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View Poll Results: How do you prefer to cut the engine? | |||
toggle the cut-off switch | 95 | 45.24% | |
turn the ignition key to off | 84 | 40.00% | |
put the kickstand down | 15 | 7.14% | |
no preference (use all 3 interchangeably) | 16 | 7.62% | |
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September 14th, 2011, 11:35 AM | #81 | |
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September 14th, 2011, 11:48 AM | #82 |
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I usually park it, put it in neutral, hit the kill switch then put the kickstand down and get off the bike. Then I take off my helmet and gloves and put the key in my pocket. Sometimes I'll take the key out before or after I take off my gloves and helmet, it really depends what kind of mood I'm in though.
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September 14th, 2011, 12:41 PM | #83 |
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I use the key because I find it easier and saves a step. I also remember reading in the manual it recommends the key for stopping the engine "ordinarily". But I guess thats because they think you are going to leave the electrics on for awhile after the engine stops.
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September 14th, 2011, 12:53 PM | #84 |
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In reality, it doesnt really matter.. They are all switches, they all turn the engine off the same way electronically.
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September 14th, 2011, 03:58 PM | #85 |
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I use the key because, after all, I need to turn it off anyway and remove the key. Using the kill switch is overkill, so to speak.
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September 14th, 2011, 04:56 PM | #86 |
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I use my key most of the time, but occasionally the kickstand. I don't see why all the hate about the latter.
The switch gets actuated every time the kickstand goes down, so it's not as if you are going to wear it out by using it more, since you have to use it every time you park the bike. And in the extremely unlikely event that it did fail, it will be obvious - you will put your kickstand down, and the bike will not turn off. Big deal, then turn the key or hit the kill switch. Unless you're doing something stupid like getting off the bike THEN shutting it off with the kickstand, I don't see how it is unsafe or unwise to rely on it. That all being said, the kill switch method is probably best so you learn to instinctively go for it in a panic situation. |
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September 15th, 2011, 02:17 AM | #87 | |
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Not having a kickstand switch could possibly be bad. I know of 2 people personally who have wrecked from a down stand. One never put it up, one came down while riding. Anyone ever have one fail on the ninjette? Do they typically fail so that the bike won't run or do they tend to fail so that it won't shut off with the stand down? |
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September 15th, 2011, 08:47 AM | #88 |
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How many here have read their owner's manual?
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September 15th, 2011, 09:24 AM | #89 |
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I take my key out. So why wouldn't you just turn it off with the key? lol
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September 15th, 2011, 09:42 AM | #90 | |
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Plus if your leave your bike having killed it with the kick-stand... you would have to get it back to neutral to let it warm for the next ride. Just seems to make better sense to me to kill it with the key after putting it in neutral.
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September 15th, 2011, 10:22 AM | #91 |
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Always enjoy these Shakespearean threads - "Much Ado About Nothing"
I must confess to be absolutely ambivalent, or in this case "tri-valent" about the methodology employed to turn off my motorcycles. From time to time I use the kill switch (encouraged by the MSF) as a muscle memory reminder in the event it's needed in an emergency. I'll use the kickstand when I intend to leave the bike in gear when parked or when parking on ground with uncertain firmness or stability. And finally, I will typically use the key when parking in the garage or driveway and always take the key whenever a motorcycle is left unattended. Strangely enough, each methodology seems to be equally effective regardless of the motorcycle. Who'd a thought? |
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September 15th, 2011, 10:57 AM | #92 |
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should have added "stalling out" as an option. lol. just to see the votes.
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September 15th, 2011, 03:23 PM | #93 |
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AH the owners manual, yes it says to use the key.
This is the same owners manual for my 2010 ninja that on page 37 recommends i practice switching the petcock to the reserve position, it also recommends that I shift from 5th to 6th gear at 25mph (about 3k rpm?), it recommends the first two oil changes at 600 and 7500 miles and every 7500 after, and forbids any tampering with the exhaust, airbox and carbs. I don't have a lot of faith in my owners manual. |
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September 15th, 2011, 03:46 PM | #94 | |
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September 15th, 2011, 03:46 PM | #95 |
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Usually I turn the key, but once in a while I'll use the other methods just to make sure the switches work. Just like checking your bulbs from time to time... if you don't check, you'll never know.
I once took a trip and noticed that my tail light had gone only because I happened to hop off near sunset to take a photo and left the bike running. I'd probably been riding two days, at night, with no tail light. |
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September 15th, 2011, 04:03 PM | #96 | |
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September 15th, 2011, 04:55 PM | #97 | |
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It doesn't have anything to do with speed or adding power, the examples were to show the owners manual has some bad advice in it. You can ride your bike around at 25mph in 6th if you want, but not me. Lugging the engine is bad. this is a really bad one, seriously go out and try it. You can buy a brand new bike and be on your second oil change at 7500 miles, I wouldn't. The petcock part, where the manual recommends something that has been absent for 3 years after a major model change shows how little attention has been paid to the writing of the manual. When I park at work on a hill, after I pull in the spot, I have the clutch in with the bike in 1st and the brake applied to hold the bike still on the hill, i am not going to release the controls to turn the key just because the dumbass manual recommends it. I love my bike but the manual is crap, just because something is in the manual doesn't mean it is the best or only way. |
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September 15th, 2011, 05:34 PM | #98 |
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i usually just lay the bike on its side in gear... it either stalls from the tire, the carbs, or spins until it runs out of gas or hits something. either way its entertaining for the local kids
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September 15th, 2011, 05:38 PM | #99 |
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I use the killswitch most the time with the clutch in just for extra safety. Never hurts right? And if some Dumba** tries to steal it, there is a good chance they won't figure out why it wont start.
