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October 4th, 2013, 12:12 PM | #163 |
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The doors have kevlar and metal plating
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October 4th, 2013, 12:12 PM | #164 |
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They can install steel plates to protect your lower body.
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October 4th, 2013, 12:15 PM | #165 |
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After all the steel plates and bullet proof glass installed, that Land Rover is going to be a heavy mother, forget about MPG.
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October 4th, 2013, 12:41 PM | #166 | |
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October 4th, 2013, 12:49 PM | #167 |
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Impressive demonstration from the car armoring guys. I'd like to hope that I'll never ever need those modifications made to my car, but 'tis still interesting to see how it's done.
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October 4th, 2013, 12:52 PM | #168 |
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if u guiz need armored cars, go to mexico. theyre pros at armoring ur cars due to all of the cartel BS going on. Believe VICE has a documentary on it on their YT channel.
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October 4th, 2013, 02:32 PM | #169 |
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one you're important enough to need an armored car, MPG is a minor/insignificant detail...
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October 4th, 2013, 04:03 PM | #170 | |
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October 4th, 2013, 04:49 PM | #171 |
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Lessons learned from mario kart man... banana peels and spike balls.
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October 5th, 2013, 09:11 AM | #173 |
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I love how the SUV plows through the parked bikes and people, and these idiot riders race to catch up to him and start surrounding him again. Like he wouldn't do it again. I wish he took that whole group out.
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October 5th, 2013, 12:27 PM | #174 | |
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October 5th, 2013, 01:11 PM | #175 |
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The rider who was run over, Edwin "Jay" Mieses, was portrayed Friday as an "innocent victim" who was trying to calm tempers and disperse the crowd after the fender bender.
"His sole intention was to defuse the situation," said his family's new high-profile lawyer, Gloria Allred. At a Manhattan news conference, Allred said Mieses, 32, had his back to the Range Rover and was trying to get fellow bikers to walk away when he was struck "at top speed." "Watch that huge vehicle, SUV, blast off, and watch it as it is lifted several feet off the ground as it rolls over Edwin Mieses," she said of the video of the incident, which has gotten millions of hits on YouTube. Talk about over exaggeration and embelishment. Obviously this lawyer did not watch the video carefully. In the video, Mieses (purple shirt, green bike) is in the far right hand (passenger side)and clearly one of the first ones off the bike and can be seen walking back and approaching the SUV. About 16 seconds later you see the SUV trying to escape. Pictures after the accident place Mieses on his back, feet pointed and laying in the far left hand lane (driver's side). Mieses's bike never got run over, but two other bikes did. I'm willing to bet Mieses is the one who started slashing tires or hit the passenger side window or mirror. I also wonder where the witnesses and reports are to back up this lawyer's claim. As innocent as he is made out to be, surely someone can back up the claim. Right? |
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October 5th, 2013, 01:17 PM | #176 | |
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October 5th, 2013, 01:18 PM | #177 | |
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October 5th, 2013, 01:50 PM | #178 | |
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"The Lawrence motor*cyclist struck and paralyzed as a desperate SUV driver tried to escape the rage of other bikers in New York on Sunday has a six-page criminal record that began at age 12 with a negligent driving charge and includes jail time for drugs, guns, resisting arrest and other convictions, according to court records. Edwin Mieses, 32, never got a driver’s license in the Bay State, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said, but he was frequently nabbed behind the wheel, and even sentenced to jail for driving without a license, court records show. Mieses has a pending case out of Lawrence District Court for driving suspended, subsequent offense, said Carrie Kimball Monihan, spokeswoman for the Essex County District Attorney’s Office. Mieses also has 15 guilty findings for criminal offenses including distribution of cocaine, possession of a firearm without a permit, knowingly receiving stolen property, resisting arrest and several motor vehicle violations, court records show. Mieses was sentenced to jail in 2004 for distribution of cocaine, in 2001 for operating without a license, in 2000 for possession of a firearm, and in 1999 for possession of marijuana, receiving stolen property, destruction of property and attaching plates, according to court records." http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion...riminal_record "...Mieses is the loving father of two children with Dayana Mejia, who he has been with for 15 years. Mieses and Mejia were together in 2002, according to a Lawrence Police Department report that charges him with possession of cocaine with intent to distribute, failure to stop for police, driving to endanger and resisting arrest. In August 2002 a prostitute was busted and told cops she could get Mieses to deliver crack cocaine to them, police said. When Mieses showed up, cops moved in and he fled, ditching the car and running, but was arrested, police said. Mejia told cops the car was hers and Mieses was her boyfriend, police said. She allowed cops to search their home where police said they found more drugs. The drug charges were later dismissed, but he was sentenced to one year in jail for the driving violations. Allred did not respond to repeated messages regarding Mieses’ criminal record. “Edwin is not a member of any gang,” Allred told reporters. “He loves to ride motor bikes and he came to New York City to participate in a ride, nothing more.” http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion...nnocent_victim |
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October 5th, 2013, 02:15 PM | #179 |
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IMHO all that talk about what kind of person the guy is shouldn't really matter, the only thing that should be of consequence is what the guy did in that particular situation. If the evidence shows that he's guilty it shouldn't matter that he's "father of two", if the evidence shows that he's not guilty it shouldn't matter that he "has a six-page criminal record that began at age 12".
