April 25th, 2013, 10:00 PM | #161 |
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thank god WE RACIN'
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April 25th, 2013, 10:08 PM | #162 |
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In a few of you guys' cases, my mind is still blown that WE RACIN'
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April 26th, 2013, 05:53 AM | #163 |
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hope all you noobs enjoy that useless thing called "practice" today. I'll be in tomorrow to lay down some ****
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April 26th, 2013, 06:57 AM | #164 |
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Awwwww, thank you for the well wishing, Steve. Have fun at work
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April 26th, 2013, 12:05 PM | #166 |
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April 28th, 2013, 08:25 PM | #167 |
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My truck said 103F as I drove away.
****kkkk Hope yer feeling better Nem |
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April 28th, 2013, 09:21 PM | #168 |
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Alright guys, fill me in. Heard rumors that Nitto Jr. got hurt pretty bad. Any details what happened? Heard lots of people crashed...Nitto Jr., J. Hong, Max, Shane, Andrew Zabzydr, etc.
Fill me in with the details. How was the Steve Holt Fuzzbutt Memorial...what all happened?
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April 28th, 2013, 09:48 PM | #169 |
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Not sure how Nitto crashed but he broke his leg and had a bone sticking out of his finger - had surgery this morning and is recovering nicely. Hong crashed twice - his crash today in 15 resulted in a broken rib from a very fast low side. Max crashed in the pits again. Shane I think just lost the front and had a small lowside in 7. Andrew Zavzydr got hit by a flying bike from someone who lost it in 16 and was transported for evaluation because his back hurt I think but he was moving around and responding.
The Fuzzbutt memorial was a moving tribute. Nitto Sr did a few laps around the track with Holt's race # on his bike (I'll post the pic on your facebook) His wife made a short speech with the sound of Nitto blasting around the track in the background and scattered his ashes just as Walt flew through the finish line. It was very cool. Also I didn't crash in the pits. I low-sided in turn 16 but my bike somehow high-sided. (wut?) raped my front end and smashed my gas tank/right side.
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April 29th, 2013, 07:18 AM | #170 |
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I got my first DNF T_T
Definitely some rough times on the track all around this weekend, but always great times off it. The mojitos and kabobs were delicious enough to make it all better- thanks again Bryan and Kit! It's gonna be a long wait til the next miserably hot as balls round in september |
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April 29th, 2013, 07:37 AM | #171 |
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thanks for cooking for the crew this last round kit!
kabobs were spot on...
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April 29th, 2013, 01:32 PM | #172 |
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I'm glad they came out okay. You only get one round off. I'm leaving the cooking to the pro! And those mojitos were BOMB!!!!!!! We have a great bartender!
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April 29th, 2013, 01:32 PM | #173 | |
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April 29th, 2013, 01:41 PM | #174 |
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The Fuzzbutt Memorial was a nice touch
Seem like the 250 crew had a lot crashes Sorry to hear about your ribs Nem, speaking of fractured/broken ribs. You guys know of good protection for the ribs? I didn't like the news of the used tire thefts , I'm think of locking up the genny and tools at night from now on.
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April 29th, 2013, 02:01 PM | #175 |
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Yeah was there any word on if that got resolved? Re: tire theft.
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GNARLY! sope he heals fast AND well!!!
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April 29th, 2013, 03:16 PM | #177 |
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Ouch!!! That sux. I'm mailing the crutch pads and pockets he let me borrow later today if I can or guaranteed to be shipped tomorrow.
What the hell?!? Someone stealing tires now?!? I would hate for this track to be like Vegas where people's **** is getting stolen. I wish I could have been there to spectate and watch Fuzzbutt's memorial. We were thinking about coming out to just spectate but Sofia got sick and is still battling a wicked cough. As for good protection for the ribs, the chest armor I wear from Impact Armor has good rib protection. Knox also has a chest armor that wraps around the ribs. I still have my Knox chest protector. It's barely used. If you want it I can sell it to you for like $30 if you want it. I found a tad too bulky for me and it wouldnt fit well with my Dainese suit I had. It might fit you well.
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April 29th, 2013, 04:42 PM | #178 |
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Yeah, we missed you Matt. I did'nt provide much sport for Dino in the middle gap area, although Kit might have. . .
