with someone on here). I'll post them in the 250 forum on here if Ram Jet doesn't want them (or is there a Classified section I've missed?).
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July 2nd, 2017, 01:06 PM | #49 |
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Not sure how to tag someone in this forum yet so I'm just quoting you to make sure you get first chance at either of the fairings I have. Check them out and let me know.
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July 2nd, 2017, 01:52 PM | #50 |
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Yes, I tapered my side fairings almost to a point at the rear, and cut off the grab handles from the rear peg mounts. That left frame tabs that are about perfect for turn signals. You can barely see the LED signals in this photo.
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July 3rd, 2017, 12:21 PM | #51 |
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Love that picture! I'm thinking of cutting my side fairings a bit closer to the tank and leaving the top of the rear tire more exposed. Speaking of fairings, I was going to post the ones I don't need in the Motorcycle-related for sale section but it says I do not have permission to post. Not sure what I am doing wrong?
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July 3rd, 2017, 01:23 PM | #52 |
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You may not quite have been approved for posting there yet. I think you have to reach 25 posts, and then a day or two might go by. Alex can fill you in.
Just be careful that you don't trim too many mounting points off the side fairings. I left the bolt at the bottom and two rubber mounts intact. I also wanted to hide the ugly stuff like the electrics and coolant tank. After trimming the rear fairing I made a new mount for the tail light and tag to get them closer to the seat. I also put LEDs in the left and right unused sections of the tail light and wired them to the center lamp for a bigger brake light. I tried using the side sections for turn signals, but wasn't happy with the visibility. Thanks, it's a cool photo, taken by US129 Photo, I think. She's fun to ride with, and doesn't hold me back. She definitely needs some knee pucks. On one trip through the dragon, she was on the 250 and I was on my '89 Moto Guzzi Mille GT just staying behind her, and I occasionally dragged a puck! |
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July 3rd, 2017, 01:54 PM | #53 |
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I'd really like ot see some up close pictures of your mods. That back end is keeping me up at night trying to figure it out. I literally dreamt of it last night...sigh. I'll give it another day to post the fairings, I'd really like to send them to someone this week if I could. And avoid the posting on eBay hassle.
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July 3rd, 2017, 02:05 PM | #54 |
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The 250 is behind a couple other motorcycles at the moment. I'll be digging it out in a couple days, so if that'll help, I'll take some photos of it then.
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July 3rd, 2017, 02:30 PM | #55 | |
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Sorry to be so late getting back to you. The upper fairing is pretty badly fractured but I think it's salvageable - maybe. The lower/chin fairing is a-bit too far gone and would require a ton of fiberglass and body filler to repair. What are you asking for the upper fairing? If you don't want to post it here hit my E-mail at "billalbertson@mail.com". Bill (Ram Jet) |
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July 3rd, 2017, 03:59 PM | #57 |
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Thanks for the explanation. Would it be considered bad etiquette to post in the 1986 - 2007 Ninja 250R Farkles forum? IF so, I'll go ahead and do the eBay thing.
Triple Jim - yes, whenever you happen to get to your bike and have your camera handy, I'd be pretty interested in seeing what you've done. I understand about the bikes being buried, just had to reorganize my garage so this little Ninja could fit happily last weekend.
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July 3rd, 2017, 04:53 PM | #58 |
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Instead of rolling the bike outside for photos, I took a few in place. Three show the underside and how it bolts to the frame. It's made from 0.090" thick aluminum road sign material, probably something like 5052-H32, because it took the 90 degree bend at the top without cracking. As you can see, it mounts the tail light and the license plate. The extra wires around the back of the bulb socket are power for the side LEDs. The small wire going through the rubber grommet goes to an LED license plate light. The license plate is mouted with two bolts at the moment. It sits tightly against the plate so it doesn't vibrate and crack. I removed the rear part of the rear fender.
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July 3rd, 2017, 05:52 PM | #60 |
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Ah, now I'm following you! Thanks for the pictures . I need to take off that whole back /side fairing to see what there is to work with, I'm thinking of cutting the seat back a bit and have a rack behind it but am not sure of the brace underneath. I'd like to go with a naked look, but I tend to travel a fair bike on my bikes so want a place to strap on an overnight bag.
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July 3rd, 2017, 06:13 PM | #61 |
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Again, you're welcome. The stock seat's rear section is flat and nearly level. You can see in the photo I posted that a modest tail bag straps down nicely. It'll take larger packs too. I understand if your plan includes modifying the seat though.
Bill, thanks... As I remember, the fender has a rear section that you can just unbolt and remove. When you do that, the front section has a couple pieces that hang down on the left and right sides, so yes, I then trimmed them off with a hacksaw. |
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July 4th, 2017, 05:48 AM | #64 |
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July 4th, 2017, 10:49 AM | #65 |
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I've got a chopped 'fender' that came with my bike - you're free to have it if you can pay shipping costs. Somebody actually did a fairly decent job, too.
