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Old June 30th, 2013, 05:06 AM   #1
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Huge Helmet Discounts

Just came across this while looking for gear. Sport Bike Track Gear is having a huge helmet close out. Scorpion, Speed and Strength, Icon, Bell, AGV, Arai.
Scorpion EXO-1000 $250 off -was $349.95 now $99.95
Icon Airfare was $330.00 now $149.95
Bell Star was $630.00 now $249
Arai - running about $200 off

Hope this helps someone out.

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com...rt=1&total=110

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Old June 30th, 2013, 06:18 AM   #2
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seems like practically every good deal is sold out.....
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Old June 30th, 2013, 09:56 AM   #3
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Thanks for the link. Probly help someone, sadly not I
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Old June 30th, 2013, 01:58 PM   #4
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Thanks for the link. Probly help someone, sadly not I
nop me neither

Always makes me mad when i see closeouts and the only thing they have at the beginning of the closeouts are small/xsmall..like wtf!
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Old June 30th, 2013, 02:54 PM   #5
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nop me neither

Always makes me mad when i see closeouts and the only thing they have at the beginning of the closeouts are small/xsmall..like wtf!
Or when 3/4 of the links I open up aren't available in ANY sizes... why bother leaving it up if you're closing out the product, and it's already done? (I know, I know... bait and switch... still annoying)

Thanks for the heads up anyway!
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Old June 30th, 2013, 04:03 PM   #6
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some of these are older models. Like the bell star for example, The ones on closeout are 2010 models.

does the age affect how durable these helmets are?
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Old June 30th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #7
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Ummm…. you close out a product when you've got a few left that aren't moving.

Expecting a nice selection kind of misses the whole point of deep discounts from the retailer's POV. If the helmet is desirable it will sell at a higher price.

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Old June 30th, 2013, 06:38 PM   #8
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Ummm…. you close out a product when you've got a few left that aren't moving.

Expecting a nice selection kind of misses the whole point of deep discounts from the retailer's POV. If the helmet is desirable it will sell at a higher price.

Snooze and lose.
Wut he said
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Old June 30th, 2013, 06:38 PM   #9
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Another thing to keep in mind with clearance helmets:

Typically helmets go on clearance towards the end of their shelf lives. That's right, helmets have a life-span of use, and the foam degrades after time. From my reading in 'Motorcyclist' magazine, helmets have a shelf life of 7 years, and a wear life of 5 years, with 7 years from the manufacture date being the max time.

For example, say you buy a brand new helmet in 2012 that's been manufactured and inspected in 2008. That's 4 years of shelf time. That means you're safe to wear that helmet for 3 years before you need to replace it.

Now, say you buy a brand new helmet in 2008 that's been manufactured and inspected in 2008. That's 0 years of shelf time. That means you're safe to wear that helmet for 5 years before you need to replace it.

Finally, say you buy a brand new helmet in 2010 that's been manufactured and inspected in 2008. That's 2 years of shelf time. That means you're safe to wear that helmet for 5 years before you need to replace it.

Again, 5 years of wearing, 7 years of shelf storage, or 7 years total, whichever comes first. Make sure to check the date on the sticker inside your helmet when you buy it and make a note of when to replace your helmet.
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Old June 30th, 2013, 07:29 PM   #11
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Old June 30th, 2013, 08:27 PM   #12
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Fantastic if you wear a size XXL
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Old July 1st, 2013, 06:28 AM   #13
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Fantastic if you wear a size XXL
You musta looked at the white and good bell I looked at, sweet helmet.
I was in fact helped by this... Got the scary clown scorpion!!!
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Helmet foam degrades when not in use? I don't buy it. I understand that is true while it is being used. Body oils, elements, cleaning chemicals - they will all break down resins and whatnot. When it isn't being used the helmet isn't encountering anything to degrade it. MAYBE the resins will harden a bit? Doubftul though.

As for Motorcyclist magazine condemning old helmets - Read this. A journalist got fired for disagreeing with Snell standards because it was going to cost the magazine advertizing money from Shoei and Arai. That's right, if the helmet makers don't like what you publish, you lose money. I would bet you anything that their helmet "sponsors" had some say in that article.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 08:08 AM   #15
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Buy it or not.... Some track day/race orgs WILL tech your helmet as well as your bike. If you lid is older than 5yrs and you don't have a newer one with you, your day is over before you start.

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I still like and bought the clown helmet... Woulda bought it if it was 9 years old, just paid less. As long as the insides aren't hard as a rock ill wear it. Ask me how I know the foam gets hard as a rock in old helmets.
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Helmet foam degrades when not in use? I don't buy it. I understand that is true while it is being used. Body oils, elements, cleaning chemicals - they will all break down resins and whatnot. When it isn't being used the helmet isn't encountering anything to degrade it. MAYBE the resins will harden a bit? Doubftul though.
Look at it this way:

wood rots.
steel rusts.
silver tarnishes.
rubber dries and cracks.
plastic gets brittle.
Even diamonds have a half life (very very long time, but still...).

Why would foam be any different?

My post was just a PSA to remind people that helmets age and we should all be aware of how old our helmet is. 5 years of use, or 7 years total of combined shelf/wear time is a good rule of thumb. Whether you believe that foam ages or not, it's still a good idea to wear a current helmet.

Additionally, in your attempt to discredit my info source (which was a very good link, thank you for the insight. I had not considered potential bias) you brought up another good point. Safety standards change as more and more research is done. Typically, helmets go on sale for large discounts when they are not sold and are just taking up space. All concerns about the foam aside, this means that when you buy a helmet at a steep discount, you're likely buying an older helmet that has not been built to the most current safety standards. So even if there was bias from helmet companies when Motorcyclist suggested the 5-7 rule based on aging foam, it doesn't matter; in the 5-7 year lifespan of a helmet, safety standards used to make helmets have changed and it's still time for a new helmet.

In my mind, (bias or no bias) the 5-7 year rule still stands. It is still a good idea to know what year your helmet was tested in so that you know how old the foam is and to what standards the helmet was designed.
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Thanks chOne... I like my head and helmets, I'm sure my helmet supply will remain full, fresh, an healthy. Thanks to your post I have a new reason to help me talk my way into new gear. I get dirty looks with each package or new piece of gear found
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This thread turned into a very thought-provoking one on clearance helmets. I have crashed enough where I've had to replace my helmet regularly anyway , but I never put much thought into shelf life. Good points made here. Thanks for the info!
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I think of helmets like shoes. A pair gets old, replace. Bargain price? Buy!

Sure you may only get 2 years out of a discounted helmet (may have already been sitting on a shelf for 3 years), but at $200-$300, who cares?
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