gear shifting

cuggi5 · August 10th, 2020, 04:12 PM

ive had this bike for almost a month now(first one). when i got it...it had about 9200 miles. now its at 10100. ive gotten alot better at shifting but lately it seems like going from first to second theres an issue 3/5 times. its gotten to the point where theres a prettt audible clunk..and most the time the bike jolts forward when goin from 1st to 2nd gear. and then from 2-3 it gives a slight jolt. only time it seems to not do this now is at high speeds and higher gears. i wanted to just think it was me and my inexperience with shifting but it didnt even do this when i wasnt all that good at shifting. im getting worried bcuz the jolting forward almost threw me off the bike once when just pulling off from a stop sign..and then again when actually moving. what causes this?

CC Cowboy · August 10th, 2020, 04:24 PM

Does your clutch need adjusting?

cuggi5 · August 10th, 2020, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Does your clutch need adjusting?

ive got no clue lol. im really new to riding. is that a common solution to this issue?

Triple Jim · August 10th, 2020, 05:15 PM

Something is very wrong. As CC Cowboy suggested, it seems like you're not getting your clutch disengaged before you shift. One possibility is that the cable is far out of adjustment and when you pull the lever to the bar, it's not disengaging (uncoupling the engine from the transmission).

Putting the transmission into gear when it's behaving like that could damage it.

Here's a page that should be helpful. In particular you can look at how to adjust the clutch cable, but there's a lot of other stuff you might want/need to look at as well.
https://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Clutch_%26_Transmission

The main how-to page is here: https://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Ninja250_Howto

cuggi5 · August 10th, 2020, 05:25 PM

it also seems like sometimes when ive shifted to 2nd gear...it falls back into neutral...i really wanna say its ME maybe trying to shift to fast to where im making a mistake and thats whats causing it all. like, when im riding and i think and try and concentrate on shifting most of the time it doesnt happen. but its really often at this point

Triple Jim · August 10th, 2020, 06:26 PM

If you're idling in neutral and pull the clutch lever to the bar, wait a second or two, and shift into 1st gear, does the bike jerk forward?

cuggi5 · August 15th, 2020, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Jim

If you're idling in neutral and pull the clutch lever to the bar, wait a second or two, and shift into 1st gear, does the bike jerk forward?

nope. from what other riders have told me..this might be the clutch cable needing adjusting.

Triple Jim · August 15th, 2020, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cuggi5

nope. from what other riders have told me..this might be the clutch cable needing adjusting.

Now I'm confused. If the bike goes smoothly into 1st gear without jerking, this is not a sign of needing the cable adjusted.

How far do you then release the lever from being against the bar before the clutch starts engaging and the bike moves forward in 1st?

DannoXYZ · August 15th, 2020, 07:36 PM

What questions are inquiring about is issue with clutch-plates not disengaging fully. Which causes difficulty in shifting because engine is not completely separated from transmission.

Since you say bike doesn't want to lurch forward on its own when you go from neutral to 1st gear at stop, it would appear that your clutch is fully disengaging, therefore no cable-adjustment is required.

To be sure, do Triple Jim's test and determine where along clutch-lever release clutch starts to engage and bike moves forward. 1/4-way released? 1/2-way release? 3/4-way released?

August 10th, 2020, 04:12 PM	#1
cuggi5 ninjette.org newbie Name: donell Location: ithaca Join Date: Jul 2020 Motorcycle(s): 2009 ninja 250r Posts: 8	gear shifting ive had this bike for almost a month now(first one). when i got it...it had about 9200 miles. now its at 10100. ive gotten alot better at shifting but lately it seems like going from first to second theres an issue 3/5 times. its gotten to the point where theres a prettt audible clunk..and most the time the bike jolts forward when goin from 1st to 2nd gear. and then from 2-3 it gives a slight jolt. only time it seems to not do this now is at high speeds and higher gears. i wanted to just think it was me and my inexperience with shifting but it didnt even do this when i wasnt all that good at shifting. im getting worried bcuz the jolting forward almost threw me off the bike once when just pulling off from a stop sign..and then again when actually moving. what causes this?

August 10th, 2020, 04:24 PM	#2
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Does your clutch need adjusting? __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

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August 10th, 2020, 05:15 PM	#4
Triple Jim Guy Who Enjoys Riding Name: Jim Location: North Carolina Join Date: Jul 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '18, Aug '17, Aug '16	Something is very wrong. As CC Cowboy suggested, it seems like you're not getting your clutch disengaged before you shift. One possibility is that the cable is far out of adjustment and when you pull the lever to the bar, it's not disengaging (uncoupling the engine from the transmission). Putting the transmission into gear when it's behaving like that could damage it. Here's a page that should be helpful. In particular you can look at how to adjust the clutch cable, but there's a lot of other stuff you might want/need to look at as well. https://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Clutch_%26_Transmission The main how-to page is here: https://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Ninja250_Howto

August 10th, 2020, 05:25 PM	#5
cuggi5 ninjette.org newbie Name: donell Location: ithaca Join Date: Jul 2020 Motorcycle(s): 2009 ninja 250r Posts: 8	it also seems like sometimes when ive shifted to 2nd gear...it falls back into neutral...i really wanna say its ME maybe trying to shift to fast to where im making a mistake and thats whats causing it all. like, when im riding and i think and try and concentrate on shifting most of the time it doesnt happen. but its really often at this point

August 10th, 2020, 06:26 PM	#6
Triple Jim Guy Who Enjoys Riding Name: Jim Location: North Carolina Join Date: Jul 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '18, Aug '17, Aug '16	If you're idling in neutral and pull the clutch lever to the bar, wait a second or two, and shift into 1st gear, does the bike jerk forward?

August 15th, 2020, 07:36 PM	#9
DannoXYZ ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: AKA JacRyann Location: Mesa, AZ Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17	What questions are inquiring about is issue with clutch-plates not disengaging fully. Which causes difficulty in shifting because engine is not completely separated from transmission. Since you say bike doesn't want to lurch forward on its own when you go from neutral to 1st gear at stop, it would appear that your clutch is fully disengaging, therefore no cable-adjustment is required. To be sure, do Triple Jim's test and determine where along clutch-lever release clutch starts to engage and bike moves forward. 1/4-way released? 1/2-way release? 3/4-way released?