October 30th, 2010, 07:56 PM | #81 | |
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That was the basis of my other complaints. It's just less sporty. Yes, I did order a swingarm cover, but can you tell me why the CBR 250 doesn't need one if it has less HP than the Ninjette? STYLE! Like I said, it IS adequate, but there's no reason why the Ninjette can't have something similar off the line. As for the bars, those are the same reasoning that go into the Ninjette's bars. Of course they are well reasoned for certain applications, but not as a sport bike. All I'm saying is that there's a reason they'd never put the single-tube style of the 650R or the elevated platform blocks of the Ninjette on a ZX-series bike. Look at the Aprillia RS125. Being small doesn't mean that it can't have a little style. |
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October 30th, 2010, 09:10 PM | #82 |
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I like the sportier look of the Ninja 250R compared to this. Now if only Honda revived the 250RR, then that would be suhweeeeet!
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November 3rd, 2010, 09:36 AM | #83 |
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2011 CBR250R Coming Spring 2011
Right off Honda's website. http://powersports.honda.com/2011/cbr250r.aspx
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November 3rd, 2010, 09:39 AM | #84 |
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What they need to do is stop teasing us and release the MSRP already! LOL!
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November 3rd, 2010, 10:32 AM | #85 |
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November 3rd, 2010, 10:34 AM | #86 |
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I agree...it should be merged. LOL!
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November 3rd, 2010, 10:42 AM | #87 |
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The instrument cluster is really nice looking. Not as bad a looking bike on the second look. Looking forward to seeing a price.
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November 3rd, 2010, 06:55 PM | #88 |
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Being that it's a Honda and fuel injected, I'll bet the price will be higher than the Ninjette. And I noticed on the website it's a single cylinder. I don't see how it can equal the power of the Ninja 250.
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November 3rd, 2010, 07:55 PM | #89 |
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im liking the fuel injection, but the ninja is more attractive IMO gague cluster is nice tho...
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November 4th, 2010, 11:11 PM | #90 |
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November 5th, 2010, 10:32 AM | #91 | |
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Would sure be easier to manage 1 single TB, may even get better MPG that way too. Bob |
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November 5th, 2010, 02:12 PM | #92 |
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I agree... Than we'll get some idea on how much we've saved or overpayed on our carb'd ninja's... however, if the price point is competitive.. well than a trade up may be in order... FI ninja 250R anyone? I for one think our ninjettes still look damn better...
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November 6th, 2010, 09:00 PM | #93 |
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ninja 250 killer
I really like this bike. Electronic instrument cluster, FI, and optional ABS. IMO Honda has a winner in this bike. My 2005 ninja needs a stable mate and this bike fits the bill. My starting bid $4,699.00.
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November 6th, 2010, 09:26 PM | #94 |
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talked to my local dealer at pro caliber here in bend. he says it'll 100$ under msrp of the ninja. he says this info comes from honda.
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November 6th, 2010, 11:36 PM | #95 |
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That means they really are trying to compete with the ninjette. That bike, if properly advertised, will draw in riders I'm sure.
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November 7th, 2010, 01:38 AM | #96 |
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If that is true (hard to believe), there will have to be a Ninjette refresh coming sooner than in another 20 years. The Ninjette is a great bike, but a little competition will keep it that way.
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November 7th, 2010, 09:15 AM | #97 |
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If Honda can crack the Ninja 250 market in the U.S. I wonder if Yamaha will jump in with their own 250 to grab a bit of the market?
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November 14th, 2010, 10:13 AM | #98 |
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From the Dallas Motorcycle Show... ABS on the CBR250R too. And FI FI FI. It would be interesting to learn if the CBR is geared silly low like the Ninette, from what I can glean from the specs it is even lower geared than the ninja??.
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November 14th, 2010, 10:51 AM | #99 |
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November 14th, 2010, 11:06 AM | #100 |
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November 14th, 2010, 12:59 PM | #101 |
So, where's the reverse?
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Interesting to note part of the weight difference between the Honda and Kawasaki is due to the fact that the Honda has a 13L tank vs. the 18L in the Ninja. Assuming that the listed specs are for wet weight, the Ninja weighs 170 kg and the 250 Honda 161 kg for non-ABS. I believe a litre of gasoline weighs between 0.71 - 0.77 kg depending on ambient temperature. Honda's entry should be welcome competition for the 250 cc market in North America. My hope would be that it if Honda is successful, it will encourage Suzuki and Yamaha to develop 250 sport bike models of their own and make the 250 class competitive like the 600 and litre class.
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November 14th, 2010, 01:15 PM | #102 |
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November 15th, 2010, 07:01 AM | #103 |
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Anyone know when they'll be on the showroom floors? First bike show close to me is in March...
