what is a good rear tire size?? - Page 2

newboy17 · June 27th, 2011, 09:27 PM

just order the Michelin Pilot Power Rear Tire 150/60/17 it came out to 105.29 thanks guy

kkim · June 27th, 2011, 09:29 PM

you know they don't recommend mixing a radial and a bias ply tire on the bike, right?

newboy17 · June 27th, 2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kkim

you know they don't recommend mixing a radial and a bias ply tire on the bike, right?

an why is that, is there any particular reson ?

kkim · June 27th, 2011, 09:37 PM

different construction methods will make the tires flex differently affecting handling. I always replace my tires as a set of like brand and model of tires.

I take it you weren't aware of this? Go to any tire manufactures' website and they all warn of not mixing construction types.

newboy17 · June 27th, 2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kkim

different construction methods will make the tires flex differently affecting handling. I always replace my tires as a set of like brand and model of tires.

I take it you weren't aware of this? Go to any tire manufactures' website and they all warn of not mixing construction types.

well i am goin to buy the front in 2 weeks , but my rear tires is in prety bad shape , last owner , never lean while making truns, the middle of the tire is flat and the edges looks brand new , i had the bike for about a month now and when you look at the tires you can telll i get on the turns, just on sat i went out riding and i had to stop short at a red light, the rear tired locked up on me lost control of the bike but thank got i was able to get control over the rear and stop the bike without me dropping it or hitting my friend who also stop short, i was just breaking, not hard either, im not riding the bike now bc it needs a new rear tire asap......

alex.s · June 27th, 2011, 09:55 PM

sounds like there's more than just a tire issue here

newboy17 · June 27th, 2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

sounds like there's more than just a tire issue here

yeah i had your fat ass girlfriend on the back...

kkim · June 27th, 2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by newboy17

yeah i had your fat ass girlfriend on the back...

this is not kawiforums. you want help or not?

alex.s · June 27th, 2011, 10:05 PM

just my opinion but if you're braking hard you shouldn't be on the rear brake... braking so hard pushes the weight to your front tire and there isn't enough grip on your rear... it just locks up. leave it in gear and feed the clutch as you slow down so you don't stall. also just my opinion, but i would rather not stop short at a yellow light for fear of being rear ended if i can make it through the yellow... and... also just my opinion but if you didn't see it turn yellow in time maybe there's another issue here. too fast? not looking far enough ahead? staring at my fat girlfriend on the back?

Alex · June 27th, 2011, 10:12 PM

Locking the rear isn't a tire problem, it's a rider problem.

newboy17 · June 27th, 2011, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Locking the rear isn't a tire problem, it's a rider problem.

that i know, but the tire was a the main reason why it happen

alex.s · June 27th, 2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by newboy17

that i know, but the tire was a the main reason why it happen

really? so you didn't touch the rear brake at all then?

newboy17 · June 27th, 2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kkim

this is not kawiforums. you want help or not?

yes i wanted help and i got it and thank you very much for your great inputs, but i dont need negative feed backs, (not from you, you have great input and info thanks.)

Buffalony · June 27th, 2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kkim

this is not kawiforums. you want help or not?

kkim · June 27th, 2011, 10:39 PM

Alex (both of them) was trying to point out that a sliding rear tire is a rider induced problem, not only a flatted rear tire issue. It happens to all of us at one point or another, especially on this bike, but the cure is to learn how to use the rear brake better. You need to learn/get a feel for the rear under hard braking situations.

Not saying you don't need a rear tire, but there are ways around the sliding problem you are having.

newboy17 · June 27th, 2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

just my opinion but if you're braking hard you shouldn't be on the rear brake... braking so hard pushes the weight to your front tire and there isn't enough grip on your rear... it just locks up. leave it in gear and feed the clutch as you slow down so you don't stall. also just my opinion, but i would rather not stop short at a yellow light for fear of being rear ended if i can make it through the yellow... and... also just my opinion but if you didn't see it turn yellow in time maybe there's another issue here. too fast? not looking far enough ahead? staring at my fat girlfriend on the back?

