2012 cbr250r

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 02:35 PM

I think these just came out...because I just noticed lol

Starts at $4,099

w/ABS $4,599

Pictures...looks like they brought the European model color here...

I think the scheme is gross. Why doesn't the front hugger match the rear? Just my opinion.

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 02:48 PM

Interesting...see if I was your age (no offense) I would be impressed...I think. Are you?

gfloyd2002 · February 23rd, 2012, 03:16 PM

Agree on the paint scheme, Nick. Also ugly exhaust and uglier front mirrors makes it look like a bug. Out of the box, not as fun to ride as the Ninjette. Likely very reliable, though, and like the ABS option.

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 03:18 PM

I heard they are having problems with valves (clapping) and Honda won't do anything about it...I don't blame them if there is a problem. It's was the first year of the bike. I would expect there to be problems. The new bikes with this body type are grotesque in my opinion.

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 03:27 PM

I'd like it if it was more symmetrical.

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 03:29 PM

If I owned that bike, the first thing I would do would be take off the chin fairing and paint it white to match the rest of the bike, and find a way to paint the hugger red to match the front fender.

oh hey wait, I will be looking into painting my cbr hugger once I get it installed

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 03:36 PM

have fun! What color?

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 03:38 PM

Lime green! duh!

It depends. There's really no well defined line to mask off and paint, so I might not. It all depends on how it looks once it's on...

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 03:39 PM

Paint it.

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 03:40 PM

We'll see once we get to installing it in 2 weeks. Patience grasshoppah! Not to mention the color matching paint from colorrite is expensive.

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 03:41 PM

Home Depot ftw

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 03:45 PM

GROSS LOL

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixter

or as I refer to it "booger green"

I think something's wrong with your nose mate...

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 03:54 PM

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 03:57 PM

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixter

I also call it "diarrhea green" and have used both terms to the dealer when discussing the purchase

this is diarrhea green to you??

again, I think something is wrong with your nose. AND your bowls

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 04:13 PM

nope. I'm still going with blaming your bowels.

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 04:48 PM

Lax

etiainen · February 23rd, 2012, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfloyd2002

Agree on the paint scheme, Nick. Also ugly exhaust and uglier front mirrors makes it look like a bug. Out of the box, not as fun to ride as the Ninjette. Likely very reliable, though, and like the ABS option.

I can't say I'm the biggest fan of the look, but a lot of non-riders seem to dig mine

A lot of people are saying the rattling thing is the fairing, possibly near the headlight from what I read, and I've never noticed an issue of any sorts.

Fun-wise...well it's just different all around. Getting my parts smashed into the tank on crap roads near my house isn't fun either. The suspension on the CBR is much better for commuting and crap roads. I also like the lack of revving drama at lights. Getting better gas mileage also puts a grin on my face. I will say I did prefer the Ninjette in twisties as the suspension just made corners a lot better, and the CBR suspension can get a little iffy on tight corners. Also the braking felt better on the Kawi. However, 95% of my riding is commuting/touring and the CBR does it for me. Also EFI is nice too in my winter commute

Plus on the freeway it buzzes less, and the stock seat is definitely better, a definite upgrade on 300+ mile days.

Also nothing's better than running patriotic colours, I want one of those

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etiainen

Also nothing's better than running patriotic colours, I want one of those

There's no gold in the american flag lol

NDspd · February 23rd, 2012, 07:15 PM

God that CBR250 is god awful.

etiainen · February 23rd, 2012, 07:16 PM

I must've split some on mine

thisisbenji · February 23rd, 2012, 07:22 PM

I like the color scene actually.

I personally want this one.

Might just be my new bike after I graduate college and get a job that is.

I like the version with white wheels on the Honda website better though.

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 08:12 PM

I like this one...but I wish the rear hugger matched the front

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

There's no gold in the american flag lol

ORLY?

You've obviously never been in a government building before

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 09:13 PM

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 09:33 PM

Yes I did know that actually

But coincidentally, whenever you go in a government building, the flags always have the gold fringe. Heck, even the boyscouts use a flag with gold fringes

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 09:48 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouting

I'm not trying to argue anything here...

Nick said that gold wasn't on the American flag. I showed an example where it was.

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 10:03 PM

Alright...I never really meant to disagree

There's gold on certain American flags.

choneofakind · February 23rd, 2012, 10:04 PM

Oh gotcha. I must have just been imaging a debating vibe. then. I'm going crazy for real here...

Yep they were. There are tons of eagle scouts in Military Academies and the armed forces. Not to mention places like the Senate, and the House, and the office of the President, and astronauts and lots of cool places like that. Not sure if that's a factor of being an eagle scout, or just a factor of the type of person who becomes an eagle scout, or a combination. I wish I became an eagle scout. I helped with the service hours on all my friends' eagle projects. I however dropped out of boy scouts in 4th grade

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2012, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Oh gotcha. I must have just been imaging a debating vibe. then. I'm going crazy for real here...

