Which exhaust do you have and why?

[BlueRaven]

i'm currently in the market for one to increase the power but don't want it to be louder than the stock. is there such a thing?

[Rocketman]

Originally Posted by Viper-Byte

James, the bike redlines at 13000rpm and hits the limiter at about 13500rpm, the graph stops just over 13000rpm, so it is not way over redline...

Thanks for clearing that up dave...

[Viper-Byte]

Originally Posted by kbryant

Well personally, I prefer the long quiet version. But my both my sons prefer the standard muffler.

I too prefer the Quiet, though I have not heard the standard in person, so can't fully say, but I am happy with my Quiet

So you are not biased to AreaP exhausts in anyway?

[Jiu Jitsu Player]

I just got my 2 bros CF slip on in the mail today. I gotta say the pics I've seen of this exhaust do NOT do it any justice! The CF style on this thing is straight up gorgeous. Plus I hear it roars like a damn T-rex. I can't wait to get this thing installed tonight.

[M-Oorb]

As of right now running stock. I mean hey...it was free. I've been teetering for a while (about 5 months) on whether to get a new exhaust or not. I mean I wanted one for the looks, sound, and whatever performance may come of it. That being said...i was having a hard time wrapping my head around spending 500 bucks on one. Well I decided I'm gunna have this bike for a veryyyyy long time and if I want something and can afford it...might as well stop thinking about it and do it. So today I contacted Area P and purchased a 15in cf with a 2in diameter core with the last 2 piece tip that they had . Can't wait to get home after college and put it on

[kbryant]

Originally Posted by TnNinjaGirl

Hey Kerry, how old are your sons?

23 & 28. We had them when we were really young....

[BoogieQ]

Two Brothers chrome here.

1.) I love the sound wide open
2.) I can't stand other cars not hearing me when I am right next to them (like stock exhaust) and now they know I am there.
3.) At low RPM it isn't rediculous for the neighbors and the harley guys are WAY louder at earlier times in the day.

[1hardryder4life]

Area P DEI quiet insert on a 12" can. perfect combo IMO.

[bounceya]

HMF also great sound,you can here me comming now. Cheaper than others i looked at, looks good too.

[Jiu Jitsu Player]

Installed the 2 bros last night. I love the look of this pipe. The sound is suuuuuuper loud though. It's not bad but its definitely a lot louder than I thought it would be. I can barely hear my ipod inside my helmet!

[TnNinjaGirl]

Ya, those 2 Bros are really freakin loud. Everyone knows what bike it is and what exhaust it is though. Every single time someone asks about mine they ask if it's a 2 Bros. Then they go on to say something about how they heard me about a mile away. Maybe I should turn the go-juice down a little... nah...

[BoogieQ]

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Player

Installed the 2 bros last night. I love the look of this pipe. The sound is suuuuuuper loud though. It's not bad but its definitely a lot louder than I thought it would be. I can barely hear my ipod inside my helmet!

If you have not done so, the 'silencer' tip they sell for like $20 actually does lower the output level by a decent amount. Without that tip I found mine to be too loud. The tip lowered it enough to be tolerable while still sounding great.

P1 Power Tip.

[FroggyGreenInSD]

AreaP Quiet Core Carbon Fiber. Why? Because I won it in the raffle.

I was actually going to buy one anyway, for the power increase. I think the 18" is a good compromise on the sound, louder than stock but not so loud that the neighbors get mad.

[Jiu Jitsu Player]

Originally Posted by BoogieQ

If you have not done so, the 'silencer' tip they sell for like $20 actually does lower the output level by a decent amount. Without that tip I found mine to be too loud. The tip lowered it enough to be tolerable while still sounding great.

P1 Power Tip.

Im still trying to get used to it. I may look into getting one though because there are times when it's way too loud.

[caferacer]

ear plugs, dude, ear plugs.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by caferacer

ear plugs, dude, ear plugs.

always!

[mcteague]

Originally Posted by caferacer

ear plugs, dude, ear plugs.