no actually it was 2 red light , and they were about 50 yards apart, we wwere coming from the parkway at a regular speed, we didnt see the light bc we were looking at the 2nd red light, idk how your roads and light work in your state , and we werent speeding we were doin about 30-45mph , we didnt see the light bc we were looking at the wrong traffic light, lesson learn but my rear tire on the middle looks like a set of slick tires on my track car ..................my friend was a head he was in his 600 even he had a hard time stopping ,we both pass the white lane....

newboy17 · June 27th, 2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

really? so you didn't touch the rear brake at all then?

i sure did , i got on both brakes more on the front then the rear, hey i didnt start riding a month ago, im from colombia where motorcycle are most ppl source of transportation, and i had a motorcycle there, were even havy rain didnt stop any one from getting from point a-b. yes it happens to any one and im not excusing my self who been riding since i was 7 years old,.. but the reality is that I NEED A NEW REAR TIRE BC LAST OWNER DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RIDE AND ONLY WENT STRAIGHT AND TO TURN HE WOULD SLOW DOWN AND STEER, NOT ALLOWING THE TIRE TO WEAR OUT EVEN...

Alex · June 27th, 2011, 10:52 PM

WHAT?

alex.s · June 27th, 2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by newboy17

no actually it was 2 red light , and they were about 50 yards apart, we wwere coming from the parkway at a regular speed, we didnt see the light bc we were looking at the 2nd red light, idk how your roads and light work in your state , and we werent speeding we were doin about 30-45mph , we didnt see the light bc we were looking at the wrong traffic light, lesson learn but my rear tire on the middle looks like a set of slick tires on my track car ..................my friend was a head he was in his 600 even he had a hard time stopping ,we both pass the white lane....

something just doesn't sound right here. 30-45mph? the light you were looking at was 50 yards in front of the one you stopped at, but how long did you have to see that the light you were supposed to stop at was red? how long do your lights stay yellow before turning red? isn't the national standard 3 seconds?

disregarding all of this... a rear tire doesn't lock up by it's self. that's the point we were trying to make. motorcycles aren't cars. you mess up, it isn't just an insurance problem. you die, or worse, you wind up horribly disfigured and paralyzed with minimal brain function and wind up having someone support you the rest of your life. what i'm trying to get across here is that if you're new to performing a skill that when you fail has dire consequences, you shouldn't throw up so much attitude when people legitimately try to help you develop those skills. which is what people here try to do. help.

newboy17 · June 27th, 2011, 11:01 PM

any ways thank you guys for great info on tire brands and sizes, my ninja needs a rear tire and thanks to your input and info i just order it......

ratlab · June 27th, 2011, 11:43 PM

don't go for the 120 front -i made that mistake it slows down steering and you will slide off rear and have over an inch of tire to use in front -it does feel stable in a straight line, but it's useless in cornering

NathanUc · June 28th, 2011, 12:12 AM

(110)140/70/17 sport demon seems to be the best of both worlds imo.

It's a bit wider giving it a beefier look but doesn't have any real fitting issues. I personally stuck with 110/130 to keep weight down and performance up. I've ridden on my friends 250r with the 120/150 setup and to me it didn't feel any different in a straight line. Cornering felt slower to drop in and less stable in a lean but that could have just been me now used to a different bike (even if it's same model).

I originally ordered mine from Moto Superstore but was able to get a bigger discount at my dealership due to installation fees. Moto Superstore is awesome though

whiteboy · June 28th, 2011, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NathanUc

(110)140/70/17 sport demon seems to be the best of both worlds imo.

It's a bit wider giving it a beefier look but doesn't have any real fitting issues. I personally stuck with 110/130 to keep weight down and performance up. I've ridden on my friends 250r with the 120/150 setup and to me it didn't feel any different in a straight line. Cornering felt slower to drop in and less stable in a lean but that could have just been me now used to a different bike (even if it's same model).

I originally ordered mine from Moto Superstore but was able to get a bigger discount at my dealership due to installation fees. Moto Superstore is awesome though

Are The Demons are good for comuting and a few weak twistys on weekends? I'm thinking of upgrading to em from the stock tires I just don't feel comfterable leaning to much on stock.

