EFI kit - Page 4

caliente103 · May 10th, 2011, 09:57 AM

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomwalk101

Ahh..a US company..much better. Nice looking kit.

spooph · May 10th, 2011, 01:07 PM

Now that looks spectacular! Gonna need to do some more research on this...

caliente103 · May 10th, 2011, 04:53 PM

I think ill do it this winter but need more info

ratlab · May 10th, 2011, 11:23 PM

i have been dealing with power commanders for years now,the maps on their website are there or thereabouts but never spot on -you always have to get them dynoed for perfect fueling-really there is nothing better then a perfectly jetted carb -its a pain playing around jetting-but its a lot cheaper then 6 hours on a dyno

kkim · May 10th, 2011, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratlab

i have been dealing with power commanders for years now,the maps on their website are there or thereabouts but never spot on -you always have to get them dynoed for perfect fueling-really there is nothing better then a perfectly jetted carb -its a pain playing around jetting-but its a lot cheaper then 6 hours on a dyno

wahhh!!!!... but EFI is the magic elixir the carbed 250R is missing!!! Wahhhh!!!!

CThunder-blue · May 11th, 2011, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

wahhh!!!!... but EFI is the magic elixir the carbed 250R is missing!!! Wahhhh!!!!

It is a stepping stone to adding a turbo though.

Racer x · May 11th, 2011, 08:43 AM

The map sensor is 1 bar. That is probubly mesuring vacuum. 1 bar is 14.7 .you. need to have a map sensor that reads positive pressure for a turbo and like 2 bar

CThunder-blue · May 11th, 2011, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

The map sensor is 1 bar. That is probubly mesuring vacuum. 1 bar is 14.7 .you. need to have a map sensor that reads positive pressure for a turbo and like 2 bar

If you read thru to the end of the description, it says:

Quote:

13. Easy to upgrade to a turbo version (2.5 bar MAP sensor, and 2x 128g injectors)

Racer x · May 11th, 2011, 12:20 PM

Thanks I did not read that. I am only able to get on line through my phone right now. I can't wait to talk to them. I am sereous about this.There is a lot of interest but very little need to turbo charge a 250 ninja. .

Quote:

Originally Posted by CThunder-blue

If you read thru to the end of the description, it says:

caliente103 · May 11th, 2011, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

Thanks I did not read that. I am only able to get on line through my phone right now. I can't wait to talk to them. I am sereous about this.There is a lot of interest but very little need to turbo charge a 250 ninja. .

+1

randomwalk101 · May 11th, 2011, 01:20 PM

Let's chop it in half...one cylinder carb and one cylinder EFI.... Best of both worlds... Woot!!

CThunder-blue · May 11th, 2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

Thanks I did not read that. I am only able to get on line through my phone right now. I can't wait to talk to them. I am sereous about this.There is a lot of interest but very little need to turbo charge a 250 ninja. .

LOL, true, but you don't really need to install FI onto the carb ninja either

. Just depends on the individual.

Racer x · May 11th, 2011, 01:33 PM

The factory has got to bring an FI 250 to the states soon.

mrscbw · May 13th, 2011, 12:26 PM

How would you mount the fuel injectors and temperature sensors? Also the would the throttle cable be PnP as well?

This would be a fun little project..after EFI comes the turbo

td02 turbo looks great for this bike..

Racer x · May 13th, 2011, 03:06 PM

I have aluminum manifold tubes to screw injectors into. I have nitrous injectors in the stock rubber manifolds right now.
For my turbo system I am going to mount a single throttle body on the inlet side of the turbo.like if you where running a carb wet turbo system . As for throttle cable .If some one sells a 1/4 turn set up that will work for you buy it. Making custom cables that work and can be adjusted and don't look like all ass is a pain.

mrscbw · May 13th, 2011, 03:18 PM

I believe thats the "suck-through" system? Also, the engine temperature sensor scares me...how is that going to be mounted? Going to require tapping into the head?

Racer x · May 14th, 2011, 02:25 AM

I have a temp light sensor (stock) that is mounted in the thermostat housing.after that I have a water temp sensor mounted in the hose with an adapter block from Koso. It mesures the water temp coming out of the head.
If you wanted to directly mount a temp sensor in the head or block it is an easy job.just drill and tap

ScorpionNinja · May 15th, 2011, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake

+1 for EFI. Honda did it on their U.S. 250 so why can't Kawasaki?

False!

I was at a local powersports dealer and Sat on a Honda CBR250RR here in Michigan! Rage42 was there with me.

the HondaCBR250RR is Carb'ed just like our bikes. Its also a SINGLE piston engine! lol

Alex · May 15th, 2011, 01:47 PM

Look closer.

honda specs.JPG

It is a single, but it does have Honda's PGM-FI.

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May 10th, 2011, 11:23 PM	#124
ratlab ratlab Name: reese Location: tracy, ca Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): gsxr1000,R3x2,RC390,FZ07,XR100 Posts: 132	i have been dealing with power commanders for years now,the maps on their website are there or thereabouts but never spot on -you always have to get them dynoed for perfect fueling-really there is nothing better then a perfectly jetted carb -its a pain playing around jetting-but its a lot cheaper then 6 hours on a dyno

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Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	The map sensor is 1 bar. That is probubly mesuring vacuum. 1 bar is 14.7 .you. need to have a map sensor that reads positive pressure for a turbo and like 2 bar

May 11th, 2011, 01:20 PM	#131
randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	Let's chop it in half...one cylinder carb and one cylinder EFI.... Best of both worlds... Woot!!

May 11th, 2011, 01:33 PM	#133
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	The factory has got to bring an FI 250 to the states soon.

May 13th, 2011, 12:26 PM	#134
mrscbw ninjette.org member Name: Barry Location: Bay Area Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R Posts: 49	How would you mount the fuel injectors and temperature sensors? Also the would the throttle cable be PnP as well? This would be a fun little project..after EFI comes the turbo td02 turbo looks great for this bike..

May 13th, 2011, 03:06 PM	#135
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	I have aluminum manifold tubes to screw injectors into. I have nitrous injectors in the stock rubber manifolds right now. For my turbo system I am going to mount a single throttle body on the inlet side of the turbo.like if you where running a carb wet turbo system . As for throttle cable .If some one sells a 1/4 turn set up that will work for you buy it. Making custom cables that work and can be adjusted and don't look like all ass is a pain.

May 13th, 2011, 03:18 PM	#136
mrscbw ninjette.org member Name: Barry Location: Bay Area Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R Posts: 49	I believe thats the "suck-through" system? Also, the engine temperature sensor scares me...how is that going to be mounted? Going to require tapping into the head?

May 14th, 2011, 02:25 AM	#137
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	I have a temp light sensor (stock) that is mounted in the thermostat housing.after that I have a water temp sensor mounted in the hose with an adapter block from Koso. It mesures the water temp coming out of the head. If you wanted to directly mount a temp sensor in the head or block it is an easy job.just drill and tap