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October 5th, 2013, 02:37 PM | #180 |
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Hello, my long-lost friends!
Popped in `cause I was interested in what you guys had to say about this issue, and offer my two cents, as follows: Maybe this is a "mother lion" thing, but if I am in my car with my child, and you are threatening the safety of said child, whether it's you with your bunch of idiot buddies or you all by yourself, I will kill you if necessary. I will do whatever it takes to remove my offspring from harm's way, including using my SUV as a weapon, and I will flatten as many of you as it takes to get away. Never, ever, EVER f$*% with my kids.
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October 5th, 2013, 03:02 PM | #181 | |
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October 5th, 2013, 03:41 PM | #182 | |
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October 5th, 2013, 03:43 PM | #183 | |
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October 5th, 2013, 03:46 PM | #184 |
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Then that's what he should be judged for, not his past record.
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But it will matter a lot when the shyster lawyer he hired tries to sue the RR driver in civil court. I will not be too disappointed if he does not get jail time that he deserves. He is no longer the danger to society he was last week. He was a danger is clear by the fact that he was there on a motorcycle, considering his record and his company.
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October 5th, 2013, 04:21 PM | #186 |
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Regardless of your intentions you touch the car - you violate it's owners property, you give it's owner and driver the reason for self-defense actions, driving over you in this case. Again, no intent needed, just evidence of actions.
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October 5th, 2013, 05:39 PM | #187 |
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Everyone talks about the the decisions of the driver of the SUV, but no talk about how he wouldn't have any decisions to make if he wasn't put into this situation to begin with. The group of bikes could have just ridden normally, not trying to close the highway and nobody would have had to make any abnormal decisions
What if they were trying to block off one of those old ladies who confuses the gas and brake pedals and she floors it? Now grandma's a monster
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October 5th, 2013, 06:23 PM | #188 |
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http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...o-nyc.cnn.html
Testimony that the bikers were going to hurt the wife too. I'd say the driver's fears were justified. http://nypost.com/2013/10/05/biker-b...d-head-stomps/ More details on the beating of the driver. |
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I've met up a guy last Sunday same day as the incident. He showed me a video of the chase from a different perspective. Way before I saw any other video, or herd anything on the news. Looked like street justice to me. He told me that "the Range Rover hit a kid as he entered the highway" and they were trying to make him stop. I assume that the "break-check" incident was already trying to pull the SUV over. If you look closely at the live-leak video at 0:20 you see that the range rover is already missing the drivers side mirror. More then likely that the range rover was involved in a confrontation previous to the break-check. If people think that running over bikers is justified then the beating got to be justified as well. If the bikers didn't pull him out of the car and beat him, then the driver probably would have been facing charges.
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October 6th, 2013, 07:53 AM | #193 | |
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October 6th, 2013, 09:37 AM | #194 |
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Lol, Intent is one of the most important factors. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/intent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intenti...riminal_law%29 http://thelawdictionary.org/criminal-intent/ I could easily go on... |
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I believe that you have to be smarter than what you are messing with. If you want to be a street justicer, you will need to be a smart one. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/justicer Has anyone wondered why no member of http://www.ninjette.org was involved in that unfortunate situation? Because we are more street-smart than street-justicers. As it has happened many times to many of us and as we know of 20% of those cagers have mental problems, when you become the traffic victim of any cager, you don't: 1) Move your bike into the path of that offender. 2) You don't try to stop that car. 3) You do call the police or try to gather some witnesses or try to film the offense. 4) If the car stops at a traffic light, you don't reach for the door of that car or try damaging the mirrors, tires or any part of others' property. 5) You don't place your bike and your persona in the path of an offender with some reason to flee the scene of the offense. 6) You don't follow, chase and harass a speeding offender if you can get and report the information of the vehicle, violating more laws and principles in the process. 7) You don't physically assault the offender, especially when you over-number and over-power that offender (that is as abusive and coward in USA as in China). 8) You don't leave the scene of your abuse and cowardice. 9) If you choose doing all the dont's, you don't record and publish your consistent lack of decency and intelligence, expecting people (while purposely instigated by the media and powerful interests) to understand that you have been a victim of the society and the circumstances: you have created a perfect storm. "Respect for the rights of others means peace." - Benito Juarez For whoever is interested on taking a side in this case, just use the above quote as a different point of view and respond the following question: What side disrespected the rights of the other part first and more times?
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