Make sure you buy enough for everybody. Just plugging your ears and subjecting everyone you pass to the hearing damaging noise is a bit self centered, to put it mildly.

Tim

[caferacer]

I haven't ridden without them in years...i can hear better with them in and the road noise at speed is just annoying.

[paterick4o8]

Originally Posted by caferacer

ear plugs, dude, ear plugs.

yes indeed. I hate riding w/o em

[caferacer]

Tim,
The deal with the loud pipes goes like this...how many times have you had a SUV or a mini van (with dark tint, DVDs playing in the back , driver on cell phone in front) start to move into your lane for no apparent reason other than the phone conversation is just a little too taxing on the brain. With a stock pipe, no one in that position is aware that you are there. The louder than stock pipe is just a couple quick revs away from being noticed with a quick jerk back into its own lane by the SUV. I know this is a touchy subject but I am confident that an aftermarket pipe has saved my life many times over many many years of riding. Just a thought.

[capt_bugaloo]

If you need loud noise to stay out of danger, why not just drive around with your horn button taped down tight?

When I hear someone say that they need to be loud to get attention and stay out of trouble, I have to think that at least some of the problem may be a lack of riding ability. I've been riding street bikes since 1992, and have maybe 100,000 street miles. I've always had stock exhausts on my motorcycles, and yet have never had an accident or crash.

I've had the occasional close call, of course, but riding alertly is what has always saved my bacon, not making a lot of annoying noise and pissing off my neighbors. If you really need to make noise in certain situations to get a cager's attention, again, that's what horns are designed for.

[caferacer]

I agree that rider skill does take the cake when it comes to safety. However, many (not all) 250r riders are new to the sport and have not developed the skills needed for many emergency situations. The pipe noise is not used as a safety tool except as a way to let others on the road know that you are there and have the same lane rights as they do. I cannot speak for Canada, but in many countries (not in North America) that I have had the privilege to ride in, motorcycles are considered a nuisance on the road by many drivers and it takes all tools to stay safe on the road. Like I said, it is a touchy subject.

CR

[headshrink]

Originally Posted by capt_bugaloo

If you need loud noise to stay out of danger, why not just drive around with your horn button taped down tight?

LOL, that's funny.

Does anyone use earplugs for STOCK pipes? I don't.

[1hardryder4life]

they use earplugs to prevent hearing damage from wind noise, not so much the stock exhaust sound level.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by headshrink

Does anyone use earplugs for STOCK pipes? I don't.

Relevant thread, worth the read.

[capt_bugaloo]

Originally Posted by headshrink

Does anyone use earplugs for STOCK pipes? I don't.

With a quiet bike, you can still suffer hearing damage from the wind whistling past your helmet at highway speeds.
For around town at low speeds I don't bother with them, but I have used earplugs when touring. They can make a real difference; after 8 hours on the open road the sound of the road can leave you with ringing ears.

[RaceBikeRentals]

[Nemy]

Originally Posted by RaceBikeRentals

can you add that exhaust to your part out list?!?!

Originally Posted by capt_bugaloo

If you need loud noise to stay out of danger, why not just drive around with your horn button taped down tight?

When I hear someone say that they need to be loud to get attention and stay out of trouble, I have to think that at least some of the problem may be a lack of riding ability.

Again noone is saying that a louder pipe is an end all and be all to safe riding. But as great as rider ability can be, if a louder pipe can PREVENT a car from merging in the first place I think it's already been worth the money. Sure, I might be able to avoid the cage, but isn't it still better if you don't have to?!

[capt_bugaloo]

Sure, I might be able to avoid the cage, but isn't it still better if you don't have to?!

Exactly, but avoid the cage with alert riding. Why use a passive system like a constant loud noise when you can be proactive and outmanuever the careless cager?

[Alex]

Originally Posted by RaceBikeRentals

'Splain please! What is that interesting set of pipes on that bike?