Yep they were. There are tons of eagle scouts in Military Academies and the armed forces. Not to mention places like the Senate, and the House, and the office of the President, and astronauts and lots of cool places like that. Not sure if that's a factor of being an eagle scout, or just a factor of the type of person who becomes an eagle scout, or a combination. I wish I became an eagle scout. I helped with the service hours on all my friends' eagle projects. I however dropped out of boy scouts in 4th grade

Me too!

I dropped out as well...but I don't regret it. My troop was horrible. They didn't do anything correctly.

etiainen · February 24th, 2012, 09:45 AM

I'm an Eagle Scout

n4mwd · February 25th, 2012, 12:26 PM

Nick, the CBR 250 is basically just a mini-cruiser with a plastic body. I think a Prius with a dead battery can out accelerate and outrun the things. Don't confuse the new ones with the old ones that had 4 cylinders and power roughly equivalent to the Ninjette. The new CBR 250's only have one cylinder. That's half what a decent riding lawnmower has.

Don't be tempted by them. A Ninja is the only 250 cc sport bike worth having.

choneofakind · February 25th, 2012, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

I think a Prius with a dead battery can out accelerate and outrun the things.

Pretty sure that's false

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

Don't confuse the new ones with the old ones that had 4 cylinders and power roughly equivalent to the Ninjette.

Pretty sure that's false too. Those were putting out like 40+ hp at insanely high rpm's. I haven't seen a ninjette doing that lately

n4mwd · February 25th, 2012, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Pretty sure that's false

Pretty sure that's false too. Those were putting out like 40+ hp at insanely high rpm's. I haven't seen a ninjette doing that lately

Ok, a prius with a charged battery can outrun it.

Actually, its true. The prius top speed is 103 mph. The CBR 250R is only about 90 mph.

But yes, the 1999 CBR 250 had 4 cylinders and power roughly the same as the pregen (not the newgen). It actually was slightly better, but not that much (37.5 HP vs. 40 HP). The main thing was that the old cbr 250 got over 94 mpg and had a top speed of about 110 mph.

Honda seems to have a policy of dropping product lines whenever they get too popular.

etiainen · February 25th, 2012, 01:34 PM

Ninja 250s aren't that amazing top speed wise either.....

Because we're all just gunning it at top speed 100% of the time.

Must be awesome doing that...

choneofakind · February 25th, 2012, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

Ok, a prius with a charged battery can outrun it.

Actually, its true. The prius top speed is 103 mph. The CBR 250R is only about 90 mph.

as a 250 rider, are you really looking at fast by only looking at top speed??

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

But yes, the 1999 CBR 250 had 4 cylinders and power roughly the same as the pregen (not the newgen). It actually was slightly better, but not that much (37.5 HP vs. 40 HP). The main thing was that the old cbr 250 got over 94 mpg and had a top speed of about 110 mph.

Honda seems to have a policy of dropping product lines whenever they get too popular.

idk where you're getting your numbers from, but for the CBR250RR, those numbers are at the wheel, where for the ninja, those numbers are at the flywheel. Ninja 250's get mid-high 20's at the wheels.

Link to original page on YouTube.

You do know all the big 4 had a 250cc inline 4 screamer until the 90's right? Not just Honda. (ZX2R, CBR250RR etc...) They all got dropped from production, and were never imported into the US except for private imports

etiainen · February 25th, 2012, 02:19 PM

94 MPG...on what planet? lol

n4mwd · February 25th, 2012, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

as a 250 rider, are you really looking at fast by only looking at top speed??

You do know all the big 4 had a 250cc inline 4 screamer until the 90's right? Not just Honda. (ZX2R, CBR250RR etc...) They all got dropped from production, and were never imported into the US except for private imports

The accelleration of a new cbr 250 isn't that much better than a prius either.

2011 Toyota Prius Hybrid 0-60 mph 9.7 secs
2011 CBR250R 0-60 mph 8.5 secs
1999 CBR250RR 0-60 mph 5.0 secs
2011 Ninja 250R 0-60 mph 7.7 secs
2006 Ninja 250R 0-60 mph 5.75 secs

Sources hyperlinked.

Yes, its sad that the never sold the old CBR250RR here. It looked like a nice bike. It was definitely faster than the Ninjette, but not by much.

Also, to give the devil his due, I have heard rumors that there are chips that you can put in the new CBR250R that give it better performance, but stock, it sucks.

Alex · February 25th, 2012, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

But yes, the 1999 CBR 250 had 4 cylinders and power roughly the same as the pregen (not the newgen). It actually was slightly better, but not that much (37.5 HP vs. 40 HP). The main thing was that the old cbr 250 got over 94 mpg and had a top speed of about 110 mph.

We've done this before. It didn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

That figure is misleading. Here is the original honda doc for that 4-cyl cbr250:

http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/moto...00300/011.html

It lists 40 kilometers per liter, at a constant speed of 60 km/hr.

Converted to numbers we're more familiar with, that is 94 mpg, at a constant speed of 37 mph (in top gear). The bike would get nowhere near 94 mpg on a standard mileage loop today, or in normal usage either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

I didn't know that. A constant speed is no way to test for mpg. Its not even close to realistic.