NathanUc · June 28th, 2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteboy

Are The Demons are good for comuting and a few weak twistys on weekends? I'm thinking of upgrading to em from the stock tires I just don't feel comfterable leaning to much on stock.

I don't have anything else to compare them to other than the stock IRC, but compared to those the sport demons are absolutely amazing. I've put a little over 1,000 miles on them so far in just about any condition (except really cold) and they've done beautifully. After the break in period, I've never had one slide in rain or dry (I'm still super cautious in the rain from bad experiences with the IRC).

Once I wear these out, I definitely plan on getting another set. For under $100 each, they can't be beat imo.

newboy17 · July 1st, 2011, 12:39 PM

Its actually 75 to get it install, and the dealers charge 95 ....... They putting the tire on rite now
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Alex · July 1st, 2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by newboy17

Its actually 75 to get it install, and the dealers charge 95 ....... They putting the tire on rite now

To install a tire? Out here there a number of places that will mount and balance a tire (off the bike) for $20 or less, and $40 - $50 at most if you want the shop to remove and replace the wheel from the bike as well. $95 is quite a shock...

alex.s · July 1st, 2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

To install a tire? Out here there a number of places that will mount and balance a tire (off the bike) for $20 or less, and $40 - $50 at most if you want the shop to remove and replace the wheel from the bike as well. $95 is quite a shock...

quite a shock. maybe he's getting a happy ending with it???

newboy17 · July 1st, 2011, 03:26 PM

Eyup 95 everything is expensive here
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newboy17 · July 1st, 2011, 03:27 PM

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quite a shock. maybe he's getting a happy ending with it???

Lol
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newboy17 · July 1st, 2011, 03:28 PM

Tire looks really nice on the bike, it feels way better
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alex.s · July 1st, 2011, 03:33 PM

be careful with the fresh rubber for the first 50ish miles. loads of people have dumped it thinking it was all good only to realize brand new tires don't have much bite.

newboy17 · July 1st, 2011, 03:35 PM

yeah thanks for the advice, dude at the tire shop told me as well
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alex.s · July 1st, 2011, 03:39 PM

adri99an · July 1st, 2011, 04:42 PM

How about a pic? I thought Cali was expensive-NY wins!
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newboy17 · July 1st, 2011, 04:45 PM

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How about a pic? I thought Cali was expensive-NY wins!
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In a bit
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alex.s · July 1st, 2011, 04:48 PM

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I thought Cali was expensive-NY wins!
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with prices like that you may want to invest in some tire irons and learn how to mount/balance them yourself

newboy17 · July 1st, 2011, 10:17 PM

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with prices like that you may want to invest in some tire irons and learn how to mount/balance them yourself

Yeah , it didn't look hard at all , I know how to do car tires, same thing , is just the weights on the rim is diff, but I will do the front tire my self
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newboy17 · July 3rd, 2011, 12:40 AM

here it is , also just install the PLMFG exhaust system , loud but sweet , deff made a big diff on the 250

boytoy101 · July 3rd, 2011, 06:01 AM

here's mine a bt003 racing street tires w/ moded er6f rear rim from blackrod together w/ my friend green bike...

adri99an · July 3rd, 2011, 10:57 AM

Love that tire...best thing since sliced cheese

Did you have to use the er6f to get it to fit just right? I had that tire on my 08- no mods....

June 27th, 2011, 09:55 PM	#46
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	sounds like there's more than just a tire issue here __________________________________________________

June 27th, 2011, 10:05 PM	#49
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	just my opinion but if you're braking hard you shouldn't be on the rear brake... braking so hard pushes the weight to your front tire and there isn't enough grip on your rear... it just locks up. leave it in gear and feed the clutch as you slow down so you don't stall. also just my opinion, but i would rather not stop short at a yellow light for fear of being rear ended if i can make it through the yellow... and... also just my opinion but if you didn't see it turn yellow in time maybe there's another issue here. too fast? not looking far enough ahead? staring at my fat girlfriend on the back? __________________________________________________

June 27th, 2011, 10:12 PM	#50
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June 27th, 2011, 10:52 PM	#58
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	WHAT? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

