July 25th, 2012, 07:59 PM | #81 |
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July 25th, 2012, 08:48 PM | #82 | |
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A lot of people have said "Someone pulling their own gun would have just made the situation worse!"..........Really? A man is literally mowing down innocent people and you don't like the thought of someone returning fire? It's obvious this guy was a coward. He preyed on the innocent people who had no hope of defending themselves and then immediately gave up once the guys with guns showed up. I'm willing to bet at the first sight of someone in the crowd pulling a gun, he would have high-tailed it out of there. Just my opinion though. We'll never know for sure. For your consideration: Just recently two men tried to rob an internet cafe and were chased off by a 71 year old man with his concealed carry permit. Each bad guy was shot multiple times while they ran off and none of the customers or employees were harmed. This stuff happens EVERY day but rarely gets media coverage because it paints concealed carry in a good light. And mainstream media just can't have that. Here's a video of the incident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZNC2...layer_embedded |
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July 26th, 2012, 05:14 AM | #83 | |
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1. they lack confidence and are too lazy to learn skills to protect themselves. 2. people that lack analytical skills and are poor problem solvers. those same people would suggest calling 911 for help... i guess they don't realize all they are doing is are calling for a person with a gun. |
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July 26th, 2012, 07:57 AM | #84 |
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The actual title of this thread should have been "The political and gun law ramifications of the mass shooting in Colorado" since most of the posts seem to be about that rather than about the actual event and its victims.
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July 26th, 2012, 11:04 AM | #85 | |
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July 26th, 2012, 11:32 AM | #86 |
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Harder to hit a moving target in the head, double tap to the chest first & see how it works out:
If he's going down continue until he's on the ground & go for the head shot there. If he's not dropping the shots to the torso should slow him down or stun him, shoot for the base of the brain (just below nose level) Placing a head shot takes a lot of practice & even if you can do it on a moving target with no shoot obstacles around it doing it in a real situation where your life is in danger & adrenaline is pumping is a whole different ball game. |
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July 26th, 2012, 12:17 PM | #87 | |
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just because you never were trained doesn't mean other people are not responsible. the CCW holders i have dealt with recieve a lot more firearms training than the average policeman, except for maybe a SWAT officer. the police recieve more training in the law and issuing summons. the only advantage an officer would have body armor. if you think most cops are trained in CQB and active shooter tactics, your sadly mistaken. it will take them a long time to breach and secure a building as large as that threater. Active shooter scenarios require an immediate response, any other response is either too late or a failure... I'm surprised people don't get it... |
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July 26th, 2012, 12:36 PM | #88 | |
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July 26th, 2012, 12:47 PM | #89 | |
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July 26th, 2012, 12:54 PM | #90 |
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Didn't see anyhting about accuracy training....
http://www.ehow.com/how_7556783_lice...alifornia.html
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July 26th, 2012, 12:59 PM | #91 | |
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July 26th, 2012, 01:07 PM | #92 |
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The vast majority of states require you to complete a written test as well as a shooting test before you can get your license, including Ohio, where I live. My class was taught by two ex-Army Rangers and Blackwater agents. While I'm sure they could have taught us more advanced shooting techniques, they mostly focused on simply making sure we could all shoot safely and hit what we were aiming at. While that's all well and good, it was basically a glorified safety course, which is why it's so important to continue your training beyond the standard CCW course.
And what lgk said about policemen is true. Many of them simply view their firearm as "another tool they have to use to do their job" and have no interest in becoming more proficient than they have to with it. Many of the Columbus police practice at the range I go to and you'd be appalled at some of their targets when they're through. A lot of them are just good enough to pass qualifications and that's it. That being said, there are policemen that are excellent with their firearms. I've taken many tactical shooting courses from a Columbus SWAT officer out of his home and he outshoots every person there every single time. We actually have a game where if anyone can beat him, he buys pizza for the class. It never happens Anyway, my point is exactly what lgk said. The media paints concealed carry holders to be a bunch of yahoos who would pull their firearm on a whim. This isn't the case at all, as many of them have had far more training than the average policeman. |
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i fail to see your point though, other than the fact that you or your dad could have made a big difference in how the situation went down. Quote:
i see a broad cross section of the military around here. i have shot against olympic grade shooters, SWAT, Designated Marksmen and Grand Masters, etc. people that should impress experts even in my field. Quote:
so what, i didn't stop educating myself, most other people continue to shoot and take classes as well. i venture most people were shooting before they applied for a permit. you just don't want to admit a permit holder could have saved lives. thankfully experts disagree. |
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July 31st, 2012, 06:20 PM | #95 |
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I feel so sorry for the families that lost a loved one in the massacre or had some one seriously hurt. I also feel for the shooters family. It is obvious that he suffered from some sort of mental illness much like Jared Loughner.
We can debate gun control but the fact is he had killing as an agenda and he found several ways to act that out. I don't know if someone carrying a gun in the chaos could have thought rationally and quick enough to stop him. I have my ccw and carry often but have not prepared myself for such an encounter. I have worked security before but still don't know how I would react to that type of situation. I have practiced for more close encounter type situations. Usually within 21 feet and no smoke bombs involved. There were heros there that night and they saved lives at the cost of their own. I don't want more laws but I hope can learn something from this and come out the better. |
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