Anyone have a Scottoiler?

[Ninjette Newsbot]

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[zail]

Just found they do a model for the Fi 08/09 models:

http://www.scottoiler.com/SuitableKi...toiler+vSystem

Does anyone have this or have any views on this for the newgen ninja? Know plenty of people who have them on bigger bikes and my neighbour was praising the one he fitted to his R1 yesterday which is what prompted me to look... Any experiences/ views welcome

[SteveL]

I have a friend with one on his ZZR 1400 claims that on big bikes it lengthens the life of the chain by up to three times.

Steve

[TonyKZ1]

I've got one on my '89 Ninja 250. You don't need a specific one for your bike, as it's pretty much a universal installation. Mount the oil container, run the oil line to the rear wheel, then just one connection to a vacuum line. Actually there's a little more to it than that, but that's the quick version. They also have a model with a electric pump on it now, along side the model I've got. It works good for me, my rear wheel turns easily, my chain stays lubricated and lasts a long time.
Tony

[capt_bugaloo]

Yeah, but geez:

Scottoiler vSystem (Item #: SO-1005)
Add to order £84.95

Shipping is an additional £22. According to xe.com, £107 = $160.53 US.

Seems kind of pricey to me...

[Cali619]

looks like a nifty doohickey. Ive never seen em before, I have to manually lube my chain about every 300 miles or so.

[zail]

Originally Posted by capt_bugaloo

Seems kind of pricey to me...

Lol.. yeah but having spent £90 on tail tidy, £160 on crash protectors, £60 on hugger not to mention bubble screen, exhaust hanger, mirror extenders etc £107 seems a drop in the ocean in a way - esp as it's a practical not a farkle thing!

[Alex]

Originally Posted by zail

esp as it's a practical not a farkle thing!

Farkles can be practical! They just don't help the bike actually do anything faster.

[zail]

Originally Posted by Alex

Farkles can be practical! They just don't help the bike actually do anything faster.

Ah.. thanks for clarifying that Alex!!!!

[Strider]

Originally Posted by capt_bugaloo

Yeah, but geez:

Shipping is an additional £22. According to xe.com, £107 = $160.53 US.

Seems kind of pricey to me...

Actually, it's not too bad if you consider the price of a new chain ...

[ninja man]

i have just fitted a scottoiler very simple to fit , had to put the reservoir under the pillion seat next to tool kit ...has anyone else fitted a scottoiler ..
fantastic bit of kit

[kylerwhite]

Never heard of this till now... seems pretty cool. Any pictures?

[ninja man]

will take pic . dont you have them over there extends chain life and keeps it lubricated up , fit them to all my bikes

[karlosdajackal]

Can't wait to see pics, I want one too. The recent weather/salt combo has hammered my chain even though I'm getting less than 100miles without having to clean and re-lube it.

Do you mind if I ask how much it was and from where you got it? I know they have a basic one and then another with 2 jets? that oils both sides of the chain which seems like what you would want. Did you have to drill any holes?

Thanks in advance

[ninja man]

got my oiler from scottoiler direct . cost me £80ish last year .

[karlosdajackal]

Cool stuff, i found they have ninja 250 install instructions for the old one and the e system on their site, this is the link for install of E on a fuel injected ninja. I think I might pick one up as at the moment every time I think about getting on the bike I think about all that maintenance work.

http://www.scottoiler.com/pdf/Kawasa...h16-9-2009.pdf

It sure would be nice to be able to look after the chain simply by going for a ride more often Its seems a bit pricey but I think its better to be out of pocket a bit and using the bike, then have a few hundred bucks and not use the bike.

[Momaru]

From their product page for the 250

The kit gives a range of approximately 400 - 800 miles between refills of the RMV (Reservoir Metering Valve), depending on the flow setting

Am I reading that right? Seems like you need to fill the reservoir about as often as you'd need to lube the chain anyway, which defeats the whole purpose to me...

Karl, something you might also consider is a product called Corrosion-X, mentioned here
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35280 and in a couple other similar threads. Alex claims it works very well. I know your pain though; the lingering snow and road salt has done bad things to my chain as well.

