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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:13 AM   #1
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Venting hot air from the radiator to legs.

Would this be reasonably possible? My only mode of transportation is bike/bus and its getting quite cold where I'm at. I was thinking maybe I could vent some hot air to my knees.

What do you guys think about this?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:21 AM   #2
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What do you guys think about this?
Unless you could place your knees directly behind the radiator, you will not feel but the cold air stream that hits your body directly, after you reach certain speed.

Hot air is going to behave just like when you throw something out through the window of a moving car; it joints the air stream and flies straight back.

The exhaust pipe and the radiator can give you some heat, if you stop the bike and squat downwind for a few minutes; however, your cloth will insulate your body from that heat as much as it does it from the cold.

As Alex explains above, there is electrically heated handle grips, cloth, boots and gloves.

Try to keep the heat in your body wearing insulated over-pants, heavy gloves, newspapers inside your jacket and some protection for your neck (very important because the neck gives away tons of body heat to the air stream).
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its not too bad for short 15-20min rides to just bundle up and use a neck guard.

any longer than that and i would get heated gear, probably vest, gloves, and socks.
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its not too bad for short 15-20min rides to just bundle up and use a neck guard.

any longer than that and i would get heated gear, probably vest, gloves, and socks.
Actually its quite bad and my ride is about 12 minutes long. When I get off the bike my knees feel as if they need to be lubed. I notice this happens whenever my knees get really cold, not to mention my hands and freezing. Maybe I'm a wimp or the cold is significant. I guess heated gear is the solutions :\ got to start making a heated gear fund now.
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Actually its quite bad and my ride is about 12 minutes long. When I get off the bike my knees feel as if they need to be lubed. I notice this happens whenever my knees get really cold, not to mention my hands and freezing. Maybe I'm a wimp or the cold is significant. I guess heated gear is the solutions :\ got to start making a heated gear fund now.
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What pants are you currently wearing? Unless it's jeans, I'm wondering how anyone's knees can get that cold in 12 minutes.
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What pants are you currently wearing? Unless it's jeans, I'm wondering how anyone's knees can get that cold in 12 minutes.
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My guess is because its quite cold? haha that's all I got really. Plus they breathe relatively well. I'm still searching for my thermal's for my legs. All I've found were my shirt thermals.
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dude... you need to get some water proof overpants with a liner.

the sedici ones aint too bad for warmth... but you need to get separate knee pads for protection.

they have thermal leggings at target, and underarmors work ok.


what kind of gloves are you wearing?

might have to invest in some good insulated ones....
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My guess is because its quite cold? haha that's all I got really. Plus they breathe relatively well. I'm still searching for my thermal's for my legs. All I've found were my shirt thermals.
breathing well, means they don't insulate well. you just need different gear for winter riding.

ditch the jeans, lol.
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I live in Texas as well. No idea how cold it is in El Paso but I've never gotten cold with just my regular pair of black jeans. Pants with Synthetic blends in them also help if you are wearing jeans.

Why don't you just buy thermal under wear?

Edit: Also what happened to your creativity guys? There's not even one idea on how to vent hot air to his legs?

Maybe you'd have to find a way to close off the front of your fairings and then install two small fans to blow hot air to your legs?
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The lack of venting from the engine to the knee isn't the problem that needs fixing.

(Yes, you will be cold in those jeans in cold weather regardless of any home-brew hot-air ducting attempts)
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Shove a hose in the exhaust. Then run the end of the hose into your jacket.
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After I couldn't feel my fingers on the ride home yesterday, and had to stop at a Burger King to use the bathroom's hand dryers to get the feeling and PAIN back.... I spent way too much time looking up heated gear.

A lot of forums have members which have done their own DIY heated gear: http://www.nashvilleriders.com/index...on-fire-part-1

I hope to do the same, but usually my body is set, it was just my hands. My gloves are summer and don't protect against wind AT ALL... so that's a problem too
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i got http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...iece-Suit.aspx and i can tell u its prly the best thing ive bought for my bike. ive driven 70mph in 30 degree temps and not even come close to getting cold with just that over my regular work clothes. i had thought of getting heated gear but the reviews on this one piece were good, and i am not disappointed in it
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Just rode to work this morning, it was 33.8F degrees when I left. I used one of those little disposable hand warmer pouches on my right hand (between my riding glove and outerglove) and that seemed to really help. The rest of me was fine.

I just ordered some handlebar mitts on amazon, and while they are for ATVs, one of the reviewers said it worked great on his Ninja, so for $13 it's worth a shot.
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After I couldn't feel my fingers on the ride home yesterday, and had to stop at a Burger King to use the bathroom's hand dryers to get the feeling and PAIN back.... I spent way too much time looking up heated gear.