[Nemy]

Originally Posted by capt_bugaloo

Exactly, but avoid the cage with alert riding. Why use a passive system like a constant loud noise when you can be proactive and outmanuever the careless cager?

but the key word is "might be able to avoid the cage". Not all cases of cagers can be avoided/outmanuevered or do you seriously think that every motorcycle accident is due to lack of alert riding? People choose to wear ATGATT and install HIDs when they can also be considered a passive protective system...

I don't have an excessively loud pipe nor do I like seeing/hearing them, but I still don't know why some people are so adamantly against louder options when some of us believe it gives us the chance to prevent the danger from even happening?!

[VeX]

the most 'recent' threads:

Which exhaust do you have and why?

2008 250 Ninja with GSX-R exhaust

look at my new gsxr exhaust

GSXR Exhaust on the 250

06-07 GSXR exhaust swap question.

I see someone is doing research on their exhaust options!

[Nemy]

lol from the looks of it, cochese apparently subscribed to all of them

[Cochese]

I bought a Area P header from Kerry and am working on fabbing a GSXR can to it.

Super high flow, looks awesome, lightest option out there.

Oh, and $350 for a "full system".

[capt_bugaloo]

Originally Posted by Nemy

do you seriously think that every motorcycle accident is due to lack of alert riding? ]

There might be the occasional car-to-motorcycle that the rider can't avoid, but in my experience such events are few and far between. Someone mentioned in another thread the concept of "blocking positions", and I'm a very strong believer in that concept .

If you're riding alertly and paying attention to what's going on around you, you will see dangerous situations as they are setting up, and you ride to outmanuever them.

On those rare occasions where you do need to make noise to alert an idiot cager, then you make use of your horn.

I still don't know why some people are so adamantly against louder options

Apparently you've never lived in an area where inconsiderate neighbors with loud exhausts have repeatedly woken you up early in the morning. I have, and it's rather annoying to deal with.

[RaceBikeRentals]

Originally Posted by Alex

'Splain please! What is that interesting set of pipes on that bike?

One of the racers out at Willow Springs is making these. They are too loud for street use, and for many tracks, but are making killer HP. We're still testing to see where they'll end up. Cool looking pipe, though eh?

[Cali619]

Can we get back to the subject of the thread and have the arguments on loud vs. quiet exhaust pro's and con's in PM's or a different thread? That subject is debatable all day and night.

[paterick4o8]

Originally Posted by RaceBikeRentals

siccccccc!

[Nemy]

Originally Posted by Cali619

Can we get back to the subject of the thread and have the arguments on loud vs. quiet exhaust pro's and con's in PM's or a different thread? That subject is debatable all day and night.

lol no one's going to post up their exhaust if people are just gonna condemn them for how much louder it is...

Originally Posted by capt_bugaloo

Apparently you've never lived in an area where inconsiderate neighbors with loud exhausts have repeatedly woken you up early in the morning. I have, and it's rather annoying to deal with.

btw that was my post about blocking positions. I'm always in my blocking position and I do consider myself an alert and safe rider, but it still doesn't negate the fact that a louder pipe CAN make a difference. That's all we're trying to say and noone denies that fact but people still want to demonize it... prevention is always better than reaction, just as safe riding is only a form of prevention.

And I've posted like 3 times here that I/we are not advocating for wall shattering boomers or even one that is loud enough to wake up neighbours. Some people choose those pipes and that's unfortunate. But you can't generalize that to every rider that chooses a third-party exhaust. Again, it doesn't need to be that loud to constitute the statement "loud pipes saves lives". But if people want to take it literally, from now on I'll refer to it as "loudER pipes saves lives"?

and the horn on the new gens is actually fairly decent. The horn on the pre-gens, though, couldn't be heard over any cager's music/conversation...

[Nemy]

Originally Posted by BlueRaven

i'm currently in the market for one to increase the power but don't want it to be louder than the stock. is there such a thing?

You could see if kerry knows how loud the quiet core AreaP is with the new silencer installed. That might work out to be the quietest option out there.