August 5th, 2011, 10:07 AM | #81 |
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For the 2009 Cal24, there was mongo bonus at a location in Portland, OR. I made it up there and back from San Jose, CA, along with another few bonuses within 24 hrs. 1450 miles or so.
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August 5th, 2011, 10:32 AM | #82 |
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That's a crazy ride Alex. I'm guessing you ride your R1200T for these CAL24's?
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August 5th, 2011, 10:51 AM | #83 |
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For the past few years, yes. But I did complete a Cal24 on a ZX-12R a few years back, and finished well. It's less fun on a sportbike.
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August 5th, 2011, 09:33 PM | #85 |
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Wifey and little monster will likely join for some donuts in the morning.
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August 6th, 2011, 12:08 AM | #87 |
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damn schedule didn't work out for me =( anyways, have a fun and safe ride guys, really wish i could've joined you guys for this... hopefully this isn't the last meet/ride before summer officially ends...
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August 6th, 2011, 09:28 AM | #88 |
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August 6th, 2011, 05:44 PM | #89 |
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Well that was fun! Tri has all of the good group pics, so hopefully some of them will make it up here as well. Here are a few of mine:
GaryJ made it out with us! (Left to right: GaryJ, Eugene, Andre) Gallery link to all of my pics. There was a little excitement on the ride, but luckily it was limited to some relatively minor bike repairs rather than any people repairs. Good meeting everyone, and we should clearly do this more often.
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Of course, Andre! You can get the full-res version from that link to my gallery.
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Thank you Alex, i'll make sure to label that you took the photo in the description on Facebook!
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August 6th, 2011, 06:44 PM | #93 |
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Here are a couple of the photos I took during the ride today.
The link to all of the photos can be found at my Picasa album
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August 6th, 2011, 06:44 PM | #94 |
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I just want to thank everybody that came out with us to the ride. There were parts of the ride that were great, no doubt about that but because this was my first group ride, I have learned a few things as OP and organizer.
While I completely enjoy and encourage having the more advanced riders out with us, I think it made some of the newer riders a little stressed. Especially since it's a road that is quite challenging with several obstacles (sinkholes, gravel, rocks, narrow roads, hairpins, switchbacks, decreasing radius turns, and not to mention most of them are blind). I think that if I were to organize another ride for newer riders like myself, I would change a few things. First, the lead would set a much slower pace so that it would be a less agressive ride. Faster riders are welcome to move along past the lead of the group to the meet point. Second, possibly a smaller group or splitting a larger group making it faster riders in one with their own lead and sweeper with the slower riders with their own lead and sweeper. Third, seeing armor in action is a huge eye opener and while we tend to not have this issue, everybody should be geared up as much as possible. Also, thank you Alex and GaryJ for coming out with us. It is great to meet the man behind it all and I must say, you guys are FAST! (Edit: Forgot to mention your sense of humor is too fast for me too... I never know how to react to the things you say.) P.S. Hopefully Tri's wife will let him ride again. |
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I dunno Brian - I agree with some of this, and disagree with some as well. IMO - a group ride is no different than a solo ride when it comes to the most basic rule: don't ride over one's head. The difference, of course, is that in a group ride there is this natural temptation to try and follow the rider directly in front of you, sometimes right past one's own comfort limits. The problem that crops up isn't the fault of the group ride (or its leader, or its sweep, or anyone else), it's that individual rider letting that temptation get the best of them.
The best way to handle that in a group ride is to make sure that people know they won't be left behind. And from a rider's perspective, it's important to always know where you're going and where the next meeting point is. As challenging as Mt. Hamilton/Mines can be, one thing that it is supreme on is its navigational simplicity. It's utterly impossible to get lost. If you lose the rider in front of you, keep going until you see them again. There are no intersections, there are no complicated directions, it's as simple as that. Someone who idles along at well below the speed limit can still have fun on a ride like this, with a group that will always be waiting at the next meet-up point. This can be emphasized more at the ride start, and we likely could all have been much clearer about this early this morning. There's never a need for anyone to ever feel any undue stress. In a group ride that does go over more complicated routes, it is key to make sure that people understand how to wait for the rider behind them at intersections. If everyone follows this basic rule, and trusts that everyone else will, then there is that much less worry and concern for newer riders to worry about getting lost and left behind. That confidence that they will be A-OK as long as they keep progressing at whatever speed they choose is important. And of course - a sweep is never a bad idea. The best group rides tend to be ones that feel like solo rides that happen to have other people along to share the fun. All riders should retain the flexibility to move along at whatever pace they are comfortable with, and in all likelihood, they will find another rider or several riders who are on the same wavelength anyway.