As for chest protection, I'm the king of over-protection. I run a Dainese Wave 2 back and chest protector, under a Safermoto airbag vest. Its bulky-hot-uncomfortable, but good piece of mind, and I just accept it as part of racing. On my first and only low-side, the airbags didn't deploy, mostly due to the stupid engineering of the tether that didn't activate the vest on get-off. Injuries suck big-time, and I try to avoid them every way I can, but they'll happen to all of us as long as we ride, can't get too freaked on it (although I think I did this weekend). Hope Nem's breathin' easier, and Jr. is doin' OK. |
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April 29th, 2013, 05:38 PM | #179 |
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And the year's final tally:
2013 Ultra Lightweight Shootout OVERALL Pos Number Lic Name Points 1 74 E Hong, Jonathan 237 2 666 E Fogle, Josh 229 3 250 E Dawson, Steven 146 4 747 E Simms, Darren 113 5 211 E Henning, Ari 102 6 242 A Carpenter, Elaine 79 7 92 A Hagenauer, Bryan 78 8 268 E Stanton, Arek 60 9 187 A Burkett, Tiffani 58 10 826 E Chika, Andrew 44 11 731 A Liberty, Kit 42 12 290 A Bailey, Joel 41 13 537 E Perez, Jason 40 14 114 E Liberty, Shane 39 15 312 A Cavarlez, Matt 35 16 55 A Sniegowski, Dean 33 17 531 A Reissig, Max 29 18 672 A Lensch, Brian 26 19 21X E Baker, Tony 26 20 315 A Lazear, John 25 21 737R E Courts, Zack 24 22 95 E Davidson, Tania 22 23 943 A Buchcik, Patryk 21 24 942 E Hanks, Logan 20 25 728 A Sherrod, James 20 26 28 E Sheldon, Holland 16 27 256 A Shank, Alexander 15 28 499 A Hamilton, John 14 29 848 A Tavallodi, Pouya 13 30 150 A Wiriyahyuttamar, Issey W. 13 31 222 A Pen, Shawn 11 32 231 E Carlin, Kevin 11 33 518 A Chirinian, Guy 10 34 980 A Jimenez, Christopher 10 35 990 A Chirinian, Al 9 36 213 E Madama, Jason 8 37 90 A Erickson, Amanda 7 38 379 E Waheed, Adam 3 39 955R E Kim, Michael 2 40 145 A Rhyu, Robert 2 41 137X E Davis, Michael 2 42 784 A Wade, Darin 2 43 100 A Miller, Brandon 1 44 107 A Davidson, David 1 45 53 A Nitto Sr, Walter 1 46 15 E Zabzdyr, Steven 0 47 91 E Tigert, Jeffrey 0 2013 250 SuperSport OVERALL Pos Number Lic Name Points 1 666 E Fogle, Josh 230 2 74 E Hong, Jonathan 191 3 250 E Dawson, Steven 180 4 747 E Simms, Darren 137 5 211 E Henning, Ari 102 6 242 A Carpenter, Elaine 89 7 92 A Hagenauer, Bryan 79 8 55 A Sniegowski, Dean 61 9 95 E Davidson, Tania 53 10 268 E Stanton, Arek 51 11 187 A Burkett, Tiffani 49 12 731 A Liberty, Kit 45 13 537 E Perez, Jason 41 14 499 A Hamilton, John 39 15 312 A Cavarlez, Matt 37 16 826 E Chika, Andrew 37 17 315 A Lazear, John 35 18 114 E Liberty, Shane 33 19 672 A Lensch, Brian 33 20 150 A Wiriyahyuttamar, Issey W. 32 21 21X E Baker, Tony 31 22 222 A Pen, Shawn 25 23 848 A Tavallodi, Pouya 24 24 737R E Courts, Zack 21 25 531 A Reissig, Max 21 26 942 E Hanks, Logan 19 27 943 A Buchcik, Patryk 19 28 213 E Madama, Jason 14 29 28 E Sheldon, Holland 14 30 231 E Carlin, Kevin 12 31 990 A Chirinian, Al 11 32 518 A Chirinian, Guy 11 33 6 E Taylor, Dani 10 34 100 A Miller, Brandon 10 35 53 A Nitto Sr, Walter 7 36 379 E Waheed, Adam 7 37 107 A Davidson, David 5 38 980 A Jimenez, Christopher 4 39 137X E Davis, Michael 3 40 396 E Hayword, David 2 41 955R E Kim, Michael 2 42 784 A Wade, Darin 2 43 15 E Zabzdyr, Steven 1 44 145 A Rhyu, Robert 1 45 617 A Serra, Tony 0 46 256 A Shank, Alexander 0 I finished 9th overall in ULWS! Top ten finish FOR THE MAWFUGGIN WIN So stoked! Hahahahhaha, great year, guys. Great year |
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April 30th, 2013, 06:34 AM | #180 |
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Forever 4th... I've been relegated...
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April 30th, 2013, 09:02 AM | #181 |
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Well another way to look at it Darren is you're Forever 1st........for someone weighing more than 150 pounds. I doubt any of the front three even weigh that much so you're spotting them quite a bit in the HP to Weight ratio.
