rusty exhaust tubes

the big mike · July 11th, 2011, 03:53 AM

It's almost not remarkable for anyone else, but everytime when I clean or see my bike I hate to see those rusty exhaust tubes. I just can't stop looking at them. This is a 3 year old bike that I bought from a friend. Have you got any solutions to make this shiny again?
I've been told to be careful when I do something about it as I might make holes in them.

EDIT: solution post 14 !!

scotty · July 11th, 2011, 03:58 AM

Wow, how did they become so rusty?? Buy a new/used header?

NathanUc · July 11th, 2011, 08:52 AM

Mine aren't rusty but they are as hell are ugly and need to be replaced ASAP (dented/cracked).

Your best bet is probably a full system exhaust. Can get a full system under $300 with shiny/pretty tubes

caps · July 11th, 2011, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanUc

Your best bet is probably a full system exhaust. Can get a full system under $300 with shiny/pretty tubes

try $150 shipped

alex.s · July 11th, 2011, 09:30 AM

get rid of the rust with electrolysis, clean them, then paint them with high temp paint. problem solved.

p.s. rust holes are only a problem if it's actually rusted all the way through the pipe. if this was the case your pipes would be falling apart already. give the rust spots a tap, if your finger goes through, you have holes, if not you don't.

Kevin2109 · July 11th, 2011, 11:59 AM

I have a pair for sale!

bob706 · July 11th, 2011, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caps

try $150 shipped

Damn - $100 cheaper than a slip-on

Might have to get this...

caps · July 11th, 2011, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob706

Damn - $100 cheaper than a slip-on

Might have to get this...

the big mike · July 11th, 2011, 01:12 PM

Thx for the response

Although I like the idea of pimping my bike with a full exhaust, I believe that this won't be the only mod I'll have to make, no? The problem is that I don't have the time nor the means (read: money) for those additional mods.

I do like the solution Alex.s is offering. I just don't understand the electrolysis part, is this something you can do at home? if not, how much will that cost me? All I want is that rusty look gone.

EDIT: Would it be bad just to put the high temp paint on just like that? it probably is, but I can always ask

SpeedDemon · July 11th, 2011, 01:24 PM

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78694.
Here is a link with another member sell stock pipes for i think like 75 bucks wont find anything cheapper than this other than at a wreckers

k-os · July 11th, 2011, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the big mike

Thx for the response

Although I like the idea of pimping my bike with a full exhaust, I believe that this won't be the only mod I'll have to make, no? The problem is that I don't have the time nor the means (read: money) for those additional mods.

I do like the solution Alex.s is offering. I just don't understand the electrolysis part, is this something you can do at home? if not, how much will that cost me? All I want is that rusty look gone.

EDIT: Would it be bad just to put the high temp paint on just like that? it probably is, but I can always ask

If you can find a container big enough to put your headers into, you can use the electrolysis method.

I wouldn't paint over the rust. They'll most likely just keep rusting underneath the paint.

alex.s · July 11th, 2011, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the big mike

Thx for the response

Although I like the idea of pimping my bike with a full exhaust, I believe that this won't be the only mod I'll have to make, no? The problem is that I don't have the time nor the means (read: money) for those additional mods.

I do like the solution Alex.s is offering. I just don't understand the electrolysis part, is this something you can do at home? if not, how much will that cost me? All I want is that rusty look gone.

EDIT: Would it be bad just to put the high temp paint on just like that? it probably is, but I can always ask

basically you take the headers off, stick them in a big container filled with water and salt, connect the headers to one side of a battery, and connect a wire to the other side of the battery then stick it in the water. after a while it gets the rust off. if you paint over the rust, the paint will simply fall off and continue rusting underneath the paint. search youtube for rust + electrolysis and you should find many tutorials on it, its quick and easy and most of all cheap. a can of high-temp paint will run you about $10

edit: here you go:

Link to original page on YouTube.

i wouldn't recommend using a battery charge you like... it's pretty easy to fry the charger.

p.s. don't have it near an open flame. it produces hydrogen. although it's highly entertaining to light the bubbles on fire

Kevin2109 · July 11th, 2011, 08:25 PM

I have mine for $50, not crashed ever, just changed to an Area P and its now sitting in my closet

the big mike · August 26th, 2011, 03:04 AM

hey guys, I found the cheapest solution possible. I got some of this stuff and started scrubbing for 2.5 hours

Although it's not perfect, I'm very happy with the results

Alex · August 26th, 2011, 10:25 AM

CThunder-blue · August 26th, 2011, 01:01 PM

Just make sure you coat the pipes with something, otherwise, it'll just rust again.

Kurgan · August 27th, 2011, 09:45 AM

Has anybody tried wrapping their exhaust with the high temp wraps?

If it works for cars to lower underhood temperatures, it should work for biked just as well.

choneofakind · August 27th, 2011, 10:33 AM

some people seem to think those make pipes rust faster by trapping in moisture. I have no experience with them, but that's what I've heard

Alex · August 27th, 2011, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurgan

Has anybody tried wrapping their exhaust with the high temp wraps?

