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you have a lot of faith in yourself. Single vehicle motorcycle accidents are pretty high too.
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June 12th, 2012, 03:41 PM | #243 | |
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You took my post about ATGATT the wrong way. I never said gear is bad. I think I stated that gear is good, which it is......That post was about railing on people if they don't go out ATGATT every time they ride.
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June 12th, 2012, 03:45 PM | #244 |
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You had 40 feet to stop from 28mph?
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June 12th, 2012, 04:03 PM | #245 |
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Just ran out for a little testing........
Dead cold, stock IRC tires after 6 attempts my average stopping distance was 14.5 feet. Counting it off in my head it was right around 1 sec. per stop The time is a guesstimate....... the avg. feet to stop is a solid measured number. Looking back at you video if you had of properly panic braked you would have stopped before the end of the driveway on the left. That assuming a 28mph speed.
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June 12th, 2012, 04:32 PM | #246 |
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Yea 14.5 feet................Test was pick a line at which I could not brake before and when the bike stopped I put the kickstand down and measured with a tape measure from the line to the front of the contact patch on my tire.
In all actuality if I had all the crap you mention my braking distance would have been slightly lower.
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Im not hating. I just try and dress like im going to fall every time I hop on...
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June 12th, 2012, 04:39 PM | #248 |
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It's all good, MM. no worries mate
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At a deceleration rate of 1g, you'd still need more than 14.5 feet to stop from 28MPH. 1.3 seconds though. 41.076 FPS / 32FPSPS is around 1.3 seconds w/o reaction time. That's assuming 1g decel however.
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June 12th, 2012, 05:27 PM | #250 |
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No I don't know. I'm going to measure it sometime and then practice to see if I could have stopped in that distance (distance unknown as of now) I don't think you can stop from 28mph in 14 ft, that sounds quite off to me. Also, don't forget the speedo error
Also another thing, distance in feet really messes me up i.e. "oh you had 45 feet to stop? that seems like enough" compared to "oh you had 15 yards to stop? Thats def not enough" yes I know they are equivalent but the fact that they sound so different in my head makes me misjudge both. When I get a chance I will measure the distance from impact to initally seeing the tire move and initial reaction. then we can set up some valid tests to see how much speed I could have scrubbed off if I was pro
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I'm enjoying this thread more now, nice and lighthearted and progressively getting somewhere
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June 12th, 2012, 05:40 PM | #253 | |
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True. But I don't know your last name. Is your full name Sean Ninja Jiggles?? Well when I do that your crash thread pops up. Mmmmhm. You park your Ninja outside in the driveway, though. |
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June 12th, 2012, 05:46 PM | #256 | |
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30 MPH 33 feet http://www.motorvike.com/BrakingDistance.htm Everywhere I look seems to say that at 30mph you will go 33 feet to stop or more
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I'm fairly certain the distance I measure will be between 30-40 feet. Oh man, maybe if I was pro at braking I could have made it! Although I actually still would have crashed because my reaction was to go around her, not slam on the brakes -_-
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June 12th, 2012, 05:53 PM | #259 |
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I also realize that saying stopping in .9 seconds is wrong because if you were decelerating fast enough that time to impact would be extended
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Argh! I'm very excited to go measure, how should I go about it? I doubt a tape measure is feasible
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June 12th, 2012, 05:55 PM | #261 |
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Sorry guys. Hopefully someone else who has been riding for a while will do the test also and confirm my results. 33 feet/40 feet....lol.... I will see if I can post the vid. Will take a while.
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June 12th, 2012, 05:56 PM | #262 |
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You are correct Jigs. The time it takes to stop is irrelevant. It's just whether you can stop in X amount of feet.
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cmon now, I'm not super man
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June 12th, 2012, 06:12 PM | #265 |
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Hey, come on now, you are superman. You're back on your bike and enjoying life again!
As we can see though, that reaction time is very precious. |
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That it is, I may adopt the brake covered technique for situations like these. Who knows, maybe that .150 seconds it shaves off would be the ultimate deciding factor on whether or not stopping in time is even feasible
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June 12th, 2012, 06:20 PM | #267 |
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I've shown this vid to a bunch of people and most agree that it was physically possible to stop in the total distance, but also agree that recognizing and actively countering the situation would be very hard.
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June 12th, 2012, 06:22 PM | #268 |
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You know what's funny, if I was in a car, no one would be saying anything about me lol
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Well you wouldn't have broken your femur.
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It's difficult to find examples of motorcycles 30-0 times listed anywhere reliable let alone 28. However there are plenty of places you can find car 30-0. A few examples: 911 Carerra GTS: 27 feet http://www.edmunds.com/porsche/911/2...est-specs.html New BRZ: 28 feet http://www.insideline.com/subaru/brz...and-video.html Evo X and 335i: 29 and 27 feet respectively http://www.insideline.com/mitsubishi...r-touring.html So you (drac) are awesome enough to stop in barely over half the distance of these cars despite the cars ability to just slam on the binders and let the abs and massive amounts of rubber do the work for you. Impressive. Oh, and here's a study done by the MSF on a few different bikes comparing ABS to no ABS. Lucky for us it lists 30-0 stopping distances (though its listed in kph). Guess what, the absolute best result was over 34 feet. (they list it in meters btw) http://www.msf-usa.org/imsc/proceedi...ngdistance.pdf Somehow I doubt those 2mph extra more than double the stopping distance. |
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Nope, I would have broken a frail 17yr old girl lol
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June 12th, 2012, 06:36 PM | #273 |
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If it takes you 30+ feet to stop a newgen ninja 250 from 28mph then you need serious braking practice........A Goldwing or Harley maybe.....but a ninja 250...lol
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Why, yes I am...lol. Do you have any idea what those cars weigh?????? Your comparison is ludicrous.
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dracs speedo is on meth O.o
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Dudes....WTF r u people talking about..........I just stopped my 2009 ninja 250 from 28(32 on speedo)mph to a stop 9 times.....Averaged 14/15ft the first 6. The last three were 20, 17, 15.5......
And you guys are telling me that is impossible?????? It happened, it is a fact......deal with it Will post the vid tonight if I can. Will try to get a better vid in the next couple days. Sorry but you guys don't know what you are talking about.
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Are you trying to say your decel rate was greater than 1g? Please show me the math that adds up to a 14.5 ft stopping distance from 41fps.
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Wow you have a really big error on your speedo. that's a 14% error!
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