I'm considering joining the party next season but since I'm not that much lighter then you the HP to Weight deal concerns me. |
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April 30th, 2013, 09:04 AM | #182 |
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I just want to thank all of you for coming out this season to race. You all did well (most of you set your PR this last round) which was awesome to hear. Also it was a pleasure to race and pit with you all.
We always have the most consistent showing, if not the biggest on the grid of all classes, and that says a lot about our class. Next year should be an awesome year for you all (Expert & Amateurs) as CVMA has a lot in store for you guys in respect to contingency/awards. More info to follow soon.
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April 30th, 2013, 10:10 AM | #184 |
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Hmm, a few are sowing seeds of insurrection and hints of departure, no one asked me but Jon, Josh and Darren are the heart and soul of this class, and all have hinted towards going in different directions (ie classes?), whats goin on here peeps? I think everyone needs to step back and relax for a bit, do all the reflection/re-evaluation stuff later, and just enjoy the break.
Remember, this is the funnest, safest, cheapest and friendliest class out there. I think its really cool that we don't have to break the bank or put our lives on the line to have fun, but it can get tedious at times when ya can't just flog the throttle and go fast, this is more a a strategy/chessman's class, where getting better on the little bikes will probably make us better on any bike, but not at the high cost of the bigger guys. Just some thoughts as I myself look at what I did this year (or didn't). . . |
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April 30th, 2013, 10:13 AM | #185 |
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hearing about all these crashes and fun has made me jelly. i wanna have fun and crash too!
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April 30th, 2013, 10:46 AM | #186 |
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I can recommend a nice freeway off ramp to you.
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April 30th, 2013, 10:50 AM | #187 |
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roger that... stepping back now. *enters lurk mode*
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April 30th, 2013, 01:33 PM | #189 |
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Stuman posted up some pics from Friday's race only practice.
There's Tiff, Big D, Bryan, Pouya, and Chris http://www.socalmoto.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20695
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April 30th, 2013, 01:36 PM | #190 |
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DUDEEEEEEEEEEE he got some sweet pics!
He got 3 in a row of me, hagenauer, and then tiff and they're GREAT shots. edit: Me: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuman1...57633369189975 http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuman1...57633369189975 Hagenauer: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuman1...57633369189975 Tiff: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuman1...57633369189975 Darren: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuman1...57633369189975
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May 1st, 2013, 04:50 AM | #192 | |
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May 1st, 2013, 07:51 AM | #193 |
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I think it's a natural progression for the top 250 racers to move onto to bigger bikes (SV650/600cc/1000/etc.). Kinda like how Moto3 racers graduate to the Moto2 class, and so on.
In return, this will give the upper midpack and midpack racers a chance to podium and fight for the championship. I have no doubt the top 250 racers should they move up would be just as competitive on the bigger cc classes. Then again I guess we can phoeva sandbag. LOL!
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For racing, 600: Hell no! Too dangerous. Too many moments 650: Nuclear Arms Race. Also, it seems like their grids are getting smaller. F-Twins had 9 on Sat and 5 on Sun. At the end of the race day, I want to be able to walk home and still have cash in my pocket. Besides, the 250 group has the best community vibe on the paddock.
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May 1st, 2013, 09:31 AM | #195 |
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I can't wait until I can join you guys and actually race. Until then I'll probably just run track days and be a pit monkey.
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For Racing, the Ninja 250 is tons of fun. I just need to develop a lot of things to be able to be a front runner. Ive got my work cut out for me. When I was racing the D675, I was barely getting by financially because of how much it costs to race it...the tires alone on a 600 are a lot and do not last as long as they do the 250. I knew that I couldn't race the 600s forever and had a feeling that I would race for maybe one season and then have to take a break from it and reevaluate. My goal was to get enough points to get to expert and then reevaluate. Suffice to say, people that know my story--that fate kicked and told me that will not happen. It was a no-brainer to race a different class. I came close to racing the SV650s because Sofia said she would sell her 2003 to me for a steal. However I didn't want to somehow develop some rivalry since both of us are competitive. There were times we were going back and forth with lap times on my D675 and her on the SV650 so I could imagine it would have been worst on the same class of bike. Racing a Ninja 250 is more financially manageable and much easier to DIY maintenance. I just don't want it to become another nuclear arms race like the SV650s
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May 1st, 2013, 10:39 AM | #198 |
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Pouya did a 2:12 flat. And Jimenez did a 2:15 I think?
They are by no definition slow any more...
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Only ones who are considered slow are those who crash during qualifying, in the pits, and who do cameo appearances and say they're thinking about retiring.
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