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Just made the video public. I also made comments by approve only. Something about anonymous people making remarks that I cannot refute bothers me. So instead I put a link in the description to this site where they can argue about how much of a ****** dumbass moronic rider I am
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June 11th, 2012, 03:27 AM | #122 | |
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I go slower on the side streets because in chicago you're never more than 2 blocks from a main street where you can go decently fast. On main streets people pay more attention; people act retarded on these side streets as this video clearly shows. Also... I'v always heard that the quickest way to slow down is to use both breaks progressively, any experienced rider want to confirm/deny this? |
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if you STILL think that traveling down a residential street at 30 mph is acceptable, you're pretty thick skulled. I travel at 30ish when there's no cars on the side of the road and I can see far ahead. when there's cars, particularly around bends where you're put into a blinded situation, like what happened in this case, yes, you should be traveling slower. your desire to rip down residential streets, thinking that everything is just peachy, is careless and has gotten you into trouble once, learn from it. Quote:
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sounds to me like everyone is getting some sort of sexual thrills hating on jiggles. The first time i watched the video i heard the tire lock up. Anybody who thinks they have a better reaction time is just ridiculous! Basically it would be like saying you can react to everything in hundredths of a second.
Haters gonna hate? where are you mounting your camera's? What mounts with the GoPro specifically? Seems to be rocking an epic injury beard in your new riding video
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@Jiggles: I'm pretty sure @dfox was trolling you in his post. Your reaction time clearly was good, your speed isn't a clear cut case of being too fast (and he's making out it is) and he threw in a cheap insult about you choosing your speed to show people how manly you are. If he's not a troll he's either in a bad mood or not to bright.
I do think he's right to bring up the idea that you should think about your speed (we all should) and that there could be stuff to learn from this accident (personally I like the ninja-style jump over the roof suggestion someone made ), but he could have made those points without sounding like a prick. We love ya Jiggles and we know that you're the victim of the incident and the <insert preferred derogatory term> who hit you is at fault. |
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Good argument, let me counter that with nah uh! drac, I believe you are stuck in the thought process of riding a cruiser. On any bike but a sport bike the correct way to stop is as you have described it (only without the locking up the rear) However on a sportbike in an emergency braking situation, literally all of your braking power comes from the front. If any is coming from the back then you aren't braking to the full potential of the bike. I'm also still waiting on that video of you stopping in 0.9 seconds, till then I'm done with you
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Haha yea, it was a motorcycle beard, since I've now ridden again I need to decide what to do with it
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June 11th, 2012, 10:33 AM | #130 | |
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As long as the beard doesnt rub in the helmet keep it... i dont think i could handle that
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Don't put it on the handlebar, way too much vibration
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Your left femur may have resisted that impact, but your head, upper body and right leg would have received some extra damage. 0.7 seconds is the normal reaction time = From recognition to decision of taking action 0.3 seconds is the normal time from end of reaction time to reaching maximum brake power and deceleration (here is where the two fingers over the handle save some tenths of second) That leaves 0.53 seconds of potential pure braking before reaching point of collision in this unfortunate case. Vfinal = Vinitial + (Deceleration rate x Breaking time) Normal deceleration rate is 0.8 g (-25.8 feet/sec each second), while max (sustained stoppie) is 1.0 g (-32.2 feet/sec each second) 28 mph are 41.07 feet/second Vfinal = 41.07 + (-32.2 * 0.53) = 23.9 feet/second = 16.3 mph The impact damage of that speed is equivalent to free falling sideways (bike and rider) from a height of 9 feet. Pure braking couldn't avoid the collision.
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If you think you can only slow to 16mph from 28mph in a second you are high.
Average reaction time for humans is 246 milliseconds NOT 700 milliseconds That leaves over a second to decelerate.
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Oh now my head is spinning with math equations...
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http://www.msgroup.org/Tip.aspx?Num=263&Set= http://www.msgroup.org/articles.aspx?Cat=2 Sean, you missed the last sentences that I added.
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Ummmm.....where does it mention reaction time? All my research has shown reaction times average at about 246 milliseconds.
I never disputed any of the other numbers or the math. Actually average time is lower....215 milliseconds according to http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/...time/stats.php
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Average reaction time on a motorcycle is 0.62 seconds
http://www.promocycle.com/documentat...valfrein_e.pdf http://www.bikesafer.com/detail/braketime.html
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And now you know why I said you should always have the front brake covered when in a residential area.
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So it looks like it takes about .6-.7 sec. to recognize the threat, .03 sec. to react, another half sec. or so for the suspension to compress and then full braking potential can occur.
Is this correct?
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0.463 seconds is covered mode 0.615 seconds is non covered mode
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Lol, you guys are silly.
Here's the deal - At fault means NOTHING. I would rather be alive and not at fault than dead and not at fault. A motorcycle vs a car, car will always win. It doesn't matter if the car was at fault, it still wins. 25 MPH speed limit does not mean that going 25 MPH is driving safely. Let's say that there was a line of stopped cars ahead. Do you keep traveling at 25 MPH, even though you'll hit them? What about ice? Fog? Freezing rain? Obstructed view? Look, I don't think anyone is saying that Jiggles was driving incredibly reckless and was asking for it. I don't think anyone is trying to lame blame on Sir Jiggz-a-lot, or saying that the chick had the right of way. I do think (and I agree) that the outcome *might* have been a little bit better had the jigmeister been going a little slower and covering his brake and/or clutch. On the other hand, it might not have! Doesn't matter; I'd rather try to minimize my injuries and fail to minimize them, than to not try and minimize them. It's really simple, and you guys are getting all bent up over it. EDIT: For the record, I would have been doing about 10 - 15 MPH in a situation like that (and I do that everyday when I ride), because that scares the **** out of me. |
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Reading comprehension not your strong point, huh?
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What was that about reading comprehension? lol. It won't let me copy paste it correctly so I screenshotted it. You are subtracting the covered reduction from a number that has already included it.
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.463 was mixed combined BRT......615 isn't even on the chart
According to your chart, your reaction time should have been .386(average). That's the average male BRT when having brake covered. Which you should have. You were in a residential area with cars on both sides. You should have been in "alert" mode in that scenario which means we just need to use the .386 second reaction time. That leaves you 1.23 seconds to brake from 28 mph.
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According to motofools math you would have hit the car at 1.464 feet per second if you had of panic braked properly. I have no idea how fast that would be.....like .0004mph. So you can see it was possible to not impact the car.
While I think that number is a bit unrealistic I firmly believe that if you had of panic braked properly as soon as you saw the car moving you would have impacted at 5mph or less. If you had a fast reaction time say 125 milliseconds(not unheard of) you could possibly not hit the car at all.
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Damn Jiggles, when you're 100 percent you got a long road trip and quite a few mail boxes to hit with a bat ahead of you.
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Lolwut?
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i think hes telling you to go smash drac's mailbox... and maybe that womans
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sounds like a ride to remember
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While you're hear smashing the mailbox come on down the driveway and knock on the door. If you have the time I'll teach you how to brake. Hell for that matter I'll teach you how to ride. You appear to need all the help you can get.
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Well I wouldn't want to learn how to do it wrong so I will pass thank you though
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The problem with speeding on a residential street is that most drivers are not expecting speeding cars, let alone speeding motorcycles. They're in their comfort zone. That u turn that the girl took has probably been taken time and time again, to the point that it's become so familiar that she got complacent and occasionally forgot to check her mirrors. |
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^ most likely, but again I wouldn't call 28mph speeding
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