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August 6th, 2011, 07:08 PM | #96 |
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Man I wish I could have come. So whens the next one???
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What I mean by "solo ride with people" is more of a mindset/attitude of the actual riding experience itself. There's only one person at the controls, and they are solely responsible for their safety, but just as importantly, of how much enjoyment they are getting out of the ride. The pace they choose, the other bikes they choose to stay close to, the times they decide to hang back, or even to take a break along the way, all of these are always within our control; that's what I meant. Being on a group ride doesn't change those responsibilities, or opportunities.
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Although I do believe that having a slower pace set for those that are unsure of their abilities could help them regulate and prevent those "oh crap too fast" moments. I only say this because if I hadnt used the GPS to warn me of upcoming hairpins, my braking and incoming speeds could have been very different. Or I might have riding tortoise level speeds the entire way. |
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But, and this is a big but, all of this is simply my opinion. I know that there are people that see this a little differently, and believe that newbie group rides should be much more locked down, with everything from front to back is boiled down to the lowest common denominator for safety. I disagree with that approach, and I think in some ways it may give a false of security to some, but that doesn't mean that philosophy is not out there and there aren't rides set up exactly like that.
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August 6th, 2011, 08:13 PM | #101 |
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Nice pics i like looking at them looks fun. x]
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August 6th, 2011, 08:38 PM | #102 |
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I'm glad to see there was a blue pre-gen representing!
"armor in action" sounds scary -- what happened??
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Again, I think we are on the same page for the most part. However, I think that as a group of people doing something we enjoy, we could help those that are newer advance while minimizing risks. We encourage gear for protection, I dont see how encouraging accurate speed recognition through example in a group is entirely a bad thing. Maybe not to the extent of "every" aspect of the ride but just a few. I think both you and I understand each other well enough so I dont have much more to say. It was great seeing you. Hope you'll be able to make our next outing. Anybody have objections to big sur? Might be far for some. |
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The good news on the excitement part is that thanks to a serious dose of 4th gear clutch slipping to get, and keep, the bike going in slow traffic on the freeway and from stoplight to stoplight in final leg through town on the way to Tri's house, we were able to get the bike home and safe in his garage this afternoon. Missed not being able to make the reverse run back Mines/Hamilton on the way home that was originally planned, but knowing we dodged the expensive and difficult tow process, it was all good to help out. Hopefully I can make it out on another Ninja 250 group ride in the future! P.S. If Tina's on here ...... remember to use that "delete" key on your camera, for that one rather ...... errr ...... no-see photo that was captured late into the day. |
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The alleged photo had to do with that mini-bike-multiple-rider-ferrying-service that was used to great effect. We're confident Tina's picture taking gadget will have had a rare malfunction. Or at least we're hoping.
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Ohhhhhhhh the pocketbike. When you guys pulled up, I was so in shock trying to wrap my head around it. That thing looked and sounded tiny buzzing its way up the hill. It'd be epic if we had a video cam of it.
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August 7th, 2011, 08:52 AM | #108 |
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Needless to say, the left side of the bike had a stroke and decided it needed to be replaced. haha. Armor did it's job and thank God I upgraded the back foam pad to a CE Dainese back protector.
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August 7th, 2011, 09:15 AM | #109 |
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All in your head
Just speaking for myself, I never felt any pressure to keep up with the lead group, and it was great to have more experienced riders there. To depend on the person in front of you to set your own limits--that just doesn't make sense to me. How are you ever going to take a twisty road alone if you don't ride at your own pace? Maybe just laying that out to everyone at the start of the ride, "Hey, don't feel any pressure to keep up with the person in front of you, just go your own pace." would have been appropriate. What else can you say? As someone at the back with less than 6 months experience I can say we were going at a fun, but very reasonable pace. New people shouldn't feel intimidated showing up for these group rides.
Gary J went above and beyond in helping out! I was also thinking of turning around and heading back to the Junction alone because Mines road was so fun! It was an awesome ride. Thanks all for organizing this! |
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Yes he did. It was extremely nice of him. Glad you had fun. There is great value in that route in both view and challenges. I'd definitely be down to do it again sometime. I wasnt in the mood for a rootbeer float this time so I'll definitely need to get one next time.
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really had a good time riding with you guys...
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Forgot I had this. The one and only picture I took that day. =)
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August 8th, 2011, 12:34 PM | #115 |
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I'll plan on doing the same route (though in the opposite direction for variety) next Sunday, and all are welcome. Group Ride thread posted right up here.
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OK, there are some stories that aren't being told here. "Either"? Plural? What the heck did you guys do up on the hill?
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