December 14th, 2012, 09:01 PM | #241 |
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I'm a dyed in the wool Honduh Fanboi. I sat on it at the motorcycle show. I know it didn't have any fluids but it didn't really any heavier than the 300. If I don't pick up a CBR600 I'm strongly considering getting this bike next year.
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December 31st, 2012, 06:22 AM | #242 |
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Here u can read about a testride with the new CBR http://www.motorcycle.in.th/forum/vi...showtopic=5485
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February 22nd, 2013, 12:25 PM | #243 |
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CB500F & R First Impressions
http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-...iew/22346.html
There's a link to the 500R also. Essentially all three bikes are the same. The 300 looks to essentially be just as quick. I'd imagine it would be like the pre gens and the ninja 500 debate. Both accomplishing the same thing, easy to ride, not intimidating, inexpensive; with the 500 getting the slight nudge of being better. |
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February 22nd, 2013, 02:01 PM | #244 |
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Seems nice. But the KTM Duke 390 is gonna be better!!
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February 22nd, 2013, 02:35 PM | #245 |
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The review makes it sound kind of vanilla, but with more torque and better brakes than the 300.
I want to see what it will do with a set of aggressive cams, a full exhaust system, and proper fuel mapping. I'm not jumping on the wagon just yet, but I think it has potential. |
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February 23rd, 2013, 04:28 AM | #246 |
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I'd rather have a 300. Still has enough power when you need it but retains the small bike appeal of the 250. If my 500 exploded for no reason tomorrow I'd probably replace it with a 650 of some sort or a 250/300 before a CB500 variant, if I'm gonna have the same amount of CCs using a couple decades newer technology I don't want to go down 15bhp...
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February 23rd, 2013, 08:27 AM | #247 | |
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The engine has a relatively long stroke compared to its bore. That means it's going to make a lot of torque. But it still stays within the same UK engine restrictions that the 300 does. Like I said before, I'm betting a little work will change it a lot. All this means is you'll have more torque than the 300. Torque is fun. Who cares about top speed? Take one for a test ride before you bash on it for no other reason than numbers. |
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February 24th, 2013, 11:28 PM | #248 | |
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I'm sure it will be a great bike, it is a honda, just probably not what I'm looking for. |
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February 24th, 2013, 11:56 PM | #249 |
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February 25th, 2013, 04:41 AM | #250 |
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It will be interesting to see what the aftermarket does with these Honda triplets. Whether they will be embraced like the Ninjette or not waits to be seen but they could have alot of potential.
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February 25th, 2013, 07:26 AM | #251 |
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February 25th, 2013, 09:17 AM | #252 |
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February 28th, 2013, 11:32 AM | #253 |
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2013 HONDA 500s ? are they competition for the Ninjette or a market unto them selves?
Has anyone checked out or test rode the New honda 500s?
Do 500s appeal to a different market share? I mean CB 250 and ninja 300 have a defined market (informed weekend warriors on a budget / beginners to the sport) Honda has three Sport bikes in the 500 pool? is anyone else offering 500s? Cb500F Naked/streetfighter style CBR500R Full fairing sport bike CB500X Adventure Bike? My take on it is that they have very competitive prices parallel twin 500 cc fuel injected! And the X looks very nice (styling cues from the BMWs) The CB500F is very aggresive for a naked bike - What would Kawasaki's most similar competition be ? CB500x - Versys? CBR 500 - Ninja 650? Does Kawa even have a naked ?> what about other manufacture s Throw in your two cents |
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February 28th, 2013, 01:13 PM | #254 |
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I commend Honda for trying to bring the under 600cc sportbike market into the US, but the 500R falls flat. I would LOVE to see a true super sport styled and ergo'd bike with about 60rwhp and weighing in at 400lbs or less. But another 'regular' sport? Meh.
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February 28th, 2013, 02:22 PM | #255 |
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February 28th, 2013, 03:12 PM | #257 | |
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February 28th, 2013, 03:39 PM | #258 |
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February 28th, 2013, 07:15 PM | #259 | |
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March 2nd, 2013, 01:09 PM | #260 |
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Anyone else think honda stole kawasaki's headlight style?
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March 2nd, 2013, 01:54 PM | #261 |
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March 2nd, 2013, 02:06 PM | #262 |
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March 2nd, 2013, 02:06 PM | #263 |
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Honda wouldn't steal anything from such an inferior machine
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March 2nd, 2013, 02:27 PM | #264 |
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Looks different to me.
MCN has a full review in their February 27 issue if anyone has access to it. You can also find a YouTube vid where Phil West discusses some highlights. There are also a number of French reviews out there. |
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March 2nd, 2013, 05:42 PM | #265 |
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Was looking at the CBR500 for sure as my first bike. I thought 500 cc's in Canada to get under the 600cc insurance bracket, cheap but still fun bike.