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November 16th, 2010, 11:12 AM | #104 |
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I am digging the Orange and black color scheme on this one :
Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR7iz9Ea8fA |
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November 16th, 2010, 01:05 PM | #105 | |
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It looks like Honda is going to offer quite a few accessories for this bike going off the catalog for the 150!
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November 16th, 2010, 02:26 PM | #106 |
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First off, it's pretty ugly. That VFR-like, pieced-together looking front end, the gawdawful muffler (how big of one do you need for a 250cc single? I don't need a chromed-out, ZX-6 style monstrosity on my bike.), and the likely vibration/roughness at highway speeds - they conspire to make me say, "no thank you".
The real value in this bike for me is that it raises the bar for Kawi by providing competition, along with features currently absent from entry-level bikes. If Yamaha and/or Suzuki follow suit, it will be good times for sure. |
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November 22nd, 2010, 12:04 PM | #107 | |
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IDK...I guess I'm the only one digging it. Can't wait to come up with a race paint scheme.
Here are some more CBR250R pics I found online. If you looks closely, some of the parts on the CBR250R look exactly the same on our bikes. Interesting... Also found this: Quote:
I believe Rs. 1.8 lakh is somewhere in the high $2K to very low $3K USD ballpark figure. I'm not 100% certain. The figure may be their base model (not including ABS brakes and what not). |
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November 22nd, 2010, 12:14 PM | #108 | |
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According to today's exchange rate 1.8 lakh Indian rupees is equal to US $3,960 Either way the cbr250r priced at 1.8 lakh rupees (on road price) in India still costs almost half of the ninja 250 in India which is priced at 3.1 lakh rupees. I believe honda has a winner with the cbr250r for the South-East Asian market |
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November 22nd, 2010, 12:28 PM | #109 | |
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I forget but when does Honda release prices for new models? Wasn't it February of every year for new models? BTW, how did you come to that figure? |
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November 22nd, 2010, 01:08 PM | #110 | ||
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google currency converter : http://www.google.com/finance/conver...rom=INR&to=USD Realistically speaking I think Honda will price this motorcycle around $4.5- 5K for the US market |
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December 1st, 2010, 10:43 AM | #111 |
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Pricing mystery solved:
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...at-3999-10999/ Sounds like it's real competition to the Ninja 250. You pay the same price for a bit more tech, a little less power.
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December 1st, 2010, 10:48 AM | #112 |
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Is that the going price for the Ninja's nowadays? I thought it was higher like $4300-$4500.
I KNEW Honda was going to price this competitively. |
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December 1st, 2010, 10:49 AM | #113 | |
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http://powersports.honda.com/2011/cbr250r.aspx
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December 1st, 2010, 10:52 AM | #114 |
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Now to save $4K in two/three months.
Hmm...may have to cut back on Xmas gifts. LOL! |
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December 1st, 2010, 10:54 AM | #115 |
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I knew it was gonna be right around $4000...gonna sell for about $3300 in Thailand.
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December 1st, 2010, 12:41 PM | #116 | |
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We went to a $5 limit last year.
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December 1st, 2010, 01:52 PM | #117 | |
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$3999 - $4299 for the ninjette from the Kawasaki site. $3999 - $4499 for the CBR250 w/o and w/ ABS from the Honda site. It's just the OTD prices that you have to watch for and those vary from dealership to dealership. I remember some dealers trying to charge nearly $7000 or so for a new ninjette, talk about highway robbery. I would expect some dealers to try and price gouge with the CBR250 as well. |
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December 1st, 2010, 02:10 PM | #118 |
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Much more competitive pricing than i imagined.
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December 4th, 2010, 10:56 PM | #119 |
So, where's the reverse?
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Canadian prices have been released for the Honda CBR250R:
$4,499 no ABS $4,999 ABS Very competitive when you compare the MSRP for the 2011 Ninja 250r here in Canada is listed at $4,999. Even though dealerships may price gouge, the one thing to keep in mind that it is a Honda and with a larger network of dealerships, you can get different quotes and negotiate them against each other. Edit: Found this video of a review from an Indian TV show where they got to test ride the Honda at the track in Thailand. Generally positive and the tester really liked the low and mid-range pull of the single cylinder engine. He did mention however, that the Ninja feels more connected and sharp through the corners than the Honda although the Honda should be more than adequate for normal street use. Last futzed with by Boom King; December 5th, 2010 at 02:31 AM. |
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December 16th, 2010, 10:15 AM | #120 |
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New engine will be easier to adjust valve shims:
The choice of a shim design for valve tappet adjustment reduced the rocker arm weight, while internal engine friction was further reduced by setting the valve spring load to a low level. For ease of maintenance and reduced operating costs, the CBR250R valve shims can be replaced for valve adjustment maintenance without removing the camshafts. http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/...-engine-design |
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