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September 15th, 2011, 05:48 PM | #100 | |
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September 15th, 2011, 06:15 PM | #101 | |
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September 15th, 2011, 07:20 PM | #102 |
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September 16th, 2011, 11:45 AM | #103 |
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Anybody who's worried about wearing a part out needs to think about the most important thing.....how easy it's going to be to fix that part once it wears out.
Both the key and the thumb kill switch are the HARDEST and most expensive of the three methods to fix, the kickstand kill switch is the easiest. Plus anyone still leaving their bike in Neutral while parked hasn't yet had the displeasure of coming out to find your bike on it's side because it rolled off the stand. Add up the cost of replacing the side fairing, shift lever, clutch lever, left turn signal, left bar end, and maybe even the left side of the tail or the left mirror. It's much cheaper just to leave it in gear while it's parked, same as a car with a manual transmission. It's extremely easy to reach forward with your foot and flick it up into Neutral before starting. |
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September 16th, 2011, 02:51 PM | #104 | |
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September 16th, 2011, 04:04 PM | #105 |
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September 16th, 2011, 04:34 PM | #106 | |
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I don't honestly care whether people use the kickstand to stop the engine (though I think it's a bit silly), but it's sort of strange to say "I use the kickstand to stop the bike because I park it in gear."
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September 16th, 2011, 04:39 PM | #107 |
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How about, "I use the kickstand to stop the bike because I don't want Lord Voldemort to get me."
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September 16th, 2011, 04:41 PM | #108 |
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Now that's a valid reason.
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September 16th, 2011, 05:13 PM | #109 |
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Alex, you really do crack me up
I personally use the kill switch pretty much always. I guess it's possible that I've used the key before... but I'm almost certain I've never turned the bike off by putting down the kickstand. I leave my bike in neutral when I park it at home or at work because both are flat ground. At home I leave the key in the ignition... it's locked in the garage and I'm on a military installation. If someone wants it that bad... it's yours. I don't like to leave it in first because I like to warm the bike up while putting my gear on... I don't get on the bike til I'm geared up and it's inconvenient to put it into neutral while standing next to the bike. I know there really is no "right" way to do it... I did find this thread entertaining to read though
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September 21st, 2011, 02:53 PM | #110 | |
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For me, I roll up to where I park the bike, and drop the kickstand in gear. The only time I ever shift into neutral while I'm on the bike is at a stoplight and my hands are hurting, otherwise I'm always in gear with the clutch pulled in. I do that because SUV drivers around here have a bad habit of not seeing bikes at lights and I'd like the option of getting the BLEEP out the way ASAP if they screw up. |
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September 21st, 2011, 10:35 PM | #111 |
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Ride her until she runs out of gas
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October 26th, 2011, 07:06 PM | #112 |
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Do you use your kill switch?
I always turn my bike off with the key. i guess because im lazy
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October 26th, 2011, 07:17 PM | #113 |
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I don't think the "closeness" will change... So you're forever with the key.
I do whichever I feel like.
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October 26th, 2011, 08:01 PM | #114 |
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I always use the killswitch to turn off my bike. How is using the key less work than using the killswitch, though?
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October 26th, 2011, 08:02 PM | #115 |
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Depends. If I want the headlights to stay on for a few extra seconds or if I need to be ready to start the engine real quick, i'll use the kill switch. Otherwise the key.
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October 26th, 2011, 08:36 PM | #116 | |
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not to mention wondering why my bike wont start because i forgot the kill switch is flipped
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October 26th, 2011, 09:39 PM | #117 |
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Yes
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October 26th, 2011, 09:45 PM | #118 |
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I always use the kill switch, force of habit.
Depending on your other habits prior to turning off your bike, using the kill switch could give you a small margin of safety advantage over using the key. For example, if you park your bike in gear (or the neutral indicator is showing a false neutral), using the kill switch allows you to turn off the engine while keeping both hands on the bars in case you accidentally release the clutch (or the cable snaps). |
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October 26th, 2011, 11:10 PM | #119 |
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I use the killswitch every time. They technician recommended me to do so when I bought the bike brand new
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October 27th, 2011, 01:35 AM | #120 |
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I only ever used it that one time I accidentally rode into a ditch.
Like Josh pointed out... it seems a bit redundant if you're just going to turn the key and then pull it out, any second later. |
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