Not recommended. These quotes are directly from the owner of Area P:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbryant

There is no measurable difference in power by wrapping the headpipe assembly. Only on the highest horsepower applications can you see a slight difference from an internal and external coating treatment (ie: HPC, Embee, etc.). Otherwise the primary reason it's done, is for external cooling of surrounding components and/or area. We do not recommend wrapping the exhaust. It will void the warranty. The "wrap" does not allow it to cool and dry naturally. As you retain heat and moisture within thin gauge stainless steel, it will become brittle over time and potentially fail.

and

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbryant

Also, please note that we highly recommend that you do not use heat wrap tape on the system. These wraps retain both heat and moisture that will shorten the lifespan of the system by not allowing it to cool down and externally dry out properly. Stainless steel may become brittle over time with header wrap.

alex.s · August 27th, 2011, 03:01 PM

Quote:

i like the o2 sensor on your exhaust. i think it's sexy.

gfloyd2002 · August 27th, 2011, 05:25 PM

Pro polish a good option in Europe, but it isn't sold in the US as far as I can tell. Reading some other forums, Nevr Dull comes up repeatedly as a good option for the US. I've not used it, but just ordered a can ($6) and will let you know. Available at (yuck) just about any cruiser shop I looked at online.

Kurgan · August 27th, 2011, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Not recommended. These quotes are directly from the owner of Area P:

I wasn't really thinking about a power gain, just something to help the bike run cooler, living in Texas and having to put up with 100+ degree days for months on end is not as fun on 2 wheels as it might seem, especially in heavy traffic. The heat coming off the road and the other cars is enough to make you pass out, adding the bike itself as another heat source just makes it even worse.

the big mike · August 28th, 2011, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

i like the o2 sensor on your exhaust. i think it's sexy.

You made me look up o2 sensor and I learned more about fuel injection. thx

By the way, that's stock. In europe we get our bikes with fuel injection

Alex · August 28th, 2011, 09:23 AM

But the heat tape doesn't make the bike (or a car) run cooler. It just protects that localized area of where the wrap is from getting quite as hot. The heat the engine creates remains exactly the same, so the radiated heat to the rider is going to be similar no matter what.

gfloyd2002 · September 10th, 2011, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfloyd2002

Pro polish a good option in Europe, but it isn't sold in the US as far as I can tell. Reading some other forums, Nevr Dull comes up repeatedly as a good option for the US. I've not used it, but just ordered a can ($6) and will let you know. Available at (yuck) just about any cruiser shop I looked at online.

Got my can in yesterday. Worked like a charm when combined with elbow grease. Recommended for rusty pipes.

Skippii · September 10th, 2011, 01:11 PM

Good Lord that looks like a lot of work.
It took me half an hour, tops.

+

the big mike · September 10th, 2011, 01:21 PM

THAT'S CHEATING

Daniel_Malloy · September 10th, 2011, 02:54 PM

When I bought my ninja, I had some rust forming on my can. I just took a piece of aluminum foil, dipped it in water, then rubbed over the rusty areas and my rust came off like a charm. Granted, it was on the polished exhaust can and wasn't nearly as thick as those pictures but it might be worth a try...

Skippii · September 10th, 2011, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the big mike

THAT'S CHEATING

$15 for the angle grinder at HF, $4 for the wire cup. Totally worth it.

The rust on my headers was about as bad as on yours.

headshrink · September 14th, 2011, 05:09 PM

Do we know why it rusted so bad in the first place?

Bols · September 14th, 2011, 05:24 PM

Is there any reason for why exhausts are not painted/coated with something for protection? Heat or anything, or is it just about the cost? I think matte black pipes would look alot better

the big mike · September 15th, 2011, 07:39 AM

It's because of the weather here in Belgium.

Skippii · September 15th, 2011, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bols

Is there any reason for why exhausts are not painted/coated with something for protection? Heat or anything, or is it just about the cost? I think matte black pipes would look alot better

Price. Ceramic coatings are about the only thing that holds up to that temp, and it's pricey.

headshrink · September 15th, 2011, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the big mike

It's because of the weather here in Belgium.

Ah, Belgium. I visited there in the early-mid 80's (before most here were born). Nice trip.

