December 12th, 2009, 09:01 PM | #121 |
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December 12th, 2009, 10:22 PM | #122 |
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Kawi OEM Filter with Motul 5100 15W-50. Figure the manual says that 10W-XX is good until -10C and 20W-XX is good until 0C so I figured I don't run under freezing so the extra bit of 15W-50 will give me enough come spring but the 50 will assure optimal performance in the summer heat. Lol, it get to be 35C(95F) max here in summer time so I have 15 degrees of breathing room instead of 5.
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December 12th, 2009, 10:55 PM | #123 |
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Currently running Shell Rotella 5w 40. I'm switching back to the Mobil 1, though. Seems like my bike ran a lot better on it. Shifting was a lot smoother too.
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December 12th, 2009, 11:16 PM | #124 |
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I just changed to Rotella 15w-40, but haven't had a chance to ride on it yet - though I'm intending to move to 5w40 synthetic once it warms up again. Wix filters.
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December 13th, 2009, 11:50 AM | #125 |
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Castrol Syntec - oddly enough, it's the one that says it's designed for European high performance vehicles. It just happened to be on sale
K&N oil filter. Worked well so far, I'll probably do the same next time.
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December 13th, 2009, 01:26 PM | #126 |
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mobile 1 synth and fram filter.
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December 14th, 2009, 05:57 PM | #127 |
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synthetic shell rotella and wix filter.
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December 14th, 2009, 10:43 PM | #128 |
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Expensive amsoil and a K&N Filter
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December 19th, 2009, 03:19 PM | #129 |
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Be careful with Fram.
I use Rotella synthetic and Purolator oil filters (ML16812 for pre-gen 250s) are great, and the prices are even better. Purolator makes a solid filter. But it doesn't really matter, most important thing is changing your oil regularly. |
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December 29th, 2009, 07:27 PM | #130 |
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NAPA (WIX) and Rotella T Synthetic 5W40
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January 11th, 2010, 11:28 AM | #131 |
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That sounds scarily risky. Is it okay to do it with just a kick stand? Just make sure it doesnt get stuck in any crevices? PM the answer to my question to me please!
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January 11th, 2010, 11:36 AM | #132 |
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you can do an oil/filter change with the bike on it's kickstand. a rear stand makes it a little bit easier, but certainly not necessary.
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February 20th, 2010, 02:08 PM | #133 |
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When I first got my 250R I changed the oil at 50 miles.
I used Valvoline 10w-40 motorcycle oil and a WIX #24941 filter. http://valvoline.com/products/consum...cle-atv-oil/13 Using the same brand oil and filter, I changed the oil again at 100 miles, 300 miles, 600 miles, and 1000 miles. At 1500 miles I changed to Shell Rotella T Synthetic 5w-40 and I still used the WIX filter. http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...t6_detail.html I have spent countless hours studying up on mototcycle oil. I was so skeptical about using diesel truck oil at first. After I spent some time looking in to it, the choice was very clear. Shell Rotella T all the way !! They actually have their own Shell Rotella T motorcycle forum. Check it out. http://www.shellusserver.com/ubbthre...Board=9&page=1 |
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February 20th, 2010, 02:17 PM | #134 |
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Oil is critical on these motors. I burned up a motor on the track when I was using dinosaur oil and didn't know about the oil system problems in these motors. Since then I have used Shell Rotella T synthetic oil and religiously keep it right at the full mark. I dribble in a few ounces whenever needed. I have done many dozen track days and races since the switch and haven't lost a single motor.
I am sold on Shell Rotella t synthetic. I use whatever filter: Fram, K&N, Emgo. They all look like they come from the same factory.
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February 21st, 2010, 11:37 AM | #135 |
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Rotella Synthetic and Fram. I'm at ~1200 miles and I've never noticed the oil level drop. Knock on wood
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March 2nd, 2010, 12:49 PM | #136 |
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What kind of Oil does everyone use?
I need to do an oil change in a few days and I was wondering what everyone runs.
Also what kind of oil filter do you use and do you change it every time? P.S. I tried doing a search for similar threads but 'oil' is too short. |
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March 2nd, 2010, 01:06 PM | #137 |
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Valvoline 10w40 4-stroke motorcycle oil. Kawasaki filter I got from my dealer. (14 dollar filter!!!)
I've heard of people running from 5w30 to 20w50 in their 88-07 ninjettes. I'm not really sure what the factory recommendations are for the newer gens. |
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March 2nd, 2010, 01:13 PM | #138 |
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and a crush washer, then you're good! |
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March 2nd, 2010, 01:17 PM | #139 |
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Rotella 5w-40 fullsynthetic. Fram filter - though some on here poo poo them.