And on a similar note, if you are in the market for pregen clip ons, I've got a good condition set of Woodcraft clip ons I purchased for a project, but ended up not using. Retail for about $160, but I'm sure we could work something out for far less than that. |
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July 4th, 2017, 11:38 AM | #66 |
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Thanks for thinking to offer those up for sale. I've been surprised by how much I actually am liking the bars and might not change them after all. Can you post a picture of that fender? I'm getting into the rear-end today to try and determine if I'll be cutting that frame/seat bar or not and starting the process of the fender mounting project.
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July 4th, 2017, 12:08 PM | #67 |
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New Scrambler Thread
Okay, not entirely sure how to do this, but at the suggestion of others, I have started a new thread int he 250 forum for this project. Hoping others might have some tips or tricks, or perhaps something I discover can help someone attempting the same build. I hope this link works (?).
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...82#post1180682
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July 4th, 2017, 01:14 PM | #68 | |
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Stock fender looks like this... It was trimmed right along the line where it hits the body. Here's the underside of the stock fender... See the round yellow holes with the body visible? The license plate bracket was removed from the stock fender, and slipped between the fender and the body, then bolted down. And here's the modified version. This came on the bike when it was purchased from the previous owner. I'm using it as a commuter in all weather conditions, so I reinstalled a stock fender. It's pretty easy to modify yourself in 10-15 minutes and a decent hack saw, but I figured if you wanted to save the trouble and time of cutting it yourself, you're welcome to have this one. It has just been sitting around the garage, and may get trashed at some point. Shipping will probably run $7-10 for the box depending on where it is going, so it's up to you whether or not that's worth your time Is there a license plate light? No. But there was a decent amount of tail-light light present, so I never had too much of an issue with it. If you go that route, you'll need to put turn signal bulbs into the rear house, and rewire it. Not too hard. |
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July 4th, 2017, 01:21 PM | #69 |
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Ah, I see now. Pictures are oh-so-helpful. I'm actually thinking of going naked in the rear...with just a little fender mounted like a mud flap and dirt bike/ dual sport tiny blinkers from the sides. Totally switching it up. But that's the idea at the moment, and as I've learned from my only other build, ideas morph into reality as the build develops, so I'll keep this in mind as I might want to go this route after seeing what's involved with my current idea!
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July 4th, 2017, 01:43 PM | #70 |
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I can say that the side panels do cover up a lot of electrical components; contrary to how it might look, you may be best served by leaving them attached.
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July 4th, 2017, 02:08 PM | #71 |
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I hear ya'. I'm hoping to reduce it all to dual sport blinkers and small LED brake light. Planning on cutting the side fairings just past the water fill reservoir and then leaving the rest open/naked from there on back and heat shrinking the wires along the back of the frame line. But like I said, this is the 'idea' stage, which may change immediately as I am now taking the parts off the rear end to see what I'm working with...and trying to remember to keep breathing... This is a bit unnerving as I am far outside of my comfort zone, but am loving it .
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July 4th, 2017, 02:09 PM | #72 |
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...it all does seem a bit disrespectful and sacrilegious as the basic bike is such a nice little design. I strip it with all due respect, lol.
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July 4th, 2017, 02:30 PM | #73 |
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The basic design of the pregens is OK, but more of a 1990s design than a modern one. It's very heavy looking at the rear, so I didn't feel guilty about trimming a lot of stuff to clean it up. If I end up getting another one for the track, I'll leave it stock.
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July 4th, 2017, 02:53 PM | #74 |
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Stripped down to naked and discovered the grab handle assembly might make a decent brake light/license plate mount. Threw that big brake light back on just few around the block test rides to see how the carb cleaning/rebuild goes next week. I prefer to at least look legal, anyway. I like the bare bones of this bike a whole lot. Tons of potential. Am encouraged!
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July 4th, 2017, 07:15 PM | #76 |
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That's hysterical - I literally just called the front fender a Strom Trooper yesterday.
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July 4th, 2017, 07:38 PM | #77 |
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Not really, that's why my theme was a "standard" from the '70s. Notice the way I painted the side panels to suggest the side covers that were common in that era. I also put the model designation "EX250S" on the sides, the "S" referring to "standard".
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Really a retro look. I like it, it's beautiful. Reminds me of my dinosaur 82' Honda Ascot,
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July 7th, 2017, 12:54 PM | #79 |
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Dual Sport Tires!
Found some in 16", thought I'd update this thread. Still not entirely decided if I'll go with these or swap out to a 17" and get slightly bigger dual sports.
http://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tube...tm_campaign=eb
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July 7th, 2017, 01:13 PM | #80 |
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You haven't found a 16" front, have you? I tried pretty hard and didn't come up with anything that was really dual sport.
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