When I was first learning to ride my Ninja I rode over to Wellington, a local neighborhood, and just rode around until I was just about out of gas. The average speed limit was about 35-40. At the next fill up, it worked out to 80 mpg. That was with real live traffic and starting and stopping and such. It would have probably done 94 on a constant speed dyno as well. At real speeds, it was about 70 mpg pretty regular and then dropped to 58 when they upped the percentage of ethanol recently.

February 23rd, 2012, 02:35 PM	#1
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	2012 cbr250r I think these just came out...because I just noticed lol Starts at $4,099 w/ABS $4,599 Pictures...looks like they brought the European model color here... I think the scheme is gross. Why doesn't the front hugger match the rear? Just my opinion. __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 02:48 PM	#2
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Interesting...see if I was your age (no offense) I would be impressed...I think. Are you? __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 03:16 PM	#3
gfloyd2002 User Title Free Since '12 Name: Floyd Location: Barbados Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 Ninja 250R Special Edition Green Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 13 MOTM - Feb '12	Agree on the paint scheme, Nick. Also ugly exhaust and uglier front mirrors makes it look like a bug. Out of the box, not as fun to ride as the Ninjette. Likely very reliable, though, and like the ABS option. __________________________________________________ "Improvement makes straight roads, but the crooked roads without improvement, are roads of genius." — William Blake

February 23rd, 2012, 03:18 PM	#4
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I heard they are having problems with valves (clapping) and Honda won't do anything about it...I don't blame them if there is a problem. It's was the first year of the bike. I would expect there to be problems. The new bikes with this body type are grotesque in my opinion. __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 03:27 PM	#5
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I'd like it if it was more symmetrical. __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 03:29 PM	#6
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	If I owned that bike, the first thing I would do would be take off the chin fairing and paint it white to match the rest of the bike, and find a way to paint the hugger red to match the front fender. oh hey wait, I will be looking into painting my cbr hugger once I get it installed

February 23rd, 2012, 03:36 PM	#7
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	have fun! What color? __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 03:38 PM	#8
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Lime green! duh! It depends. There's really no well defined line to mask off and paint, so I might not. It all depends on how it looks once it's on...

February 23rd, 2012, 03:39 PM	#9
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Paint it. __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 03:40 PM	#10
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	We'll see once we get to installing it in 2 weeks. Patience grasshoppah! Not to mention the color matching paint from colorrite is expensive.

February 23rd, 2012, 03:41 PM	#11
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Home Depot ftw __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 03:45 PM	#12
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	GROSS LOL __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 03:54 PM	#14
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	__________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 03:57 PM	#15
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	__________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 04:13 PM	#17
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	nope. I'm still going with blaming your bowels.

February 23rd, 2012, 04:48 PM	#18
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Lax __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 07:15 PM	#21
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	God that CBR250 is god awful.

February 23rd, 2012, 07:16 PM	#22
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	I must've split some on mine

February 23rd, 2012, 07:22 PM	#23
thisisbenji ninjette.org sage Name: Benji Location: Wadsworth, IL Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Sold), 2009 FZ6, 2015 Honda Grom Posts: 898	I like the color scene actually. I personally want this one. Might just be my new bike after I graduate college and get a job that is. I like the version with white wheels on the Honda website better though.

February 23rd, 2012, 08:12 PM	#24
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I like this one...but I wish the rear hugger matched the front __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 09:13 PM	#26
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	__________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 09:33 PM	#27
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Yes I did know that actually But coincidentally, whenever you go in a government building, the flags always have the gold fringe. Heck, even the boyscouts use a flag with gold fringes

February 23rd, 2012, 09:48 PM	#28
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouting I'm not trying to argue anything here... Nick said that gold wasn't on the American flag. I showed an example where it was.

February 23rd, 2012, 10:03 PM	#29
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Alright...I never really meant to disagree There's gold on certain American flags. __________________________________________________

February 23rd, 2012, 10:04 PM	#30
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Oh gotcha. I must have just been imaging a debating vibe. then. I'm going crazy for real here... Yep they were. There are tons of eagle scouts in Military Academies and the armed forces. Not to mention places like the Senate, and the House, and the office of the President, and astronauts and lots of cool places like that. Not sure if that's a factor of being an eagle scout, or just a factor of the type of person who becomes an eagle scout, or a combination. I wish I became an eagle scout. I helped with the service hours on all my friends' eagle projects. I however dropped out of boy scouts in 4th grade

February 24th, 2012, 09:45 AM	#32
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	I'm an Eagle Scout

February 25th, 2012, 12:26 PM	#33
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Nick, the CBR 250 is basically just a mini-cruiser with a plastic body. I think a Prius with a dead battery can out accelerate and outrun the things. Don't confuse the new ones with the old ones that had 4 cylinders and power roughly equivalent to the Ninjette. The new CBR 250's only have one cylinder. That's half what a decent riding lawnmower has. Don't be tempted by them. A Ninja is the only 250 cc sport bike worth having. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

February 25th, 2012, 01:34 PM	#36
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Ninja 250s aren't that amazing top speed wise either..... Because we're all just gunning it at top speed 100% of the time. Must be awesome doing that...

February 25th, 2012, 02:19 PM	#38
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	94 MPG...on what planet? lol

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