I change the filter everytime. |
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March 2nd, 2010, 01:27 PM | #140 |
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Do you really notice a difference switching to synthetic?
And thats diesel engine oil? |
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March 2nd, 2010, 01:33 PM | #141 |
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Mobile One Full Synthetic Motorcyle Oil
Yes, big difference with synthetic. Bike now runs like a 1000.
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March 2nd, 2010, 01:42 PM | #142 |
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Valvoline 20W50 4 stroke motorcycle oil and Wix #24941 filter. I change mine every 1000-1500 miles. The O'reilly Auto Parts by me always has the filter in stock.
Here's another thread sort of related to this subject... http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22318
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March 2nd, 2010, 01:44 PM | #143 |
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/moved to new-gen tech
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March 2nd, 2010, 01:46 PM | #144 | |
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I'm not sure if I noticed the difference or not. Primarily, I use synthetic oil in my car and bike so I don't have to change it as often. |
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March 2nd, 2010, 01:55 PM | #145 | |
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Why does some oil say for motorcycles? If oil is oil should it work for everything?
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March 2nd, 2010, 02:36 PM | #146 |
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I use whatever brand the kawi dealer sells, and Kawi oil filters. Pretty reasonable suprisingly.
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March 2nd, 2010, 02:45 PM | #147 |
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Lots of info here, check it out
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13033 To quote myself, this is what I posted in that thread. When I first got my 250R I changed the oil at 50 miles. I used Valvoline 10w-40 motorcycle oil and a WIX #24941 filter. http://valvoline.com/products/consum...cle-atv-oil/13 Using the same brand oil and filter, I changed the oil again at 100 miles, 300 miles, 600 miles, and 1000 miles. At 1500 miles I changed to Shell Rotella T Synthetic 5w-40 and I still used the WIX filter. http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...t6_detail.html I have spent countless hours studying up on mototcycle oil. I was so skeptical about using diesel truck oil at first. After I spent some time looking in to it, the choice was very clear. Shell Rotella T all the way !! They actually have their own Shell Rotella T motorcycle forum. Check it out. http://www.shellusserver.com/ubbthre...Board=9&page=1 |
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March 2nd, 2010, 02:49 PM | #148 |
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i use putoline 10w/40 semi synth £3.45Litre and gen kwak oil filter £4.20
i will change oil and filter every 1500miles .. |
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March 2nd, 2010, 03:00 PM | #149 |
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Start here:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buel...tml?1267398133 continue here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buel...tml?1267414404 The problem with just any oil is the friction modifiers in the newest version of car oils may decrease clutch life. |
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March 2nd, 2010, 04:00 PM | #150 |
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I use Mobile 1 full synthetic 10w-40 Motorcycle oil.
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March 2nd, 2010, 06:29 PM | #151 |
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March 2nd, 2010, 07:19 PM | #152 |
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shell rotella and wix filter.
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March 2nd, 2010, 07:21 PM | #153 |
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That's the short version, in the first link I gave is a link to the full article, took a while to read but I consider it time well spent.
OK different authors but same good info: http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html |
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March 2nd, 2010, 07:35 PM | #154 |
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Valvoline 10W-40 Full Synthetic Engine Armour & Kawasaki oil filter, but will be switching to the K&N oil filter in my next oil change. Going to start changing oil and filter every 5000kms.
A question about the filter, when you guys change it do you guys change both O-rings or the big one only?
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March 2nd, 2010, 07:37 PM | #155 |
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I highly recommend using a high quality synthetic oil. I use Shell Rotella T synthetic.
250 Ninja motors have a design flaw that can cause a loss of oil pressure when run hard. I don't know if this has been corrected in the new motors or not but I doubt it. I have seen many 250s with spun bearings. I've even lost a motor myself before I got anal about oil. I was running dinosaur oil and letting the oil level get down to the lower level mark. Since burning up my (my girlfriends) motor I switched to Shell Rotella T and have maintained the oil level at the full mark at all times. Since then I have ridden many dozens of days at the track with no engine failures.
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Not true. Automotive engine oils contain friction modifiers and some contain moly. This will effect the clutch performance in wet clutch applications. You are much better off using motorcycle specific oil. Even though it costs more than automotive oil, you only need to buy 2 quarts. The way I look at it, it's cheaper to spend a few more bucks on the correct oil than replacing the clutch prematurely.
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March 3rd, 2010, 07:30 AM | #158 |
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Motul 5100 Semi-synthetic 10w-40, with emgo filter, no complains so far...
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March 3rd, 2010, 08:25 AM | #159 |
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March 3rd, 2010, 09:38 AM | #160 |
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Royal Purple 10w-40, synthetic since break-in and WIX filters. No complaints thusfar.
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