After reading about the 47hp and 8.5k red line I am less inclined to pick one up. I was expecting it to perform atleast as well as the old ninja 500 or better =\ Honestly, wish Yamaha would just crank out a 400 or 500cc sport bike similar to their R125. Something that looks extremely sexy, puts out about 55-65hp for around 7k new, now that would be HEAVEN. Until then, I think I will pick up a 300 to learn on since I'm on a budget for the time being and then just upgrade to a 600 later. CBR500 seems like kind of a tease. It's like an ugly girl you settle for because atleast you think she has big ****. Later when you go under the shirt for the first time, you find out she has a padded push up bra and what you think was going to be a redeeming quality, isn't at all. |
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March 2nd, 2013, 06:40 PM | #266 |
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We need chone here to tell this guy its not all about power, I don't want to steal his job lol. Why not just get a Ninja 500 then if the extra 15 or so horsepower is that big of a deal. You're probably gonna drop it and mess up the body work anyways so saying the n500 is ugly is kind of redundant. They're a hell of a lot cheaper than a new bike too.
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March 2nd, 2013, 07:38 PM | #267 | |
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Ninja 500: fun, cheap, ugly as sin CBR500r: meh looking, meh fun, and expensive (I've heard 8 to 8.5k otd here)] Ninja 300: moderately fun, good looking, and 6k otd here in Canada. Honestly, a used 600 is 2k cheaper than the 500, way sexier, way faster. Only draw back is insurance on the 600. I find it hard to drop 8.5k on a 500 if it's only marginally more fun and more ugly than a ninja 300 while being so expensive |
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March 2nd, 2013, 07:41 PM | #268 |
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A 250/300 will be a lot more fun on the streets than a 600 if you know how to ride it. A 600+ is too much for a beginner to handle properly
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but really AYB, fun and power are not directly correlated. aka more power =/= more fun, and less power =/= less fun. All motorcycles are fun. They're motorcycles. If you think that 600's and 500's are similar enough that the only difference is the cost of insurance, go ride on the back of a 600 with someone who know what they're doing. Then go ride a 500/300/250. |
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March 2nd, 2013, 08:02 PM | #270 |
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March 2nd, 2013, 08:13 PM | #271 |
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The headlights are more reminiscent of the 1000rr to me. I felt like the 600rr (pre-2013) had a sleeker headlight design than the 1000rr's. Still waiting for someone to go buy the 500 and give us a review
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March 3rd, 2013, 08:21 AM | #272 |
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Haha sorry for the moderately fun comments. I ride 250 two stroke dirt bikes and 700 tripple snowmobiles so I love speed
I want to pick up something cheap to learn on instead of hopping straight to a 600, thats why it's between the 300 and 500. Honestly though riding IS riding, just pumped to be getting anything to get out there on. I guess what I was trying to say is that the 500 doesn't appear to have enough of a performance upgrade over the 300 to warrant the price difference. Now if it had the performance of the duke 390 I'd prolly jizz right in my pants. |
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March 3rd, 2013, 02:25 PM | #274 |
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I'm completely alright with 47 hp, and I'm already on a license that would allow me to ride a ZX14 (which I did take for a demo ride, just for snorts and giggles)
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March 3rd, 2013, 07:04 PM | #275 |
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Just to clear the air. The ninja 500 makes 50 give or take rwhp with intake, jetting and exhaust. Supposedly the cbr 500 will be "unrestricted" for North American markets. It probably will make 47 to 45 rwhp. It's a 470cc engine bike. A 100hp per liter is what should be expected out of a modest performing engine in motorcycle land. The ninja 500 is what the crf230 is to the dirt world. It is great for what it is but it's a beginner oriented bike that isn't really a huge step over the 250.
AYB if you're so concerned about having power and getting it at a lower price point there are a lot of options on the used market. Sv650, ninja 650, older 600s all can be found for under 4 grand. If you're looking for a stepping stone buy a cheap used bike and sell it when you are ready for something else. |
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March 3rd, 2013, 07:35 PM | #276 | |
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March 3rd, 2013, 07:46 PM | #277 |
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Wrong. The Ninja 500 makes 50 or so rwhp STOCK and if you jet it or mess with the exhaust or anything the bike will run like garbage and maybe if extensively tuned will have a slightly higher peak horsepower but will run like garbage at any given rpm except wherever the powerband ends up being happiest. All I've seen for the CB500 is 47 crank horsepower, which is something more akin to a GS500 than an EX500. I don't understand why people say the Ninja 500s are just a small step up from the 250 there's a pretty big power gap there. Recommending a 100hp bike to a newbie seems like something that wouldn't fly on this forum, it seems like most people are even against 500s for a first bike here.
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March 3rd, 2013, 08:39 PM | #278 |
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I was waiting for kawikid to pounce lol...I've never ridden a ninja 500 but I felt like if I could just have a tad more power on my ninjette it would be ideal. So imagine the 500 is a great all rounder. The looks just don't jive with me though...
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March 3rd, 2013, 09:01 PM | #279 |
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No, it's just people are tired of you flogging your @&#*(@*(#& (* 500 here. There are quite a few 500 focused forums, where you can share your love for that generally unloved machine. What happened to you over there?
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March 4th, 2013, 12:57 AM | #280 |
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There's a thing against newbies hopping on a supersport. There are other more suitable bikes to start on, including some of the more street focused 600s.
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