[ninja man]

on my other bikes i have to fill the reservoir every 6 to 7,000miles, and only need to adjust the chain every 5,000miles ,on my zrx12 the chain has never needed to be adjusted yet and its done 10,000miles ...
plus the chain will last longer ,only need to keep an eye on the sprockets ..

[karlosdajackal]

Originally Posted by Momaru

From their product page for the 250

Am I reading that right? Seems like you need to fill the reservoir about as often as you'd need to lube the chain anyway, which defeats the whole purpose to me...

Karl, something you might also consider is a product called Corrosion-X, mentioned here
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35280 and in a couple other similar threads. Alex claims it works very well. I know your pain though; the lingering snow and road salt has done bad things to my chain as well.

Yea but think about what you have to do every 600miles (every 100miles for me at the moment with the current state of the roads)

Scotoiler - lift rear seat, refill, put seat back on.
Normal - put the bike on rear stands, remove chain guard, get a couple of rags and a toothbrush, clean chain using whatever you like that cost about the same as the replacement oil for the scotoiler, drive a mile to warm up the chain, put on your chain wax, let it dry, clean your tires as you probably got some wax on them, let them dry.

I will check out the corrosion X if its available over here, i noticed cleaning the chain yesterday that I have some surface rust on some nuts, bolts, underside of the chrome exhaust. That sucks when I've been cleaning and drying the bike every week and it still is getting hammered by the elements it put me off riding at the moment.

[Mr.E]

Hey everyone. So some may know, some may not know, I one day aspire to be a motorcycle vlogger, and I'm always watching Vloggs and my favorite Vlogger is M13. If anyones seen his recent videos he just got a new bike mod called a Scottoiler. Its a great tool it seems. It automatically oils your chain and save you time. They claim to max ur chain and sprockets life up to 7 times! Heres the 3 videos he talks about them.

This is where he first talks about it.

Link to original page on YouTube.

This is the installation and what it looks like and some description.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Just last talk. The beggining skips back on purpose. pay no mind.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Its not popular in america, but apparently over in the UK and all like 1 out of 10 bikers have one. It seems great. Once I get a bike you can bet ima get this for one of my first mods. I believe in the second vid he actually posts a link in the discription to the scottoiler site.

[Cazper]

I've heard of this product... here is my comment or concern with it. You are constantly putting oil on the chain which is then flinging it all over the rim and tire... does this not sound somewhat dangerous or at least messy to anyone else? I know after I cleaned and lubed my chain I was cleaning up the "flingage" for days... I couldn't imagine always having chain lube all over the rear of the bike.

[WOTurtle]

Originally Posted by Cazper

I've heard of this product... here is my comment or concern with it. You are constantly putting oil on the chain which is then flinging it all over the rim and tire... does this not sound somewhat dangerous or at least messy to anyone else? I know after I cleaned and lubed my chain I was cleaning up the "flingage" for days... I couldn't imagine always having chain lube all over the rear of the bike.

x2

[CC Cowboy]

I watched the first minute of the first video.

Where in Florida is that? There are tons of bikes and scooters?

[kevinlo423]

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I watched the first minute of the first video.

Where in Florida is that? There are tons of bikes and scooters?

that's not in Florida. It's in Taiwan actually..where I'm from but I live in Seattle

[Cazper]

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I watched the first minute of the first video.

Where in Florida is that? There are tons of bikes and scooters?

Not Florida... try Taiwan

lol...Kevin and I posted at the same time... what a coincidence

[rockNroll]

Automatic chain lube? When you're down there lubing up your chain you're also down there eyeballing stuff, perhaps finding problems that need addressing/adjusting?

[Green Streak]

I have never seen one before this, but I found this on a busa site I was reading. They claim no mess when you have it set correctly. They also mention ramping it up during the rain. Looking at the site, they put the drip tube on the lower edge of the sprocket, I imagine that is so that any that does fling off will be flung backwards. Looks pretty good to me. The vacuum is cheaper at around $130. They claim up to 7x the chain/sprocket life, than without it. But that probably means if you never lube your chain you would get 7x, but if you do, who knows. But even 2x or 3x chain/sprocket life would pay for itself relatively quickly.

http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/genera...cottoiler.html

[Mr.E]