July 11th, 2011, 03:58 AM	#2
scotty ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Scott Location: Carlise Ohio Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): Yahama v star 650 classic Posts: A lot.	Wow, how did they become so rusty?? Buy a new/used header? __________________________________________________

July 11th, 2011, 08:52 AM	#3
NathanUc B-Town Ninja Name: Nathan Location: Bloomington, IN Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Black 2013 Ninja ZX6R ABS Posts: 609 Blog Entries: 3	Mine aren't rusty but they are as hell are ugly and need to be replaced ASAP (dented/cracked). Your best bet is probably a full system exhaust. Can get a full system under $300 with shiny/pretty tubes __________________________________________________ Downgraded to a 2013 636. Previous owner of a 2010 250r --------------------------------- My moto-vlog YouTube channel http://www.youtube.com/bloomingtonninja

July 11th, 2011, 09:30 AM	#5
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	get rid of the rust with electrolysis, clean them, then paint them with high temp paint. problem solved. p.s. rust holes are only a problem if it's actually rusted all the way through the pipe. if this was the case your pipes would be falling apart already. give the rust spots a tap, if your finger goes through, you have holes, if not you don't. __________________________________________________

July 11th, 2011, 11:59 AM	#6
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	I have a pair for sale! __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

July 11th, 2011, 01:24 PM	#10
SpeedDemon ninjette.org member Name: Jon Location: Brampton Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 190	http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78694. Here is a link with another member sell stock pipes for i think like 75 bucks wont find anything cheapper than this other than at a wreckers __________________________________________________ Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly

July 11th, 2011, 01:12 PM	#9
the big mike ninjette.org sage Name: Michael Location: Belgium Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, Fazer8 Posts: 580	Thx for the response Although I like the idea of pimping my bike with a full exhaust, I believe that this won't be the only mod I'll have to make, no? The problem is that I don't have the time nor the means (read: money) for those additional mods. I do like the solution Alex.s is offering. I just don't understand the electrolysis part, is this something you can do at home? if not, how much will that cost me? All I want is that rusty look gone. EDIT: Would it be bad just to put the high temp paint on just like that? it probably is, but I can always ask

July 11th, 2011, 08:25 PM	#13
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	I have mine for $50, not crashed ever, just changed to an Area P and its now sitting in my closet __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

August 26th, 2011, 10:25 AM	#15
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August 26th, 2011, 01:01 PM	#16
CThunder-blue ModMy250.com Name: Tri Location: St, Louis Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2005 R6 Posts: A lot.	Just make sure you coat the pipes with something, otherwise, it'll just rust again. __________________________________________________ The www.ModMy250.com guy

August 27th, 2011, 09:45 AM	#17
Kurgan ninjette.org guru Name: Kurgan Location: Texas Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R Posts: 260	Has anybody tried wrapping their exhaust with the high temp wraps? If it works for cars to lower underhood temperatures, it should work for biked just as well.

August 27th, 2011, 10:33 AM	#18
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	some people seem to think those make pipes rust faster by trapping in moisture. I have no experience with them, but that's what I've heard

August 27th, 2011, 05:25 PM	#21
gfloyd2002 User Title Free Since '12 Name: Floyd Location: Barbados Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 Ninja 250R Special Edition Green Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 13 MOTM - Feb '12	Pro polish a good option in Europe, but it isn't sold in the US as far as I can tell. Reading some other forums, Nevr Dull comes up repeatedly as a good option for the US. I've not used it, but just ordered a can ($6) and will let you know. Available at (yuck) just about any cruiser shop I looked at online. __________________________________________________ "Improvement makes straight roads, but the crooked roads without improvement, are roads of genius." — William Blake

August 28th, 2011, 09:23 AM	#24
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	But the heat tape doesn't make the bike (or a car) run cooler. It just protects that localized area of where the wrap is from getting quite as hot. The heat the engine creates remains exactly the same, so the radiated heat to the rider is going to be similar no matter what. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 10th, 2011, 01:11 PM	#26
Skippii Milkshake Drinker Name: Skippii Location: Richmond, Va Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Orange DRZ400-S, 2005 Ninja 250 & Custom Thundercunt Dirt Chopper Posts: A lot.	Good Lord that looks like a lot of work. It took me half an hour, tops. + __________________________________________________ "What a sweetheart."- ninja_sleeper to me

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the big mike ninjette.org sage Name: Michael Location: Belgium Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, Fazer8 Posts: 580	THAT'S CHEATING __________________________________________________ I can not be a true player by playing around.

September 10th, 2011, 02:54 PM	#28
Daniel_Malloy ninjette.org member Name: Aaron Location: Lawton, OK Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 85	When I bought my ninja, I had some rust forming on my can. I just took a piece of aluminum foil, dipped it in water, then rubbed over the rusty areas and my rust came off like a charm. Granted, it was on the polished exhaust can and wasn't nearly as thick as those pictures but it might be worth a try...

September 14th, 2011, 05:09 PM	#30
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Do we know why it rusted so bad in the first place? __________________________________________________ Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned

September 14th, 2011, 05:24 PM	#31
Bols Norwegian dude Name: Ole Location: Norway Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 748 Posts: 120	Is there any reason for why exhausts are not painted/coated with something for protection? Heat or anything, or is it just about the cost? I think matte black pipes would look alot better

September 15th, 2011, 07:39 AM	#32
the big mike ninjette.org sage Name: Michael Location: Belgium Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, Fazer8 Posts: 580	It's because of the weather here in Belgium. __________________________________________________ I can not be a true player by playing around.

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