June 28th, 2011, 12:12 AM	#62
NathanUc B-Town Ninja Name: Nathan Location: Bloomington, IN Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Black 2013 Ninja ZX6R ABS Posts: 609 Blog Entries: 3	(110)140/70/17 sport demon seems to be the best of both worlds imo. It's a bit wider giving it a beefier look but doesn't have any real fitting issues. I personally stuck with 110/130 to keep weight down and performance up. I've ridden on my friends 250r with the 120/150 setup and to me it didn't feel any different in a straight line. Cornering felt slower to drop in and less stable in a lean but that could have just been me now used to a different bike (even if it's same model). I originally ordered mine from Moto Superstore but was able to get a bigger discount at my dealership due to installation fees. Moto Superstore is awesome though __________________________________________________ Downgraded to a 2013 636. Previous owner of a 2010 250r --------------------------------- My moto-vlog YouTube channel http://www.youtube.com/bloomingtonninja

June 27th, 2011, 09:27 PM	#41
newboy17 ninjette.org newboy17 Name: robert Location: (LI) new york Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 blue ninja 250 Posts: 53	just order the Michelin Pilot Power Rear Tire 150/60/17 it came out to 105.29 thanks guy

June 27th, 2011, 09:29 PM	#42
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	you know they don't recommend mixing a radial and a bias ply tire on the bike, right?

June 27th, 2011, 09:37 PM	#44
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	different construction methods will make the tires flex differently affecting handling. I always replace my tires as a set of like brand and model of tires. I take it you weren't aware of this? Go to any tire manufactures' website and they all warn of not mixing construction types.

June 27th, 2011, 10:39 PM	#55
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Alex (both of them) was trying to point out that a sliding rear tire is a rider induced problem, not only a flatted rear tire issue. It happens to all of us at one point or another, especially on this bike, but the cure is to learn how to use the rear brake better. You need to learn/get a feel for the rear under hard braking situations. Not saying you don't need a rear tire, but there are ways around the sliding problem you are having.

June 27th, 2011, 11:01 PM	#60
newboy17 ninjette.org newboy17 Name: robert Location: (LI) new york Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 blue ninja 250 Posts: 53	any ways thank you guys for great info on tire brands and sizes, my ninja needs a rear tire and thanks to your input and info i just order it......

June 27th, 2011, 11:43 PM	#61
ratlab ratlab Name: reese Location: tracy, ca Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): gsxr1000,R3x2,RC390,FZ07,XR100 Posts: 132	don't go for the 120 front -i made that mistake it slows down steering and you will slide off rear and have over an inch of tire to use in front -it does feel stable in a straight line, but it's useless in cornering

July 1st, 2011, 12:39 PM	#65
newboy17 ninjette.org newboy17 Name: robert Location: (LI) new york Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 blue ninja 250 Posts: 53	Its actually 75 to get it install, and the dealers charge 95 ....... They putting the tire on rite now Posted via Mobile Device

July 1st, 2011, 03:26 PM	#68
newboy17 ninjette.org newboy17 Name: robert Location: (LI) new york Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 blue ninja 250 Posts: 53	Eyup 95 everything is expensive here Posted via Mobile Device

July 1st, 2011, 03:28 PM	#70
newboy17 ninjette.org newboy17 Name: robert Location: (LI) new york Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 blue ninja 250 Posts: 53	Tire looks really nice on the bike, it feels way better Posted via Mobile Device

July 1st, 2011, 03:33 PM	#71
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	be careful with the fresh rubber for the first 50ish miles. loads of people have dumped it thinking it was all good only to realize brand new tires don't have much bite. __________________________________________________

July 1st, 2011, 03:35 PM	#72
newboy17 ninjette.org newboy17 Name: robert Location: (LI) new york Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 blue ninja 250 Posts: 53	yeah thanks for the advice, dude at the tire shop told me as well Posted via Mobile Device

July 1st, 2011, 03:39 PM	#73
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	__________________________________________________

July 1st, 2011, 04:42 PM	#74
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	How about a pic? I thought Cali was expensive-NY wins! Posted via Mobile Device

July 3rd, 2011, 10:57 AM	#80
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	Love that tire...best thing since sliced cheese Did you have to use the er6f to get it to fit just right? I had that tire on my 08- no mods....

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