Originally Posted by Green Streak

I have never seen one before this, but I found this on a busa site I was reading. They claim no mess when you have it set correctly. They also mention ramping it up during the rain. Looking at the site, they put the drip tube on the lower edge of the sprocket, I imagine that is so that any that does fling off will be flung backwards. Looks pretty good to me. The vacuum is cheaper at around $130. They claim up to 7x the life without it. But that probably means if you never lube your chain you would get 7x, but if you do, who knows. But even 2x or 3x would pay for itself relatively quickly.

http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/genera...cottoiler.html

It actually has to have great quality if 1 out of 10 bikers in the Uk have one. Im sure if it were a mess people wouldnt even bother. If you watch the 2nd video its a better explaination and it shows the device set up and what not.

[kkim]

buy one and let us know how it works for you.

If you travel great distances at a time, I can maybe see a benefit of having one, but I've heard they are messy as well and really, what do you gain over cleaning and lubing the chain yourself? If you are like most of us that use the bike for less than 400 miles per ride, I would just clean and lube the chain according to the maintenance interval, which is to lube it every 400 miles.

[ztrack157]

I can imagine someone bringing a bike to the track for a track day and forgetting not to disconnect it.

[mrlmd]

That thing is what some used to call "technology in search of a disease". Does it really need to exist? Does it serve any irreplaceable or useful purpose? Is it worth the expense?
Dupont Teflon Spray Lube. Much better and cleaner and cheaper by a long shot.

[Green Streak]

Originally Posted by kkim

buy one and let us know how it works for you.

I am going to buy the vacuum style and see how it goes.

Originally Posted by kkim

If you travel great distances at a time, I can maybe see a benefit of having one, but I've heard they are messy as well and really, what do you gain over cleaning and lubing the chain yourself? If you are like most of us that use the bike for less than 400 miles per ride, I would just clean and lube the chain according to the maintenance interval, which is to lube it every 400 miles.

I read on their site that they don't use the sticky compounds like the chain lube that I use now. Talk about a mess... I live on a sandy, dirt road and the sand just sticks all over the chain. If this keeps me from having to spray off my chain after every ride it will be worth it for me.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by Green Streak

I read on their site that they don't use the sticky compounds like the chain lube that I use now. Talk about a mess... I live on a sandy, dirt road and the sand just sticks all over the chain. If this keeps me from having to spray off my chain after every ride it will be worth it for me.

lol... change chain lubes?

have you tried the stuff suggested by mrlmd? it works great and does not have a sticky residue like your normal petroleum based lubes.

[CC Cowboy]

So Taiwan is near Seattle? They have a lot of bikes there. It looks like a nice place. They must have a big Chinatown, looks like chinese writing on the road.

[NickH]

I wonder if the yellow bike knows what his plate means...

Nick

[Mr.E]

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

So Taiwan is near Seattle? They have a lot of bikes there. It looks like a nice place. They must have a big Chinatown, looks like chinese writing on the road.

Taiwan is near... china... Its an island.

[Green Streak]

Originally Posted by kkim

lol... change chain lubes?

have you tried the stuff suggested by mrlmd? it works great and does not have a sticky residue like your normal petroleum based lubes.

Thanks kkim. I searched and found what mrlmd was talking about (Dupont Teflon Spray Lube). There is a review of it here... (for those like myself that weren't aware of it)

http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motor...chain-lube.htm

I already use a wax lube but this one looks better. I'll give it a shot first. If that works without attracting all the sand, then I won't need to spend my $130 on this.

[kevinlo423]

Originally Posted by Mr.E

Taiwan is near... china... Its an island.

+1

it's on the other side of north america. I'm just in Seattle for university

[mrlmd]

No sand or anything sticks to that Dupont Teflon Lube or to the chain. There is no mess. Clean your chain of all that oily stuff you have on it, then just spray it on every once in a while per your usual routine. It takes only maybe a minute and it works great. No followup cleanups with kerosene and other stuff later. Just spray it again.
You can get it at Lowe's, Home Depot, Walmart, just about any hardware store, in a blue spray can, with a straw to more closely direct the spray or liquid that comes out.

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by kevinlo423

+1

it's on the other side of north america. I'm just in Seattle for university

Which side is the other side? If you are in Seattle the other side would be New York? There is an island there but it's called Long Island not Taiwan!