A lot of forums have members which have done their own DIY heated gear: http://www.nashvilleriders.com/index...on-fire-part-1

I hope to do the same, but usually my body is set, it was just my hands. My gloves are summer and don't protect against wind AT ALL... so that's a problem too
just get some insulated gloves for around $50 olympia and teknic ones i have do a pretty good job.
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insulated gloves work well at low speeds, but get moving and you're going to want more.

hot grips makes some nice heated hand grips for our bikes, and just handlebars in general. I've been thinking of picking up a pair. My am commute at 29 degrees got a little chilly on my fingers after about 20 minutes.
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insulated gloves work well at low speeds, but get moving and you're going to want more.

hot grips makes some nice heated hand grips for our bikes, and just handlebars in general. I've been thinking of picking up a pair. My am commute at 29 degrees got a little chilly on my fingers after about 20 minutes.
I've read a lot that they will help keep your palm warm, but back of hand and fingertips might still get cold.

I had the heat pouch thing in my glove in my palm, and that probably behaves the same way. My palm was HOT (even with it outside of the leather riding glove), and fingers were still cold but not as bad as what they were without the heatpack.

I was also on the road for maybe 45 minutes or more, with majority of it at 65-75mph, so a lot of wind.
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If you are on a budget, just get yourself a set of insulated Dickies coveralls from Walmart for about $70. They will hold up fine for you relatively short yet cold ride and you can be fully dressed/geared underneath.
The Duck Insulated Coveralls are water repellent, have double knees and zip up both legs and down to the waist for easy on/off.
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dude... you need to get some water proof overpants with a liner.

the sedici ones aint too bad for warmth... but you need to get separate knee pads for protection.

they have thermal leggings at target, and underarmors work ok.


what kind of gloves are you wearing?

might have to invest in some good insulated ones....
Some icon summer gloves. I know all this but I'm too poor to afford any of these things at the moment. At the least it will take me a month to be able to make my first purchase so until then I'm trying to improvise. Today I used some cowhide work gloves over the bike gloves and they worked exceptionally well. If I had the silk liners on top of that I think I would have been set but 3 gloves? Haha! I'd much prefer some winter gloves.

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breathing well, means they don't insulate well. you just need different gear for winter riding.

ditch the jeans, lol.
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That sounds like a great idea! I remember last winter I would always put my hands near the exhaust and rev the engine at lights.

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Sounds very nice, I saw a thread about making winter wind screens, thinking about doing that too with plexi glass. Maybe go as far to make a big ol' bubble like the 100mpg ninjettes.

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i got http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...iece-Suit.aspx and i can tell u its prly the best thing ive bought for my bike. ive driven 70mph in 30 degree temps and not even come close to getting cold with just that over my regular work clothes. i had thought of getting heated gear but the reviews on this one piece were good, and i am not disappointed in it
Actually that looks great! No fiddling with tons of winter gear, take care of it all with one thing. Won't even need to make a windshield!

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Just rode to work this morning, it was 33.8F degrees when I left. I used one of those little disposable hand warmer pouches on my right hand (between my riding glove and outerglove) and that seemed to really help. The rest of me was fine.

I just ordered some handlebar mitts on amazon, and while they are for ATVs, one of the reviewers said it worked great on his Ninja, so for $13 it's worth a shot.
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If you are on a budget, just get yourself a set of insulated Dickies coveralls from Walmart for about $70. They will hold up fine for you relatively short yet cold ride and you can be fully dressed/geared underneath.
The Duck Insulated Coveralls are water repellent, have double knees and zip up both legs and down to the waist for easy on/off.
Sounds good. Been wanting some of those to look like a mechanic or something of the sort. Got to wait ofc.
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adan trust me on that one peice suit its on sale today for $160 and it keeps you soooo warm and i just wear that over my work clothes takes me like 5 min. to get rdy to ride now. used to i had to put on like 5 layers plus 2 jakets and i still got colder than i do with that one piece, plus it is water proof. you wont be disappointed if you buy it, i love mine to death
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Overpants. Anything that will block the wind will keep your legs warmer. And I wear fleece pajama pants underneath sometimes, as well as a fleece jacket. It doesn't stay wet if you sweat, but it's good insulation. Obviously it's worthless for any kind of protection.
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adan trust me on that one peice suit its on sale today for $160 and it keeps you soooo warm and i just wear that over my work clothes takes me like 5 min. to get rdy to ride now. used to i had to put on like 5 layers plus 2 jakets and i still got colder than i do with that one piece, plus it is water proof. you wont be disappointed if you buy it, i love mine to death
This is probably the solution I'm going to go with. Sadly though due to my financial conditions I probably won't be able to use the suit until next winter. Luckily though I found my thermal pants and a buddy (shop owner) gave me some winter gloves to pay for when I get the money ^_^

Still cold though, just have leg problems now which aren't so bad with the thermals.
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One thing I'm surprised no one has mentioned (or at least not directly) is to wear a rain suit over your regular gear. Rain suit or just a rain jacket and rain pants. Unless you have a specifically waterproof winter jacket, mos of the jackets I wear do a great job of insulating, but a terrible job of keeping in heat once you're on the move. Rain gear typically helps me through 10 more degrees of cold weather. Layer underneath and the only problem is my toes and my fingers! Heated grips are nice, but as mentioned, it still leaves the majority of your hands cold.

I also find that tucking your shirt in if you're wearing a sport cut jacket helps me a good deal as well.
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